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Honestly I wouldnt even be surprised at this point
“We’ve murdered enough people to distract you from the Epstein files for a few months.”
Mission Accomplished
I don’t talk to my friends this casually.
If I said “very complete, pretty much” I’m pretty sure they’d bring me to the hospital for a stroke.
Im sure that happened long ago they just haven’t told anyone.
Someone has had a whinge to him about share prices.
Things are just getting started. He destabilised the region, and Iran doesn’t have any reason to discipline tinge aggression now.
They can destroy a passing ship every few weeks with a $20k drone while the US spends 100s of millions a day just to be present.
Nah man, Putin is Trump’s hero. Watch us take some territory and refuse to give it up through multiple cease fires. Not only did he not stop the war in Ukraine, he turned America into fucking russia. Fucking dumb timeline
They can destroy a passing ship every few weeks with a $20k drone while the US spends 100s of millions a day just to be present.
Well they said the same about the Houthis
The Party said that Oceania had never been in alliance with Eurasia. He, Winston Smith, knew that Oceania had been in alliance with Eurasia as short a time as four years ago. But where did that knowledge exist? Only in his own consciousness, which in any case must soon be annihilated. And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed -if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’ And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. ‘Reality control’, they called it: in Newspeak, ‘doublethink’
The cholesterol in trump declares war on his arteries nearly over…🤞🏽
Something… something… History rhymes. My country is so fucking stupid:
No kidding, my entire life all I’ve seen is republican presidents take us into stupid ass wars.
Why does anybody believe any of these people when they say they want to keep us out of wars?
Did you believe Obama when he said he’d get us out of Iraq/Afghanistan and close Guantanamo Bay? My only sympathy lies is me believing the same shit.
Obama tried to follow the Constitution, and Republicans used every opportunity to disrupt, derail, and corrupt his good faith agenda and policy proposals. I remember distinctly
If a war is started unconstitutionaly, and if an unconstitutional government torture program is started, it can be closed and ended without a construction. Don’t use the “poor 'ole Democrat” excuse to accept wars and torture. Unless it was the Parliamentarian. Well that one rules above all.
You’re doing the false equivalency fallacy by bringing Obama into this though. Sure Democrats and Republicans are both bad, but trying to say they are equally bad isn’t true.
Obama started 5 wars in middle east, dropped more bombs than GWB. I constantly hear that Trump increased drone strikes like 430% his first year the first term. Obama increased them about 1000% compared to GWB. People complain about the Trump deportations. Yet Obama was the Deporter in Chief, and both Obama and Biden deported more immigrants than Trump. People complain about the immigrant detention centers under Trump, and as Trump asked Clinton wisely who built the cages the immigrant children were being put into, it was Obama. During Trumps first term, when he had a State of the Union, the one time Democrats stood up and cheered was when Trump introduced Juan Guaidó. When it comes to wars(especially regime change wars) and immigration, Republicans and Democrats very much agree, and the only way they wouldn’t be equel, is if you consider that Obama deported more and dropped more bombs.
You’re right Obama is as bad as Trump so we should all vote Jill Stein than sniff our own farts like they don’t stink anymore.
LOL, so true. I often laugh about the “tea party” and how it’s not really a thing, and then I’m immediately reminded of how the “Green Party” is not much more of a serious thing, either. Other than being seriously used to monkey-wrench this country and give more power to Republicans…
We won’t be sending in ground troops this time. So there can’t possibly be a quagmire like we had in Iraq or Afghanistan. And Trump promised to money to any ship that gets attacked in the Straight of Hormuz (which I’m more than confident that he’s good for) so trade will pick back up again as soon as the smoke clears.
Honestly, I think he did a heck of a job and I’m excited to see what kind of incredible progress he can achieve for American foreign policy in Cuba next.
I guess the /s is useful when it looks too real ! 😉
Another Russian mobile phone.
Trump promised
Got bad news for you there.
If anyone is wondering, this is sarcasm.
The sad part is half of the US would say the same seriously so you cant really tell if its sarcasm for sure.
Pretty obvious imo. I mean, how would a MAGA find their way intonthe fediverse. Literally impossible, hence satire.
which I’m more than confident that he’s good for
lol
So what did we accomplish?
…What did we go in to accomplish, for that matter?
I’m not talking about distractions, that’s fine to discuss, but as far as I’m aware, I’ve not heard any justification for why we went in and that we’ve reached any objectives.
The new guy elected is somehow even more of a hardliner and I’ve read he definitely wants nukes. So we got iran to commit to nukes probably. Plus, we saw how well America has adapted to drone warfare. So, yay? What’s a couple dozen billion dollars to military industry friends, some combat experience, some dead americans, and destabilizing the world economy?
There is zero economic rationale for nukes, especially when you have sunny place and China as a friend. An easy offramp is to sell any nuclear material to highest bidder, with US invited to bid. Only justification of nuclear energy is scientist control and military purposes. True even in China with reasonable power prices.
The hard line reputation is more about Iran sovereignty absolutism. His father made a mistake to hope for US/Europe reasonableness/raprochement. IRGC resisted Chinese support, for more control over people. New leader doesn’t mean any predictable outcome, but may be open to understanding previous mistakes.
Economic, no, but you’d have to be out of your mind to not see the security rationale for obtaining nuclear weapons if you were Iran.
My point was that nuclear energy is not economic from selling energy perspective. I agree that it was idiotic mistake for Iran to pretend to pursue economic/peaceful nuclear energy. Still, if it can sell enriched uranium at high profit, that is easy path to peace.
A really salient point. What is the purported reason for this war?
As a not-american im really, really sick of this shit. Im on the other side of the world, we have a stable democracy and elected a centre left government.
Yet, fuel prices have jumped, inflation to follow, and yesterday I learned that fuel shortages are a very real possibility.
Additionally theyre talking about deploying our troops to the region, which will probably include my nephew.
While i understand that not all americans are at fault, and some of you have even been doing your best, as a nation I… dislike you immensely.
As a nation, I dislike us immensely as well. :|
Well that’s pretty fucken reasonable since the US is almost by definition not a nation. It’s a civic empire containing a multitude of nations, not too dissimilar to the Roman Empire.
Why, Iran was mere seconds away from having a nuclear bomb!
Well fuck. I was worried it was going to drag out for far too fucking long, but now that the orange turd has said it’s over I’m absolutely certain it’s going to drag out for far too fucking long.
2 weeks till its done, just like healthcare, tax reform, all of his other plans etc.
When you have an iq of 68, everything in your mind is simple.
When everything is for show, you don’t even have to half-ass it. Some bombs were dropped, some folks died, he got to salute coffins for the camera after looking tough. Mission Accomplished, what’s next?
He wouldn’t want that as that means the media going back to the (pedo)files. Time to attack Cuba.
So he has reached all his goals? Or did he forgett what he wanted to do? What is now with the eppstein files?
If his goal was to take a nation on the verge of revolution and cement the dictatorship for another generation, radicalizing thousands, then mission accomplished.
His goal is to foment Iranian terrorist cells to attack on US soil, thus giving the pretext this regime was looking for to institute martial law or cancel midterms all together.
Also his other goal was to do anything Israel wanted so they don’t release all the kompromat of Trump raping children.
If you have no goals, it’s just the lols you make along the way!
I’ve always liked this one…
“We have a plan that I think is going to be fantastic. It’s going to be released fairly soon.”
- Trump discussing his health care plan in 2017
