• carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works
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    1 hour ago

    That headline is just irrisponsible. The evidence the NYT dug up was damming enough there’s no need to misrepresent it. The video shows a missile hitting the naval base. Given that the school was probably also hit by the US. The times very helpfully highlights both the naval base and the school in the footage. Not writing a factually incorrect headline for the clicks is not hard here.

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    7 hours ago

    What the fuck is this even about? No seriously, can someone explain it to me? Is he aiming for terrorists and missing? Like why are they bombing little girls

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      32 minutes ago

      Transgression through the ultimate taboo: child sacrifice. They do it in front of our eyes to capture attention, share the karmic responsibility, and cultivate learned helplessness.

    • Raiderkev@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      Because this isn’t one of those “woke wars” like we had in the past. If you kill all the kids, they can’t grow up and fight for Iran. 🦅💪🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      Anyone giving you a confident answer on this is going to be doing so baselessly. The real answer is “we don’t know”. Journalists have been working around the clock just to identify that the missile was even American. That’s the state of information right now, and the unfortunate fact is we’re just going to have to wait for an answer if one ever comes.

      The most you can really know right now is “it didn’t need to happen, and it was the US’ fault regardless.”

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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        I mean both Iran and the U.S. seem to agree it was near a naval base. Most logical conclusion is that they just missed, whether it be from someone thinking they had the coordinates right from outdated information, someone being dumb and picking the wrong side of the compound, or simply the missile not being as accurate as people want to admit.

        At best it was negligence, at worst it was sending a message by intentionally doing it to strike fear.

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      7 hours ago

      I suspect that the intent is to ensure that the war goes on as long as possible by creating circumstances in which the Iranians will never stop fighting. Israel and the US need a constant state of war to protect their administrations and military industries. Doing things like this means that there will be no peace efforts any time soon. That is so obvious that is pretty much has to be the intent here.

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        7 hours ago

        Thank you, this actually helps paint a picture of what’s going on. I see now that the us has become nazi germany. Question is whether I should move to Europe now or after I finish my masters in June. lol

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          If you can get out now do it, although at this point there are few safe havens, Europe is about to get hit hard economically if not worse with escalations from Russia now that the US is fighting a checks notes 6 front global war

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      We do know that the US was targeting the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corp (IRGC), and the school is in an IRGC compound.

      The most likely explanation seems to be that they intended to target an IRGC building, but instead hit the school. Whether that’s an issue with the missile’s guidance system, the plane’s targeting system, outdated maps, or a flaw in whatever process the military is using to select targets, is unknown.

      It’s of course, possible that the US intentionally bombed a little girls school, but it seems somewhat unlikely. Even the most hawkish war mongerers recognize that randomly slaughtering hundreds of school girls is not going to gain support for your war.

      • AlDente@sh.itjust.works
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        The school was in the IRGC compound; however that was 10 years ago.

        According to satellite imagery, the building in which the school was housed was initially walled within the IRGC compound in 2013 but was then walled off by September 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_airstrike (original source was paywalled)

        the school that “had been separated from the military complex and had become a clearly defined civilian institution for more than 10 years”. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab-girls-school-strike-as-israel-us-deny-involvement

        Currently, the most likely explanation was that AI was used to choose targets and it hallucinated the building being a military target based on old data. The strike was not an accidental miss, because it involved a “double-tab” with a second missile used to kill those who came to provide aid after the first hit.

      • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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        Came here to say basically this. I read that it used to be on the compound, but that it was separated out by a wall and made into a school some time ago - long enough that it means (if it’s true) we were using very outdated data, but you can apparently see on Google maps that it used to be part of the compound but now is outside the compound.

        So a charitable interpretation is that we used outdated information to bomb what we thought was a military building. And of course there are less charitable interpretations.

        • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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          7 hours ago

          The US has worlds most advanced satellites and intel. It’s impossible that they didn’t know what they were doing. 100% someone even brought it up and they decided to ignore the person.

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            I mean, we know for a fact that they used Palantir’s system for planning the invasion which is an automated intelligence analysis system.

            That alone makes it entirely possible for them to have information and not know about it, on top of all the other existing ways that information can be compartmentalized, or thorough analysis and double checking can be skipped.

          • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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            It’s impossible that they didn’t know what they were doing.

            It’s absolutely not impossible.

            It’s irresponsible and stupid, but it’s absolutely not impossible. People and systems can be smart, but often they are very very dumb.

            That said, I wouldn’t be shocked if nobody could be bothered to remove it from a target list under the idea of claiming it was an accident or something.

            But do I think it’s impossible the people putting it on the target list didn’t know? Not at all. (But do I think it was likely there wasn’t someone who knew? Also yes)

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      7 hours ago

      Well… You know, Trump has a complicated relationship with little girls.

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      7 hours ago

      If you ask MAGA, “it’s so the Democrats can whine about it.”

      A realistic answer would be that they are taking a leaf out of the IDF’s book and are being cruel just for cruelty’s sake.

    • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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      Well, the actual NYT article has the headline

      U.S. Tomahawk Hit Naval Base Beside Iranian School, Video Shows

      The school appears to be part of the same compound as the naval base. Presumably someone or something thought it was part of that base.

    • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
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      I heard the school was built on a former military base. So could a case of very outdated information.

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        Doesn’t change much does it?

        Whenever I park my car, I usually check if there’s a bunch of innocent schools girls in the way first.

        I’d like to think that bombs are thrown around a little more carefully than how I park my car.

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      We know they want the Iranian people to rise up, overthrow their government, and welcome the US forces as glorious liberators, (IMHO the probabilities are maybe, possibly, no chance), so I wonder if they’re trying to cause as much harm as possible so people will go “if we just overthrow our government, the US will stop hurting us”. It would be psycopathic of the US to think so, but I have seen no evidence to suggest that makes it impossible.

      Of course, now that they’re using “AI” they get to blame that for any targeting “mishaps” that become a liability.

    • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      There are several possible reasons that may not cover 100% regardless.

      1. Out dated target information. The structures might have been something else at sometime but have changed with little to no intel in the region.
      2. For our technical might, we still fuck up a lot. Think of competent your coworkers are, now give them access to heavy ordinance.
      3. It’s intentional. From the attack on the desalination plant they may just be in the process of causing death and misery because they revel in it. Hegseth has said no more “woke wars” whatever that means.
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      One explanation I heard was that it was very close to a naval base and almost all the students were kids of high ranked officers. They killed their kids to send them a message.

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      We don’t know if it was a mistake or not, and we still do not have proof who was the attacker.

      If it was done by mistake: Mistakes can happen easily, especially when the processes are fresh and everything is chaotic. Those mistakes can happen on all levels, from intelligence to the person actually shooting.

      If it was done on purpose: propaganda is a big weapon and there can be multiple motivations doing an attack like that. Non of them include ethical standards, international law or morals. War sucks always.

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        The missile is confirmed by various experts as a Tomahawk Cruise missile. Iran doesn’t have any Tomahawks, so Trump’s claim that the Iranians did it is ridiculous. I guess that leaves the USA and Israel.