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“It’s simple, really. We liked the way things were four years ago,” said Samuel Negron, a Pennsylvania state constable and member of the large Puerto Rican community in the city of Allentown.

Donald Trump achieved a decisive victory over Kamala Harris, capturing key demographics that traditionally supported Democrats. He gained substantial support from white working-class voters, saw a 14-point increase among Latino voters, and performed better than expected with younger voters, especially men.

Economic concerns, particularly inflation, were central to Trump’s appeal, with voters across states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin favoring his promises of lower prices and stricter immigration policies.

Harris struggled to retain support in diverse and working-class areas, as voters blamed Democrats for economic hardships.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    Too many ignorant dumbasses that can’t understand the concept of delayed effects. The upturn in the economy during Trump’s last time in office was a delayed effect of Obama’s administration. The shit we’re in now is because of Trump’s. This shit has happened every single time a Republican has been in office during my life. They fuck everything up, but the effects aren’t seen until they’re gone.

    Outside of the economy: This dumb orange prick was in office during the height of the COVID pandemic and people are still dying from that. If you think it was better 4 years ago, you must have been hiding under a rock.

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      Politicians should be able to communicate effectively, and part of that is knowing your audience. The Democrats failed to reach the working class, it’s that simple.

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      yep, economy is like cold molasses.

      The presidents effect on the economy only really starts to come about in their 3rd and 4th year. the first year or two is just carry over, good or bad, from the previous admin.

      But that takes thinking… and if theres one thing Americans hate more than eachother, its having to hurt themselves by using the weird thinky head hurty meats.

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    We liked the way things were four years ago,

    Apparently I am the one who has been living in an alternative reality for the past eight years.

    All the headlines today are about how the democrats screwed up. What I have not seen discussed is how in the everlivingingfuck any person could possibly vote for Trump. There was nothing good about his presidency. By all measures, he was one of the worst presidents in American history (while Biden was one of the best in modern times).

    We all, myself included, need an education about what the president does and how they can impact kitchen table economics. I mean, I find it hard to grasp that people would vote for Trump just because the cost of bread is up while ignoring the pages of lies, indictments, convictions, rapes, bankruptcies, coup attempts, impeachments, not to mention hate speech. I hope people still don’t have the belief that the US president has any substantial impact on gas prices. The economic efforts of the Biden administration have fixed everything that Trump screwed up.

    I still don’t think people know what inflation is. And while we all have the world’s information in our pockets, no-one cares enough to look it up. Inflation goes up because the demand for goods is higher than the supply - meaning either we were buying too much crap and/or there were environmental variables decreasing supply. Inflation happened because of the government stimulus checks, supply chain issues, and disease spread across livestock - it’s a feature, not a bug. I get that all they care about is their grocery store bill but a basic understanding of economic policy would go a really long way. The Democratic policies, past and proposed, put consumer (and livestock) protections in place to prevent or minimize price gouging and monopolies and supply chain disruptions. The Republicans fight these bills because it would cut profits for corporations. Voting for a Republican is a vote for less regulation - it’s the regulations that keep prices down. Unfortunately, government moves slow AF so a lot of times these regulations don’t have an impact until the next president’s term.

    By all accounts, Trump is going to drain our wallets. I am terrified. I haven’t had a raise in over ten years. I don’t really have a skill set that can transfer well to other companies. I’m a renter with an amazing landlord (relatively cheap rent) but I was hoping to buy a house sometime in my lifetime. What Trump has proposed is going to substantially raise the prices of good and services. The Republican agenda is to strip the country of public services and make them private enterprises - raising the cost of living for everyone. I really don’t know what I’m going to do for the next four years.

    It’s not the faulty of Democrats. It’s the fault of the media and capitalism. It’s the fault of crumbling journalism as people choose hot take emotional rage bait over educating themselves to understand why we are where we are. It’s the fault of the DNC and RNC being too powerful and their fight against reasonable elections such as RCV or STAR voting. It’s the fault of corporations controlling congress. The conspiracy that no one wants to acknowledge is that we’re moving towards a country that is privately owned by a handful of billionaires.

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      The conspiracy that no one wants to acknowledge is that we’re moving towards a country that is privately owned by a handful of billionaires.

      We’re already there. Their prized pig already swindled the uneducated voters, and their “brave opposition” fulfilled their role by constantly seeking failure. The U.S. was sold in 2010. It’s been owned for so long that the masks can start coming off now.

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      The Republican agenda is to strip the country of public services and make them private enterprises

      Feedback from an European country : everything privatised in the last 15 years became more expensive for a worse quality of service. Belgian electricity market, phone, France electricity, etc …

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        thing with the us is no one seems to remember things even a few years back and when you privatize, if done in the proper robber baron way the us does it, you gut the infrastructure value such that early on it can be cheaper as the private sector does not bother to invest into it but run it into the ground and then when its gone to the point they have to repair it the prices skyrocket.

