Meanwhile, Trump’s a free man, goose stepping around in his fucking lift shoes, with 91 Federal charges against him. This country is so backwards.
Kind of makes you want to stop obeying laws, doesn’t it?
I once mentioned to my father that most people are likely felons without realizing it because everyone will have violated a whole slew of laws they are unaware of or that are obscure/unenforced. He, being a conservative, became angry with me.
I can probably come up with a dozen felonies and goodness knows how many misdemeanors I’ve committed in my life, and I’m definitely not a menace to society.
None of these are violent or sexual in nature.
Exactly. The worst thing that most people do as far as common laws are concerned is speeding.
The real bad things that happen that are rarely enforced is spousal and child abuse, religious abuse, abuse from certain authorities, etc. These destroy lives.
Removed by mod
God it feels good knowing we can actually say the solution to the world’s ills out loud here. You’d get banned from Reddit and YouTube for saying the people ruining our planet need to stub their toes.
You say that, and poof, 2 hours later that post is mysteriously “removed”.
Weird i can still see it. Does lemmy save comments on a per instance basis or something?just checked it on a different device, fucking hell. people need to leave .world, its just another reddit and has been since i started browsing lemmy.
Could you tell me the post you’re referencing? I would like to investigate this further for you.
It was removed here. I can only guess.
!benjamingetthemusket@lemmy.cafe
Feel free to say #eattherich rhetoric all you want there. I don’t put up with .world’s blatantly obvious corporate shill shit.
EDIT: From the modlog, here’s the deleted comment.
If by breaking laws you mean setting the financial district on fire with executives still in those soulless highrise pieces of shit than yes, it kinda does. Imagine the world without what we are told to call “elite”.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !benjamingetthemusket@lemmy.cafe
I’m a commoner and I haven’t lobbied any lawmakers, so the law still applies to me
I’m just this here: Eco-Defense
You wouldn’t download a car, a House, two beautiful women or their chi…you know a highrise I mean. You wouldn’t download a highrise or a jet plane or two really hot babes. right?
Is…is this an option? Asking for a casual acquaintance.
I don’t know, have you guys developed the quantum teleportation reflux trackrowave transmission elometer yet? Cuz you’re gonna need at least three of those in a bisiouscope to download anything of value really. And if you’re looking at porn, dude, zoom out until the entire body is in view. It’s a warning you must heed. Otherwise you better figure out how to get rid of body parts if you know what I mean.
Who obeys the stupid laws??
I haven’t set anything on fire yet.
Get out of here troll
I think the voting system has established that you’re the troll.
I still think it’s you. A lot of foreign actors want the U.S. system to collapse. Maybe you’re not, but your earlier comment sure sounded like it. People are downvoting me bcz they misunderstood what my comment was directed at. I actually agree with the sentiment, but ignoring all of our laws outright is a good way to have no government at all.
Go to bed, you have a 12h shift at 6am tommorow.
I do not, I woke up at 8:50 this morning.
/s
Don’t forget he pardoned supreme liar and felon Roger Stone who went on to plotting assassinations.
and biden is out running for president too after promising to legalize and police reform and firing staffers for using cannabis
people seem to still support him too
US elections are fucking insane
like watching clones dressed in different skins begging for votes with whatever empty promises they think and know the populace will eat up
Empty political promises are one thing and par for the course. Literally getting away with high treason on several documented accounts and still being able to run for president is another.
I don’t understand how 40 years of prison for a non-violent crime isn’t considered to be both “cruel” and “unusual”. It is objectively cruel. I certainly hope that it is also unusual. I certainly hope that there aren’t many more like him, imprisoned for decades for what amounts to personal-use levels of pot. 5.5 lbs of pot when you include the stem and roots isn’t that much and certainly sounds like a personal supply to me.
These people are kept in jail to be used in labor. It’s not about being cruel. It’s about making money in the cheapest way possible. Since Alabama is a hellhole with no workforce they turn to modern day slavery.
Oh it’s both. It’s definitely both, the cruelty and the slave labor, which is cruel in and of itself as well.
