“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” he said.

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    Glad Project 2025 is becoming public knowledge, it’s not hyperbole, people really are going to die if Trump is re-elected. That’s not a threat, that’s an acknowledgement of what the GOP plans to do.

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        I remember when “Race war now?” was just an edgy 4chan meme… Better days, used to on the internet when someone was being racist it was a comedy routine mocking the absurdity of racism, nowadays… people actually mean that shit.

        Sadly I remember the “Bugaloo” movement, because everything has to be a joke now, even repeating the Civil War…

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    Like Hitler’s “Krystalnacht”, right?

    JUST like Hitler’s “night of broken-glass”??


    US has a blanket-policy, that they NEVER bargain with terrorists: once you “appease” 1 of them, then the ALL are certain of their terrorism’s “rights”.

    US’s policy is simply to break them.

    Nonfatally if possible, but there’s no moral/ideological problem with killing them.


    The US … I expect only 1/3rd of the US’s population to be left alive, after US Civil War Part2, & the ever-escalating ClimatePunctuation has finished trashing things, these next years…

    When ww3 begins, the ContinuousHammerfall stage of The Great Filter ( 2035-ish ), I expect not 400,000,000 citizens in the US, but 4/3 hundred-million citizens left alive.

    133,000,000-ish.

    Maybe the remnant left alive will understand the stakes, then…

    as I’m “sure” the rest of the world will, by then ( not a chance in hell, iow ).


    Socio-political-pressure NEVER kept humankind honest.

    Not in the old-testament, not in the new-testament, not in the mahabharata, not in the buddhist, or shinto, ar any records.

    IF humankind survives The Great Filter, THEN objectivity is going to be LAW among the survivors, however few they are.

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    And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the first American Devolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be," he said.

    Fixed that for him

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    They forget how many of us gun owning liberals there are. They think they can bully everyone around because they think they own all the guns thus the upper hand. They’re are far too dense to realize they’re entirely wrong. We just don’t make it our entire personality. I don’t feel the need to put my guns on display to prove to people I don’t even know what a MaNlY rUgGeD BaDaSs I am. That’s not why i own them. I very much enjoy the sport and technical knowledge and focus required to hit the target in different situations. I want to be perceived as a loving husband and a kind and honorable man and friend. Those two things are at odds. Or maybe I’m just not insecure about my masculinity.

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      Nobody but my immediate family and close friends and people I go shooting with know I have firearms. And I will keep it that way. I don’t want anyone breaking into my house to steal my guns.

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        If you buy a gun safe (always recommend) cut up the box before you throw it away. Most gun safes have a distinct look to the box and a few even say what they are in the outside.

        Don’t need anyone knowing what’s in my house.

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      I have been staunchly anti-gun personally, but it feels like it’s time to arm myself. The threats are becoming credible.

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        Don’t just “arm yourself”. Learn how to safely handle and use it and practice practice practice. Somewhere there is a Fascist that wants to kill you and they are practicing. So practice yourself.

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        I was anti-gun up until about 3 years ago, but I’ve been training semi-regularly since they began making these types of threats. I also have good reason to believe they’re more than just threats, but actual plans. I would encourage you to start getting familiar with firearms and train sooner than later. A lot of people have a misconception that you can just pick one up, aim, and fire but there’s significantly more to it than that.

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          If I have a choice between an AR-15 and an attack bear, I’m going with the attack bear. Plus, it will enjoy belly scritches on its off hours. If you scritch an AR-15’s belly, it doesn’t kick its leg.

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        I hope you do realize that this means you’ve been wrong all the time. Because the main political argument for gun ownership is such events exactly.

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          No, I haven’t been, and that’s why I said personally. The reason why I never wanted a gun in my house is because of looking at the statistics of who is by far the most likely to get shot by that gun. [Either me or my spouse.]

          I am all for responsible gun ownership and made the personal choice not to get one because the threat of my government has not been a credible threat. That is changing, which is why I am trying to decide to make the personal choice to get one. The increased risk to both myself and my spouse is nearing the tipping point where NOT having one is a greater risk from my government.

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            The reason why I never wanted a gun in my house is because of looking at the statistics of who is by far the most likely to get shot by that gun. [Either me or my spouse.]

            Ah. Same here. Though I can’t get a legal one here anyway, because Russian laws make no difference between ADHD, ASD and schizophrenia for the purpose of getting a permit.

            I misunderstood that “anti-gun personally”, cause not wanting a gun in your own house doesn’t mean being anti-gun. One thing is about whether the choice is on your side or on the government’s, the other is what would you choose.

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              No worries! I know it’s hard to convey those levels of nuance in these conversations, especially with how quick everyone is to jump to one side or the other.

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      They forget how many of us gun owning liberals there are.

      Without an organization and leadership to coordinate action, that’s not particularly useful.

      Movement conservatism is scary because it’s a movement, not just a bunch of nutjobs who all happen to own guns.

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        Neither do they. Their “leadership” scattered before anyone got into the Capital on Jan6th and the pawns scattered when the first one of these died.