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      The left is desperately trying to hijack the narrative and steer blame away from themselves.

      Like it matters, this is like being proud of wearing subscreen after you launched a nuke on yourself.

      “Why haven’t we ever had a serious left-wing in this country?” “I mean, because obviously the left are absolute fucking morons.”

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      People are tired of corporate stooge politicians. Trump only cares about himself even more than he cares about his donors. This makes him look unique and populist. Folks like Kamala are straightforward and honest about advocating for policies their corporate and dark money pac contributors support

      Edit: Trump actually has them best on telling the quite part out loud

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        The problem I have is that Trump’s entire agenda to make Americans poorer and corporations richer is right out there in the open. He’s going to dismantle the federal agencies, make the states do it themselves, or make them into corporate enterprise. At the same time, he’s increasing the costs of imports from China. There’s no way this ends well for Americans’ wallets.

        Could you tell me one or two of these policies Harris’ contributors support?

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    Possibly their ballots were faked? Could we all get a look see? I just want to make sure my ballot looks exactly as I voted.

    Or maybe Latinos are fucking retarded? Pinches huercos jijos de su reputa Bomba Madre. Como cabrones se les biene a votar por la pinche bolsa de miados Trump??? But I digress.

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    How the fuck can they say it was better 4 years ago. Do they mean right before Covid hit? Right before people lost their jobs and the dumbass politicized an illness? Right before people couldn’t get baby formula? Right before people started fighting for fucking toilet paper? Before people started dying?

    Dumb, dumb motherfuckers. You won’t be at the table, you’re going to be on the table, a table you built, and torn apart with knives you sharpened. You dumb fucks.

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      The trump economy had a decent distance to fall for most people. The whole regime was a clusterfuck, but it was only starting to hit the majority of people in 2019. That was massively overshadowed by the pandemic which many people don’t realize how much worse we handled it than other countries like France and Vietnam. Well now that we just barely touched a soft landing for his fuck ups they’re about to see how bad his economic policies are. We’re gonna get fucked in the ass but unable to afford lube

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      I can’t wait until we get to 2028 so we can talk about how eggs are more expensive than they are now. Oh wait, that only happens when democrats are in office

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      I think Trump bullshits well, then inherited good economy and whatnot from Obama, started canceling all that shit, which Biden then has been trying to fix and now Trump gets it again.

      Policies take time to show and that’s something these people didn’t account for, imo.

      Dumb, dumb motherfuckers.

      Hard agree.

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      Everyone ignores that Trump took a booming economy and turned it into almost a recession on his first term.

      Covid covered it up while he completely fucked up handling it too. He made it far far worse than doing nothing and hiding in a bunker. He actively withheld medical aid and caused countless deaths.

      But somehow he has over 50m supporters instead of a jail cell.

      I honestly don’t know how this country can recover when the right can drown out facts and rewrite history with lies.

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    It’s simple, really. You and your loved ones will be the first to be tossed on buses when they start collecting people. Enjoy 😊

    ^ no I’m not remotely happy about this. But I guess people gotta find out that hard way.

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      No you don’t understand, they’re the good ones who came here legally. Nevermind all the rest.

      No but realistically, it would be logistically impossible to round up eleven million people.

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        No but realistically, it would be logistically impossible to round up eleven million people.

        laughs in Holocaust numbers

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          laughs in Holocaust numbers

          lol immigrants have guns and border employees are not ready to die for trumps ideology.

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            Who says it needs to be government employees?

            I’m sure there’s plenty of militias out there who would be happy to do all this rounding up for Trump, once he gives them a wink and a nod. Wouldn’t even need to pay them.

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              Well citizens and militias would have no legal authority. So yeah. Go to the park, go in nature. Lemmy is really trying hard to out some doom-scape ideals.

              Also: THEY ARE NOT READY TO DIE FOR THIS.

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                Forget about Jan. 6th 2021 already? I don’t recall any legal authority there and yet it still happened.

                Also, we’ve had bounty programs in the past for populations of people.

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                  Yeah, perfect example, 1 person shot and the roaches scattered. Also the Capitol police were there so……

                  Bounty Programs in the past, let’s keep the discussion within the realm of possibility

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            Guns don’t do shit against drones. Enjoy your future hiding from white supremacists doing “human safari” tactics.

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              I’m guessing these guys somehow missed the /c/Ukraine posts of the drones absolutely destroying the exact kind of minivans these people drive? And that’s Ukraine

              They’d be fucked against a modern US military actually hunting them, if they ever left their homes

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    Trump voters are stupid and have poor memories.

    Except for the ones who are just plain evil.

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    The Trump messaging was really pretty brilliant. Despite its simplicity, it was incredibly effective. He asked people if they felt like they were better off today than they were four years ago, a majority said no, and that’s all it took.

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      The Trump messaging was really pretty brilliant.