Yeah, when you read the article you see that the parole board has stopped issuing paroles almost entirely in the last couple of years. This is 100% about manufacturing cheap labor and keeping the oligarchy running smoothly.
It is the most cruel people in the world that hide behind a law book and the pretense of being fair and worse even: past cases.
But since you first have to study for a decade, then kiss ass for a decade or two before even beginning to qualify for ‘JUDGE’ it is not more as normal you will have lost ALL BONDS WITH REGULAR SOCIETY.
If you think 15$+tax+tip is fine for a glass of wine with lunch on a daily basis; you are NOTTTTTTT qualified to speak for the benefit of society : in contrary!
Yeah I think you’re mistaking what a Judges role is. It is merely to uphold the law. The problem in the US is that the role is so politicised that the idea they are legal experts rather than representatives of parties is being lost. They should be representative of society to an extent but ultimately the main qualification is legal experience.
The issue is the law itself and that comes back to the elected politicians in Alabama. It’s a problem of one party rule, and first past the post electoral system plus gerrymandering which means a stagnant political system dominated by one segment of society. The US increasingly looks like a it’s just a large collection of failed democracies.
You don’t specifically need representative judges. You need electoral reform so you have an actual representative democracy, and everything else comes from that.
Judges are “supposed to be” impartial, not representative. That’s one of our many problems. They shouldn’t be conservative or liberal, they should be judges, but people don’t seem to be capable of impartiality, especially ones with any degree of power. Just like men who claim to want to lead really wish to rule. Those who would judge really just want to decide.
The MAKING of the law favors the establishment. I say use the guillotine first, then new laws. Slave master still a slave master now, only the slaves believe they’re free
I’m stating it’s the WRONG ROLE law should NOT be upheld in the same way for poor and rich. For uneducated and the wise.
IT SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME favoring the poor and weak.
HOWEVER IT FAVORS THE EXACT OPOSITE.
It shouldn’t favor anybody.
If anything, it goes to show why legal systems are plain and simply bad ideas and why people need to have the ultimate authority to handle business on their own again. That way, at least, it’s fair, for every man is provided for by either victory, ingenuity, or death.
Okay, I’m genuinely curious, can you elaborate on what you’re advocating? What time in human history do you think we should return to? Tribalism?
I don’t think there has ever been a period of time where there wasn’t some form of social organization. Humans are naturally social and tend to create social groups with rules and enforcement mechanisms. Even if we were to start with a blank slate where there were no governments, companies, tribes, or social groups, humans would quickly recreate them because we have evolved to make use of social structures. We are stronger as a group than individually and groups only survive by having rules and methods of enforcement.
You’re not genuinely curious or here in good faith, you’re derisive, vindictive and guilty of every moral failing you’re about to accuse me of having for not thinking the way you do.
So you do not get the luxury of a debate with me.
Now I said that legal systems are plain and simply bad ideas, and that sadly is not going to change no matter who does what. It’s just the reality of the situation.
So move on from this conversation like you would have told me to had I wasted your time arguing with you about it.
If I came across as derisive, I didn’t mean to. I was genuinely trying to ask what you meant.
I don’t know how it is possible for me to be vindictive when I don’t know you. I don’t want revenge against you. You’ve done nothing to me.
I wasn’t going to accuse you of any kind of moral failing and am not sure why you took my response as a personal attack on your moral character.
You stated that “legal systems are plain and simply bad ideas” and that “people need to have the ultimate authority to handle business on their own again”. That sounds like you are advocating a return to something that existed in the past where people could act autonomously, without regard for the legal system.
I am responding that I don’t think that people have ever had the “ultimate authority to handle business on their own” and am wondering if you can give an explanation of what you are suggesting. I’m arguing that, when presented with anarchy, humans will always tend to create social structures and legal systems.
That will teach m!
Removed by mod
Wtf. If they were growing five hundred plants, 40 years is too much. It’s fucking pot. People get rich selling that shit legally now. Growers should be released.
Bullshit, reported for spreading false information.
there is no record of any previous arrests or charges for Leon Bud Hotchkiss in Alabama¹²³. He was a first-time offender when he was convicted of marijuana trafficking in 2013². He has maintained a clean institutional record since then².
