LEBANON, Ohio (WCMH) — Ohio’s Republican candidate for U.S. Senate questioned why a certain group of women would be concerned about abortion during an event in the state.
NBC4 obtained a video recording from a Warren County town hall on Friday, where GOP Senate hopeful Bernie Moreno accused suburban women of being focused solely on their ability to get an abortion.
“You know, the left has a lot of single issue voters,” Moreno said. “Sadly, by the way, there’s a lot of suburban women, a lot of suburban women that are like, ‘Listen, abortion is it. If I can’t have an abortion in this country whenever I want, I will vote for anybody else.’ … OK. It’s a little crazy by the way, but — especially for women that are like past 50 — I’m thinking to myself, ‘I don’t think that’s an issue for you.'”
It’s just projection they know that they’re in base or single issue voters against abortion. The speech is simply a tool to make sure they remember that and they stay on the line.
This is the guy who said women over 50 should not have an opinion. Wow.
Where the fuck does he think the women under fifty fucking came from?
We’ve got 4 daughters. You’d better fucking believe their human rights are important to us. Do they think agency and autonomy are fucking academic issues to women?
It’s not just abortion. Republicans are openly entertaining the idea of jailing women for having miscarriages which is a natural bodily function that happens sometimes.
Imagine if Republicans wanted to lock you up in prison for a bodily function you have no control over, you’d get angry too.
which is a natural bodily function that happens sometimes
Its much more common for women trying to have children than most understand it to be.
“Among 53,479 different women admitted to labor and delivery ward, 43% of women reported having had 1 or more first trimester spontaneous miscarriages” source
So 43%, nearly half of women, that eventually bring a pregnancy to term have experienced at least one just in the first trimester.
Notice that this risk of being jailed only applies to women.
How big is the risk of being jailed? Of all the women having miscarriages every single day, how many are being jailed? And for how many of those is there other circumstances? Do you think the end goal is to jail half of women? Seriously…
Do you think the end goal is to jail half of women? Seriously…
Of course not. The goal appears to be to subjugate women and remove their autonomy. Because only women can be charged with crimes on how they use their reproductive organs in choosing to carry a fetus to term or not, it presents a perfect way to insulate men from any responsibility or consequences of sex.
I don’t believe Conservatives want to punish women legitimately trying to give birth to children, but instead to discourage any woman from attempting to end a pregnancy, they have to have the option to punish any end of pregnancy that doesn’t include delivering a live child. That means that miscarriages (of which they are shockingly common just because of biology) will be used for selective enforcement if they suspect the mother tried to end the pregnancy.
Yeah I suppose it opens the door for investigations in case of miscarriage since some of the methods for abortion can be hard to tell apart from natural miscarriage. And yeah it could be abused or selectively enforced, and that’s the danger of any laws. We are always walking that line.
This is the result of really terrible sex ed. I learned about miscarriages in eighth grade. Scared the hell out of me thinking of a dead body inside me, and I don’t even have a uterus.
Let me tell you, informing kids of all the things that can go wrong with a pregnancy is some damn effective contraception.
Farting declared illegal in Arkansas
Welcome to being black
Miscarriages are insanely common, to the point where you are talking about jailing a majority of women. Do you actually believe that they want to do this? That’s like cartoon-villian level of evil and so extreme that it’s astonishing to me that people find this kind of hysteria so easy to believe. This place blows my mind sometimes with how much of an echo chamber it is.
Yes, I do. And yes, it is evil. It has already started in red states. That’s why we are against it.
How many times has it happened? I would be astonished if it has happened even once without being very obviously abuse of some kind. Something like drinking heavily or doing drugs even though you know you are pregnant.
Also, what would be the motivation to do this? An excuse to lock women up in jail? This is one of the weirdest conspiracy theories that still somehow persists despite a complete lack of rationality.
How many times has it happened?
Well, last month is a good example of a recent one:
She was accused of murder after losing her pregnancy. SC woman now tells her story
“At that point, she said, she didn’t know she was being criminally investigated. Yet three months after her loss, Marsh was charged with murder/homicide by child abuse, law enforcement records show. She spent 22 days at the Orangeburg-Calhoun Regional Detention Center, where she was initially held without bond, facing 20 years to life in prison.”