      THE FUCK?! What the fuck was the “Trump messaging”?!

      THEY’RE EATING THE CATS?!

      Brilliant now. Jesus FUCKING CHRIST.

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        What the fuck was the “Trump messaging”?!

        I already said:

        He asked people if they felt like they were better off today than they were four years ago

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        I’ve seen a lot of people saying this kind of thing. “Trump’s message was simpler, easier to understand”

        The double standard is insane. Harris had actual plans and explained them, meanwhile Trump can’t finish a single cohesive thought. Bonkers. Anyone who listened to Trump speak for more than 60 seconds and still voted for him is braindead and you cannot convince me otherwise.

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          This is it right here. Especially toward the end of the campaign. These ‘uneducated rubes’ had no problem decrying how old and nonsensical Biden was… and there was a lot of feedback from people near the end that Trump sounded like he was ‘trying to lose’. They left his rallies in droves while he droned on after being 3 hours late to start with.

          THIS is the guy you want making decisions with the nuclear football?

          It’s worse than uneducated, it’s worse than disinterested. It sure feels like idiocracy at this point.

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            There are about a million different events I could point to and say “I can’t believe he won after that”, but among them was the 40 minute dance party instead of answering any questions. Imagine Kamala getting away with that.

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    Reading that article is a serious indictment of economic literacy in the United States. People don’t understand what role the president plays in the economy, what causes inflation, or how and why interest rates change. They draw really superficial causal links and don’t think about it after that; it’s fact to them.

    It’s reasons like this education may be the single most critical issue, since we can’t make progress on the climate or anything else if the population is incapable of critical thinking. I hate to say it like this because it feels patronizing, but Jesus fucking Christ.

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        A few weeks ago a poor POC came up to me trying to convince me to vote Trump because “Trump will put money in your pocket”

        I asked him what he meant by that, thinking his reasoning would be tax cuts or inflation. Alas, his reasoning was that he thought the COVID stimulus checks came from Trump’s personal wealth and that him winning the presidency again would mean we would get more.

        It was when I noticed the other people around me agreeing with him that I knew we were doomed. What can man do against such reckless ignorance?

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          Man, people have no memory.

          What was the total payout per-person of the Trump checks? Something like $2000? We only got those because the country was on lockdown, and that’s only like a month’s worth of expenses for me (and I live in a relatively low COL area).

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          You should have vomited all over him like in that stand by me movie, causing everyone else around you to vomit all over everyone else.

          This was unfortunately a missed opportunity for you.

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      Not too mention the “inflation” was entirely fabricated to hurt Joe and the Democrats. All they had to do was ask people what inflation? To ask them how there was record inflation AND record profits with large payouts to CEOs. It’s gross that the rich fabricated this, sold it to the masses, and they ate it up.

      In 2016, I was angry at the decision some made, but understood that no one knew who tRump was, what he stood for, or how he’d govern. In 2024, we knew all of that. It’s clear this is what people want. They won’t ever know how badly they fucked themselves cause they’ll be told who is really to blame and they’re too stupid to get a second opinion.

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    4 years ago…in the height of COVID?

    You know you won’t be given a phone call or sent a new driver’s license or something when we’ve entered idiocracy. You’ll just wake up one day and be in it. And that one day was about two days ago.

    Welcome to Costco, I love you.

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        But he wasn’t the first president along their path of decline, right? He’s the dude that was left with the pending shortage of burrito fixings and finally had to get serious about shit.

        Also maybe Commacho is the archetype for what a democratic nominee will have to devolve into to finally be “heard” by the broken weirdo populous that use politics as a sport and life identity.

        Go read all the headlines about “dems don’t know how to communicate with large parts of America” - that statement doesn’t mean they said “you all” when they should have said “y’all”… It means that J.D. Pritzker has to start wearing a hot dog costume, legally change his name to “$HITcago DOG” go around the country for the next four years holding rallies where he farts the national anthem, gives everyone who attends a FULL SIZE Snickers bar and humps a blow up doll with marge taylor greene’s face taped to it. Along the way, he’ll gently sprinkle in messaging, but all of this will also involve just so many compromised principles in a continuing Overton window shift, where the platform devolves to “don’t be a dick sometimes, asshole”. There’s your bumper sticker.

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    Some immigrants, once they become established in a country, will then seek to stop other immigrants, even of the same ethnicity, culture or ancestry, from doing what they did. They’ll pull up the ladder behind them.

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      Yeah, more confirmation that being a shithead isn’t cultural. It’s an individuals problem that is unfortunately ubiquitous.

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      So a dictatorship, then?

      How about a democracy where you’re only allowed to vote after taking extensive courses on how to vote, see what’s important for you and others, and where you learn to see populism of any sort for what it is?

      While at it, add a requirement that anyone wanting to get votes must first undergo psychopathy testing, that’d be nice

      Obviously also remove the first past the post, winner takes all type democracies