Fucking trump supporters are the worst, you can’t get anything right.
https://www.al.com/live/2011/10/magnolia_springs_marijuana_house.html
Hotchkiss has a drug history and stated that he had been to federal prison on a drug conspiracy charge. He stated that the conspiracy case was about 20 years ago when he lived in Orange Beach, officials said.
Try to overthrow the government- 18 months. Grow plants- life sentence.
America (for the time being), fuck yeah!
Only 18 months?
…Tempting.
Shit of you succeed the. You don’t have to do any time at all
Leading the insurrection? Priceless.
This stuff just makes my blood boil. Those 3 assholes on the parole board are complete sociopaths. There’s absolutely no justice here.
Someday we’ll learn that these types of positions are only ever occupied by sociopaths, psychopaths, sadists, and those full of hate. Then we’ll realize that the institutions they are part of were designed by the same type of people. Then hopefully finally we’ll realize that every state institution was designed by this same group that believes they know the right way for everything and feel entitled to force their ways on everyone else.
Well, political positions, yes. But there are tons of government employees around the country that are just normal people working at a regulatory agency. The overwhelming majority of them. They’re just doing their job.
At least for now. SCOTUS is very close to changing that.
Right, there are many employees of the state with no power, these positions I’d expect are mostly not staffed by dark tetrad types. The DMV though, pretty sure that’s staffed by mostly sadists.
It’s actually a requirement I think.
In WA during lockdown, they requested compassionate release of someone who was paralyzed on half his body and confined to a chair. The DOC decided that he was a threat to society and needed to be kept in the COVID greenhouse.
That law provides several different levels of trafficking, and Hotchkiss was convicted under the lowest level – having between 2.2 lbs and 100lbs. That weight includes all parts of the plant, root and stem and all.
40 years, jesus fucking CHRIST.
Who, actually, believes society is better off for caging this man??
no one. but a great many people like that it happened
The rich for more slave labor?
yeah and general schadenfreude, racism, hippy-bashing and general reefer madness buffonery.
Many–there are people whose lives REALLY suck and they can’t imagine them being better so they want to make others’ lives worse. This is how a significant portion of the population votes.
An old pot grower’s adage goes something like: if the sentencing minimum is for between 1-99 plants, you might as well grow 99.
People like Bud serve as the real life example for this kind of saying sadly.
This is stupid, why is the lowest charge range so big. 2.2 lb to 100 lb that is a huge range and you’re telling me there is ranges higher than that? He already has life in prison the hell do they do with the higher ranges
And dirt they made sure to water.
usa fucking sucksssss especially the south
shitty country to live in
The United States is a fascist hellhole.
Alabama has an incredible climate for growing outdoor Cannabis, too…
It should literally be everywhere there.
a friend in highschool used to collect all the seeds and scatter them around town. de-seeding was part of the low-grade weed ritual. seeds would explode and blow-up your joints or bowls
Johnny Ganjaseed
Dude should try to overthrow the government and attack some police officers, he’ll be back home in 2 to 5 years
my wife went to high school with a guy that’s in AL prison for the same thing. I forget what his sentence was, but it’s long too. this was a recent conviction. the guy’s been in there for 4 or 5o years now and doesn’t expect to get out any time soon. in high school, his nickname was jesus due to him having long hair and generally being a super nice guy.
some of you read about stories about the cruel injustices of living under conservative rule. i’m directly connected to many instances. i could tell you more horror stories. violence is the only answer i see at this point.
Or, you know, you could vote Democrats into a super majority, and we could legally remove all the insanely corrupt politicians and judges, and do things like federally legalize weed and pardon non violent weed convictions.
Remember come election time who is responsible for this. Just like actions, elections have consequences.
art source : https://www.artstation.com/artwork/g2Z8Ke
Didn’t return your grocery cart? Straight to jail.
“Stray to Yale.”Okay, I actually do agree with this one.
Thats what you get when you dare to do gardening
prison employees would be laid off if only criminals are in prison.
song about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L20t8Dvlg
