• Rakonat@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    If sick burns and pointing out logical fallacies are political violence, he’s absolutely right, GOP gets brutalized daily.

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      Don’t forget about how Huckabee was denied her CHEESE PLATTER!

      It was just like the Holocaust, I tell you.

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    I can’t find anything in the article that suggests a reporter called out his lies to his face.

    We need some real journalists covering these ghouls, not stenographers.

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      I hate putting this out there, but my hyper conservative dad when confronted with these and other links here about RvL terrorism…“because conservatives have the conviction and drive to take action!”

      cant. win. JFC

    • AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.world
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      It’s such a flagrant lie, too. I mean, it’s not like it’s in the realm of close, of that it depends on how you interpret the data - there are way more on the right, period.

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        No, see, they are wholesome Christians who worship guns and fear mongering. They love phrases like fuck around and find out, don’t tread on me (or else), and something along the lines of this house is protected by Smith and Wesson. But Lincoln was a Republican killed by Democrats, so they are evil murderers. Please ignore that in today’s politics he would have been a far left woke Democrat killed by a Republican…

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      In reality they aren’t true conservatives. They are a perverted and warped version that was invented to fulfill the MAGA Nazi agenda.

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        I heard a guy with a theory that it’s all kayfabe and it makes so much sense. They know it’s a lie and they believe it because it’s more satisfying than reality.

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            No it is a reference to the fake performative nature of professional wrestling. Juvenile reductive and not really applicable.

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          The only ones I’ve heard using that term were equally nuts Marxist leninist. Not a good term or a good Association unfortunately.

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        Recently was talking to a conservative guy about the rising fascist on the right.

        I wasn’t calling him a fascist, just pointing out that extreme views are brewing on the right and I think that could be a problem.

        He just responded with “but the left are the ones committing all the genocides”. No examples or anything to back that up.

        I honestly didn’t know how to respond. He also supports Israel so… they literally live in a different reality. They probably consume propaganda that constantly tells them the left are this terrible boogeymen.

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          This is a direct results of consolidation of the media. Mass media is all owned by just a few people/groups. Who despite claims otherwise absolutely practice editorialism over what their organizations present and how they present it. It is increasingly less possible to find what passes for mainstream American left getting actual proper representation on corporate media. And actual left-wing left gets zero or negative representation. Which is all by Design. Because it serves those people and groups and not the public as a whole.

          So they realistically do live in an alternate reality. And short of taking them out of that media Echo sphere. There is nothing you individually can do to change or help that. You cannot help those who are not looking to be helped. So unless they come to you with concerns over breaking cognitive dissonance. There is basically little you can do. Other than push back respectfully or not.

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          Doublethink is real!

          Also, I’ll have him know, as a liberal, I rarely even commit one genocide a day…so…

          Note: as an ex-conservative that has been pushed to Vote Blue No Matter Who since trump, I still have a real, if tiny, physical reaction to calling myself a liberal…WHEN THE FK DOES THAT GO AWAY‽

          • violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Just wait until a socialist slips you estrogen 😉 /jk It will take time, lots of it. As long as you’re aware of it (I also feel it when “communism” is mentioned) you’re ok. Please don’t beat yourself up over it, love.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    Um, of course it’s wrong. The DHS (correctly) identified the right wing domestic terrorist threat wayyyyy back under Bush.

    Naturally, the radical right wing freaked right out over this revelation.

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    I want to change the world. (you have to kill people) I want to affect the world. (you have to kill people) I want to make the world a better place…(you have to kill people) GIVE ME MONEY TO KILL PEOPLE!

    The progression here…

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    Common misconception. He was actually saying most political violence is committed by people politically to his left, which I think is undoubtedly true.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    THE FACTS: Roberts’ remarks came in response to questions about comments earlier this month in which he said the country was in the midst of “the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

    Increasingly, he said, many of those responsible for political violence espouse “muddled ideologies” combining a rejection of authority with conservative views, for instance, or supposed anarchists who say they support a strong central government.

    Questions about political violence and its place in American democracy are getting renewed attention following Saturday’s attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, a Republican.

    Democratic U.S. Rep. Gabby Giffords, who was gravely wounded in a 2011 shooting outside an Arizona grocery store, had been threatened and windows of her congressional offices in Tucson knocked out after she voted in favor of President Barack Obama’s healthcare reform.

    Last year, a man with a history of mental illness went to the Fairfax, Virginia, district office of Democratic U.S. Rep. Gerry Connolly, looking to kill him with a baseball bat.

    People typically overstate the violent intentions of those with different ideologies, too, Westwood said, with one party believing the other is far more willing to commit violence to further their political agenda.


    The original article contains 848 words, the summary contains 204 words. Saved 76%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Yes, but that’s not going to change the minds of the people he was talking to.

    As usual, the lie gets halfway around the world, before the truth has got its boots on.

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      Facts

      1: Young people are predominantly left-leaning

      2: Instances of criminal violence decline with age

      3: Police/Military can’t commit criminal violence, because they are our friends. So nothing they do counts.

      Conclusion

      The majority of violence must be committed by The Left. I’m sorry, but facts don’t care about your feelings.

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        A missing /s? I guess pointing out one of many reasons, #3 is blatantly false. There are countless cops who have been charged with crimes that they commited while on duty, same for the malitary.

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        I hear the right are called the right because they’re always right.

        Checkmate atheists!

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      One must really be missing more than few bricks off a wall to buy any of the statistics a right-wing think tank spits out.

      Even the work “think tank” is disingenuous.

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        I think a lot of humanity just has a deep seated need to hear their own opinions repeated by somebody they think is better than them, be it an important man in a tie, a newspaper headline, or even just an influencer on TikTok.

        And once they hear that one opinion, it leaves them wide open to accept pretty much anything that comes out of their mouths.

        The old media, the TV networks, social media… It’s all there to push their own ideas masquerading as your own. Find an opening and shovel it in. I can’t claim immunity to it either. I’m perfectly happy to see “Brexit voters had lower levels of education” as a headline and think “yup, that makes sense”, while for all I know it could be complete bollocks.

        There’s so much shit being thrown at you 24 hours a day, that you can’t even begin to fact check all of it.

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          Sadly true; brains are pattern-matching rationalization engines more than anything else. It’s a pretty simple, but very effective hack once you know the neural paths.

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    So I have very, very long copy-pastas I made from my reddit days detailing that this is pure and utter bullshit. Not just in recent history, but throughout our history. There was a momentary blip where leftist eco terrorism spiked but it was nothing comparable in terms of the homicidal violence of the right at any point in our history.

    For every left-wing act of serious violence, I can name 3 or more from the right.