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NTA. You are under no obligation to help other people cancel some jeweler who’s probably dead now anyway. Enjoy your ring and fuck the haters.
NTA. The jeweler may have had a politically incorrect past, but the times have changed and so have the people. Why not go seek the jeweler and have a frank conversation about their current principles, and then make an informed decision?
Exactly! Those “problematic associations” are just elvish propaganda because the elves don’t agree with the traditional values the jeweller stands for.
Agreed, and given how much of that rift stems from mild music preferences and involuntary erythropoietic porphyria, I no longer subscribe to elven newsletters.
Henry Ford was a literal Nazi and people still buy his cars.
It’s actually worse than that… he influenced them.
His screeds against Jewish people became so well-known at home and abroad that he is the only American whom Adolf Hitler compliments by name in Mein Kampf.
https://www.history.com/news/henry-ford-antisemitism-worker-treatment
Yes, but, if Henry Ford were alive today, would he still be a Naz…
(Yeah alright we both know the answer; I’m not gonna insult our intelligences)
Also, “2019 M”? Your close family friend is over 2000 years old? Is the close family friend Sauron?
Olórin/Gandalf, though he’d be older than that. Someone down thread said a little over 3000
If you go by Gandalf’s age as a Maia in general, he’d be as old as the world. So, roughly 10,000 years, if you don’t account for the fact that the Years of the Lamps and the Years of the Trees were longer than a standard year.
If you go by when he showed up in Middle-Earth as Gandalf the Grey in year 1000 of the Third Age he’d be 2018 at the time he confirms Bilbo’s ring is the One and confronts Frodo about it in year 3018 of the Third Age.
Gandalf The Grey would have been 2019 years old when he was mutually slain by Durin’s Bane after falling from the bridge in Khazad-Dum.
Gandalf The White then first appeared a few months later and would be only two years old at the time he sails west with Frodo, Bilbo, Galadriel, and Elrond.
A couple decades ago, I actually tried to calculate it and came up with somewhere close to 13,000 years, adjusting for the wonky time. There are also somewhat contradictory numbers too (such as when Gandalf says how long he’s been alive).
Being older than 30, I can understand that a being older than 1000 would get confused about their age (especially if the time unit changed since they started counting!)
More importantly, is it time to have a that age gap discourse conversation?
Are there mobile 111 year olds?
It’s not uncommon for some folks to live well past 120, but I hear OP’s uncle is exceptionally spry for an older feller. Almost looks like he hasn’t aged a day in the last 60 years.
Definitely looks well-preserved.
Almost stretched thin.
Like butter over to much bread.
NTA but is your friend correct about the ring?
From your writing style it sounds like you are in middle earth, I know a traveling jeweller in that area that can appraise it for you and if it truly is a problematic ring they can take it.
One does not simply post on AITA.
ESH
Your uncle clearly misappropriated property not belonging to him.
By accepting it as a gift, you are now an accessory to the fact.
Old friend of yours is asking you to participate in destruction of property, doesn’t matter how small or valueless it seems it’s not yours to keep discard or destroy… You should be trying to find the rightful owner and returning said item.
These things while seemingly insignificant hold great value and meaning to their owners. I know this cause I’m a jeweller and I’ve had customers tell me how precious their jewellery can be.
Source: Am a Jeweller.
I’m curious how you can tell it’s stolen, could it not be some ethical issues with slave mining or political issues with the company executives?
ESH? Everyone’s a Shit Head?
In case you don’t actually know and I’m not being whooshed, it means Everyone Sucks Here
Everyone’s Sauron Here
Essentially, yes. As I understand, it stands for Everyone Sucks Here.
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I know this cause I’m a jeweller and I’ve had customers tell me how precious their jewellery can be.
Source: Am a Jeweller.
oh thank god, i was worried you might be a jeweler for a second.
i could’ve sworn frodo was 33
Bilbo was 111, and Frodo was 33 during the birthday party when Bilbo left the Shire.
Only 17 years later, when he’s 50, does Frodo go off on the Quest to destroy the ring.
I’m making my way through the books right now and I haven’t seen the films in ages, but if I recall correctly it’s much less clear in those that there was a time skip. Which yea if I were adapting a book I’d also skip the bit where JRRT says “and then nothing of importance happened for 17 years, apart from the fact Gandalf was travelling to do research about the ring and kinda went missing recently”.
It’s kind of hinted at when Gandalf comes back and asks “Is it secret? Is it safe?” Frodo has to go looking for the ring and clearly hasn’t thought about it in a while.
trueeee but 17 years would certainly not have been my first guess if I was asked “after how long do you kinda stop caring about a small trinket your uncle gave you & don’t actively remember where you put it”
Once you get to a certain age, coming across some object in your household that you recognise but haven’t looked at for decades becomes pretty normal.
as someone with adhd - that age is now, I’m 24
But what if it has this neat trick where you can avoid unwanted visitors without actually having to be rude
ye but i wouldn’t have known about it since i never put it on with an intention to disappear. Only after being told the ring is “special and powerful and stuff” i’d try to use it to do something i can’t normally, otherwise it’s just a trinket. Well, a trinket i’d be oddly attached to, but it’s a gift from my uncle so that attachment wouldn’t be that weird, right?