I would be astonished if it has happened even once without being very obviously abuse of some kind.
This is the group you are defending. Are you astonished now?
She got charged because she left the baby in the toilet, and even then they almost saved it. She was ultimately cleared of blame, but this story is nowhere near being representative of normal miscarriage. My cousin had a late term miscarriage, my mom had late miscarriage with twins, and two of my sister in laws did as well. None of those cases came even close to being treated as anything other than regular, normal (but sad) miscarriage. They had small funerals and buried or cremated the babies in each of those cases.
She got charged because she left the baby in the toilet, and even then they almost saved it.
Get out of here with that “they almost saved it” bull. A full term pregnancy is 40 weeks. She was at 20 weeks as cited in the article. The most premature infant to survive by Guinness World Records for premature for survival of a premature birth is 21 weeks and 1 day. source
She was ultimately cleared of blame, but this story is nowhere near being representative of normal miscarriage. My cousin had a late term miscarriage, my mom had late miscarriage with twins, and two of my sister in laws did as well. None of those cases came even close to being treated as anything other than regular, normal (but sad) miscarriage. They had small funerals and buried or cremated the babies in each of those cases.
I’m sorry your family members experienced those miscarriages. They have no fault in those events. It is just biology at work. However I have to ask, are your family members black and residents of a southern state that has a long history of disproportionately charging people of color with crimes that they let white people off for? If you’re looking for another statistic to back up that statement, of the 44 people put to death by the state of South Carolina since capital punishment was enshrined in law 59% were white, while 39% were black (with 2% Native American), yet blacks make up only 25% of the population of South Carolina. The most recent person put to death by South Carolina was FOUR DAYS AGO…and yes, he was black.
That may be so, but you can’t just get rid of laws because they could be used unjustly. All laws could be used unjustly.
Also last year we legalized abortion here by ballot measure to the constitution. Ohio wants abortion
They’re not entertaining the idea; they’ve already executed it. Women have already been arrested for miscarriages in multiple states.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59214544
They certainly are. Fucking christofascism.
[Moreno said] It’s a little crazy by the way, but — especially for women that are like past 50 — I’m thinking to myself, ‘I don’t think that’s an issue for you.
This is a perfect encapsulation of the conservative mindset. “If X isn’t applying to you, why do you care?” Project that across so many issues and you see the conservative viewpoint:
- “I don’t experience climate change that I’m aware of yet, so there’s no reason to do anything about it”
- “I’m not homosexual, so I don’t care that homosexuals have fewer rights.”
- “I don’t have kids struggling with nutrition, so why do I want any programs that help nutrition for poor kids?”
- “I don’t have a uterus, so don’t care I don’t have control over my own body”
Moreno is essentially saying that empathy should be absent in the conservative mind.
Yep, and they think everyone thinks that way. It’s like when JD Vance said that people who are childless have no investment in the future, as if we have no reason to care about the future of society without kids of our own.
I’m sure he would agree, but he’s also lacking in empathy to the extent that he actually doesn’t personally understand.
The foundation of sociopathy, really.
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And it’s not just abortion, it’s a matter of being able to make a decision about your own body without the Government telling you what you can/can’t do.
the left has a lot of single issue voters
Really, because it’s difficult to find a right-wing voter whose “freedoms” they seem to go bonkers over is guns.
Seriously, next time a right-winger s is shouting about the “freedoms” others are taking away, ask em to name 1 of those freedoms…that isn’t guns.
You know, he’s not wrong, I’m a single issue left voter. As long as a fascist dictator is on the ballot I simply can’t vote for them.
Ah, yes, another old white man who wants to control women. I am so sick of this shit.
Keep talking. Senator brown needs another 6 years
Yes, please keep talking. Keep proudly expressing your platform is to deny women self determination. Good strategy.
People vote against fascism….
“These damned single-issue voters!”
Most people would become a single issue voter if that issue is “would you like to live?”
Bold move to say this in a state where we just put an amendment in about it that passed with 57% of the vote.
But seriously, this guy is an asshole anyway that steals from his employees.
I don’t think he realized that he shouldn’t say the GOP briefing points out loud
Say it louder and prouder please. Maybe it will effect my in laws
