Summary

Project 2025, a manifesto supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation, calls for a ban on pornography, labeling its purveyors as criminals and advocating for strict penalties, including jail time for producers and registered sex offender status for educators distributing it.

The manifesto argues that porn lacks First Amendment protection, framing it as harmful and exploitative.

With a right-leaning Supreme Court, proponents aim to overturn existing protections established in Miller v. California, potentially impacting mainstream media.

Donald Trump has pledged to bring Project 2025 contributors onto his team.

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      Many deeply red states already banned porn a few years back. They voted for Trump again. Conservatives are happy to ban porn.

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    I am not a fan of porn. I find it problematic. But fucking get real, no one’s banning porn. Everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket. These fucking idiots, I hope they all have painful and protracted aneurysms.

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      Everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket.

      One corollary is that it’d probably make a little easier for law enforcement/government agencies to subpoena ISPs or snoop around in phones looking for things that aren’t porn. Realistically probably won’t happen but I bet this is a cop’s wet dream similar to ‘distinct smell of marijuana’. Plausible deniability is big brother’s best friend

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        Indeed. This is the breakdown of individual rights people were referring to.

        I’m sure it will start with some sort of “think of the children.”

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          Yup, hypothetically like the Patriot act. Blow smoke up everyone’s ass saying they only use it within its scope (a rather virtuous scope such as ‘preventing sexual exploitation’), the majority with their suspension of disbelief chanting that mantra ‘if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear’. If you go so far as to point out how it could hypothetically be misused you’re met with everything from ‘take the tinfoil hat off’ to ‘which side are you on’. Or worse.

          But then years later everyone finds out that it was misused so much that even those misusing it can’t determine the extent to which it was misused. Just a bunch of case studies of criminal charges in which it was found to have been misused

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        Again, at the risk of repeating myself: they will not need subpoenas dude. That’s not how fascism works. The corporations will become an arm of the government, to be used at the whim of its sole leader, or they will be eliminated.

        This has happened before.

        People are still talking as if things will just continue as normal, and there will be rule of law that is in any way fair. Please wake up, people.

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      No, you dont get it. They want to do it precisely because everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket, and they can selectively enforce what gets prosecuted. Who wants to bet they go after the gay “porn” first? (And by porn, I mean “picture of two men kissing”)

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        Exactly. This will be just like the “war on drugs” - something to weaponize against groups they don’t like.

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          I don’t think even the war on drugs is a strong enough comparison. I don’t think we have anything in our nation’s history that will compare to the transformation that will occur come January 20.

          The nation will become unrecognizable. This paradigm of, “we need good candidates,” and, “the Democrats need to pander more to the left” shit will cease to exist, because fair elections will cease to exist. Political parties will be declared terrorist organizations, and many people will likely be executed (or at the very least, imprisoned for a very long time, simply for identifying as a Democrat).

          There is no analogy for this. Not in US history at least…

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      Some red states have started requiring showing a government id to access the website. That was before the gop was in control of all branches of the feds. Bucket up you haven’t seen America be great again yet, it’s gonna be wild.

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        Am aware. Yes, shit bouta be wild up in this bitch. I am here for it (if they don’t kill me, anyway).

        But, let’s be real: there’s nothing substantial standing in the way of accessing porn, even in a redneck backwater. Just gotta be more intelligent than a slime mold to defeat that shit.

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          Let me lay it out for you… lol you know what I’m not going to type that out and give anyone “ideas” have a good day, happy gooning.

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          you also had to have a just a single brain cell advantage over slime mold to not vote that fascist shithead back into office.

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      GOP is the party of rules for thee not for me. The leadership are all disgustingly wealthy so they can easily fly their mistresses to another country for abortions, drug fueled sex parties, etc…

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      Pot is illegal, and everyone is high, but a cop could make an example out of anyone any time in an illegal state.

      Same scenario.

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      When will people realize that none of that shit matters anymore. They absolutely will ban it, and they will selectively enforce the ban.

      That’s how fascism works. There’s no, “but the people will be upset”. Yeah no shit that’s the point.

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    The Americans can choose between Vlad’s Russia, CCP China, 1979 Iran and All of the Above. WTF, the fucking Nazis did not ban porn.

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    The porn ban will just be the excuse they use to crack down on VPNs so they can implement a full on Chinese style internet censorship program.

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      Goof luck for the companies depending on VPNs…but hey, Donnie’s going to crash the economy anyway, so why fret.

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    Its already psuedo-banned in some states, not outright, but PornHub and others are blocked in a number of states.

    You could probably take an educated guess as to which states with nearly 100% accuracy.

    It was their trial run, now they want to deploy that nationwide, incrementally chipping away at it.

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      Doesn’t this proposal also make anyone who participates in the production of porn into a criminal?

      Is the first Lady going to get arrested for her involvement in the creation of porn?

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        Historically, you can’t be charged for crimes you committed before the law criminalizing them was passed. However, precedence and fair application of the law have lost all meaning so you could be arrested, but she wouldn’t.

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      First president to have actual nude photos of his wife available.

      If any other president, especially a Democrat, had nudes of their wife it would be a scandal.

      But America is so beholden to these idiots that it doesn’t even matter to anyone.

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        There are lots of things they do that’re scandalous. That’s not one of them. There’s already enough puritanical bullshit fucking up the US. It’s about time some of it were left in the past.

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    I hope they actually do it. This is like the abortion issue, if they actually go through with it people will be like “What?? How could this happen??”

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    If you don’t have access to a good VPN (one based outside of the US) and a separate thumb drive for TailsOS, I suggest getting both and learning how to use them before it becomes a lot more difficult to do so

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    And again, the US totally failed to learn from history. This time, even their own history. Do you actually have history classes in school, or has this been replaced by “American” “football” or “Cheerleading” classes already?

    Hint: I’m talking about 1920 to 1933, when organized crime in the US was thriving like mad due to a similar stupid idea. This time, it won’t be any better. Keywords: Volstead Act and Cullen-Harrison Act

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      My history classes were how heroic the founding fathers were (nothing about how they owned slaves until college), how the civil war was about states rights, how we kicked total ass in WW2 except FDR was kind of a dictator and had too many terms, and how LBJ fucked up Vietnam and it was his fault we lost. They did offer an AP History class and it was a bit more truthful than what I had so far up to that point, but was still subject to the same school board’s oversight.

      It was very “both sides had a point but the rightmost point is the correct one”.

      This was in the 90s and early 2000s in rural Appalachia.

      Once I got to college I was like uhhhh what? It’s crazy to me that the federal government subsidizes and provides education that is going to lead to its own downfall. Maybe we DO need to dismantle the department of Education.

      Holy shit did I just red pill myself?

      Joking of course. These people can’t even govern their own impulses (see Epstein and rampant pedophilia on the right).

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        In high school we had one year of “world” history that went something like this:

        Man “appeared” in Africa

        Sometime later planted corn and stuff

        Egypt, Italy and China had big dynasties and stuff

        Now let’s talk about the important history: Western Europe and more importantly America!!!

        America is awesome - we do cool stuff and we are amazing oh yea the natives … well they were well… uh America is awesome!

        WWII we kicked ass

        Communism is bad

        Vietnam war happened

        Have a great summer kids!

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      It makes me wonder what the rest of the country outside my state is even learning. When I was in high school, it felt like WW2 was the ONLY history being taught in regular history class. I had to take an elective, AP, European history class just to learn something other than the American revolution, the civil war, civil rights movement, women’s sufferage, and WW2.

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        This was consistently for me too. I learned more world history from PC games than I did in school.