I have that, it’s called “oh shit I was asleep when you knocked, sorry.”
And it’s that scene from Fellowship that we will get probably another trilogy squeezed out
That’s all very fascinating, and thank you for clarifying that for everything.
But I need you to shut your lying mouth with that 17 years nonsense. I am 33. I am in way 17 years from 50 years old. Shut up. Shut up and stop talking your heinous lies.
You’re 2/3 of the way there! Might as well start rounding up now.
And you know what? You’ll suddenly wake up and wonder where the years went.
Dude I’m 50. Scary shit.
Man, I’m 17 years older than you. It ain’t that different.
You know, other than the aching joints, the gray hairs sprouting, having a strange urge to yell at anyone that steps on your grass (even if you don’t have grass), and a growing certainty that the newest generation are inherently crazy.
But other than that, it’s exactly the same as 33.
Good to hear that the early 40s are not that bad. I’m 31 now and that ensures me I have at least 20 more good years.
Well, no promises. 51 could be the top of the hill everyone says you get over, I dunno yet ;)
No bullshit though, even with the bad things that I went through in my late thirties and early forties, the age part of my forties was awesome. It’s this wonderful balance of being automatically assumed to be a grown ass adult in any given situation until you prove otherwise, but also being allowed to indulge in hobbies without attention.
And, for me, that’s when I hit peak confidence and self awareness.
But, I’m enjoying the hell out of fifty so far. It’s like I hit a half century, and a lot of the bullshit of the world doesn’t bother me as much. Something comes up, and my first thought is “well, after a half century of this kind of bullshit, this is nothing”. It’s like magic lol.
I’m not far behind you, I don’t think the younger generation are crazy at all.
When we were young we wanted shit the Olds considered mad, it was actually worse during the cold War, there were things you couldn’t talk about.
Boomers were epic assholes though, and dumb as fuck, so maybe that biases me, the Youngs just seem adorable in their unbelievable passion for shit that vague barely seems to matter. Everybody needs a hobby.
that part was meant as a joke about old farts always saying the next generation is worse than their own.
Tbh, no single generation is free of assholes, nor is any free of good people. That’s because people are assholes for the most part, and every generation has people that aren’t :)
But, yeah, the amount of energy pumped into very niche things seems to be unusually high for kids currently. It never ceases to make me happy though.
They’re welcome to it, they deserve some passion in life.
I remember caring like hell about the earth, even trying to do things, that was considered about as threatening as the trans movement is to the same people now.
I fucking love millenials, they were so perfectly curious and interested, they learned things. There might have been millennial assholes, but I respected them because they seemed to be assholes because they cared and were idealistic, which is a perfectly reasonable way to be an asshole to me.
I feel the hell out of that.
It’s part of why I married a millennial lol. Which sounds like an old school b movie. The horror! “I MARRIED A MILLENNIAL AND BARELY ESCAPED WITH MY SOUL!”
But yeah, that extra sense of caring, that seems to keep going up, even with all the anxiety and uncertainty the younger set has. They aren’t afraid to help people, to reach out. Not saying everyone, but it’s a lot different than when I was a kid, or a teen, or a young man.
It gives me hope, despite being a cynical old fart.
“My generation will put it right” Land of Confusion, Genesis.
Yeah, right😒
The fuck does that even mean?
I’ve got all of that already. I’m mainly concerned that I’m not even close to a relationship and kids D:
Not everyone has to have them.
That’s true. Trouble is I really, really wanted to be a dad. But c’est la vie.
Don’t give up hope. We had a 1% chance to have a child. My daughter was born when I was 41. So you have plenty of time left!
WHAT!?
i apologise, would this gift make up for my transgression?
🫴💍
It’s a start!
Random thought that I, a fellow 33’er, had yesterday - Sputnik was launched in 1957, 34 years before I was, I’m almost as old as the space age was when I was born
Enjoy!
You were launched into space?
First baby in space yeah, it was a post-Soviet prestige thing
People getting all out of shape about the age of the hobbits whereas Gandalf was created at the beginning of time, which is much older than 2019 years old. That’s likely the age of his current physical manifestation, but his spirit is truly ancient.
The Universe in Middle earth is about 55,000 years old, but that’s stated to be created after creation, so Gandalf was created before that.
Gandalf arrived in Middle Earth in the year 1000 of the Third Age. So he’s been around in that form for about 2000 years since Bilbo’s farewell party took place in the 3001st year of the Third Age. The Fellowship was founded in 3018 so Gandalf is about that old if we’re only counting his time in Middle Earth like you say
Edit: This is in part why people are upset with the Rings of Power show. If this not-Gandalf character ends up being Gandalf, he’ll have arrived in Middle Earth about 3000 years too early. On top of that there are just a lot of other timeline deviations, including the order of the forging of the rings which you would imagine the whole show to be about.
The only way to solve that is to kill his form later. But we are talking about a show that cleaned its ass with the books and then threw them to a dumpster fire.
YTA precious you shouldn’t haves that ring gives it to me and I will dispose of precious properly