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        There is plenty of leadership and coordination, just not for this purpose. People adapt. I hope it may not be necessary for that to happen, but I know plenty of people who are excellent community organizers. All they need is to change what they teach at their outreach classes.

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          People adapt.

          Under a fascist leadership, they adapt by becoming more accommodating to fascists and more allergic to liberal democracy.

          I know plenty of people who are excellent community organizers. All they need is to change what they teach at their outreach classes.

          I agree in theory. But in practice, it seems any kind of militant liberalism gets dismissed as “both sides” or denounced as “being a tankie”.

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            I think people recognize this time around it’s different. Maybe not all people will recognize the importance of resisting, but a lot of my friends are in the groups that will be targeted by conservatives. And I don’t think they will idly stand by.

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        Guerilla warfare is incredibly effective. The only thing that has a chance of overcoming it is coordinated national military might, and even then its a shitshow.

        Seeing as the military is at about a 45/55 liberal/conservative split, with the majority of officers being liberal, they dont even have that on lockdown.

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          Guerilla warfare is incredibly effective.

          Kids love to read about the American Revolution, Vietnam and Afghanistan, or the Cuban Revolt (that finally succeeded). They’re less excited to read about Grenada, Guatamala, the Spanish Republicans, the Hungarian Revolt, the century of Cuban revolutions that failed, the American Confederacy, the Battle of Blair Mountain, the Greek Civil War, the Philippines, or the American Natives.

          Guerrilla Warfare is incredibly bloody affair. Rebels rarely live to see the revolt successfully concluded even when it does succeed. The problem with wars of attrition are that they get a lot of their participants killed.

          Who here actually wants to die for their cause?

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            Who here actually wants to die for their cause?

            When people I know and love are being threatened with violence and death for a cause they aren’t even fighting for? Yeah, I’ll roll those dice.

            All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

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            Gangs die for less. Fred Hampton was going to give them a cause and make them into freedom fighters, and that made the government very very scared.

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                Nah, more like some dead family members from gang violence (I had a dumb but lovable cousin). But you’re right, I can’t really say whether they’re dieing for a cause, I meant it more as “dieing for a lesser cause” than emancipation.

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      Our guns won’t matter… all that will matter will be whose side our military’s guns are on. If they try to oppose the US military they will loose, if they have the US military on their side, they will win.

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    I know it’s meant to be a threat, but he really makes it sound like he’s at our mercy. It will only be bloodless if WE allow it.

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      Typical toxic abusive gaslighting BS, while enabling the violent crazies on his side to boot.

      It is bonkers to me how these people would be tough to accept as the villain in a children’s movie, yet here they are in the real world with millions of grown-ass people supporting them.

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      The important part is to go after him and other people in leadership. They was us to fight the local maga crowd, not them. Fighting the local maga crowd gets us nowhere.

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      It reads as “give up everything and nobody needs to get hurt”. It’s basically a taunt on their holding freedom under duress.

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      Those people scattered hard when one of their’s died on January 6th. None of them really know how bad it gets in countries that actually go through revolutions. Not that we shouldn’t be prepared to protect ourselves, but they have no wherewithal to follow though to the end.

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        Very few do, no matter the “side”, and those with the skills & training to do so all too often eat their own guns after the dust settles. In war, the only victors are the ones pushing pawns. Every single other creature is a victim to it, in one way or another.

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            People never see they’re in the boiling pot. Or the crab bucket. Or the slaughter line. Or the prison-filling shame machine. Or the no-one-else-is-as-special-as-you ritual paint before the holiday sacrifice. Etc.

            I still hold that the “Heroes Work Here” signs all over the Bible belt would be atop guillotines instead if there were any sense salvaging this “nation”. 🙇🏽‍♂️

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        It’s because they’re the go along to get along cowards who end up ignoring the flesh scented ash falling from the concentration camp constructed 15 miles outside of their hometown because admitting they were wrong would mean they accept responsibility for their complicity.

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        Revolutions are easy. You attend some rallies, you put some flags on your truck and you repost some memes on Facebook. If things get really dire, you change your profile picture for like a day or so.

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    lol. They want folks to step aside so they can seize power and then use that power to subjugate the people they’re threatening violence against. But, you know, later it’ll be institutional violence.

    Those fuckers deserve a drink. A Molotov Cocktail.
    Heh. “On the house!”

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    More people should know what’s in Project 2025. It’s a guide to creating a Judge Dredd universe, where the only people living in it will be the Super Rich and the Super F*cking Poor.

    They’re not even trying to hide it.

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    Man are you guys fucked! All that is standing between you and a death cult is a senile old man with one foot in the grave. Yeesh

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      That’s no problem in a constitutional republic. If Biden wins and is senile, we get Jill Biden as pres. If he wins and dies, we get Harris.

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        It’s really not, though. Trump is backed by people even more bloodthirsty and totalitarian than he is.

        Biden is backed by a bunch of enlightened-centrist appeasers whose biggest policy goal is disarming themselves.

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        that doesn’t mean much. If Biden dies, Trump will likely win.

        If Trump died that wouldn’t really change what the Republican party is trying to do.