on the bright side we won’t hear anything about it anymore /s

So will ‘The Left’s’ idiocy and gullibility which helped get us here.

Everybody remembers Nader from 2000, we will never forget the left this time around.

Judging by the lack of consequences for the previously observed war crimes, my bet is they’ll prolong the suffering to sate their revenge lust. See if anyone bothers to step in when they erect full blown torture camps.

It’s pretty normal for people not to vote for someone genociding their family. It’s her fault, not the voters. The same way Democrats threw away the votes of the left and Palestinians because they didn’t care if they were being genocided is the same logic the right uses to vote for Trump for the economy despite all the damage he’ll do to women and other minorities. You’re all equally selfish and you don’t have the moral high ground when you’re supporting a genocide and quieting any dissent on it. People tried to say this could lose her the election, but nothing can be the politicians fault, of course, just the voters.

Anyway, turns out it wasn’t the genocide anyway. She lost Michigan because of it probably but it didn’t matter anywhere else, and she lost the election before it was even added. You can add up all the third party votes and it didn’t amount to shit. It was the economy. It always is. People in fucking rural Pennsylvania haven’t been reading hexbear posts or whatever. They just didn’t buy what she was selling.

Or course, if it was the genocide, that just proves what the left was saying all along: she’s got to do better on this issue or she can lose the election, and she’d rather lose than not do a genocide. Turned out she probably would’ve lost either way but still, hopefully the next Democrat candidate will do better, or we can supplant the party with a new one that can run an actual campaign. You can keep doing the bullying thing, but it didn’t work this election, or in 2016, and it won’t work next election either. Stop trying to convince the voters to care about what you want them to care about, and telling them not to care about what you don’t care about, and time to meet them where they are.

thats okay, you just need to look at harris and the dnc for your answers. apparently streams of articles, local representatives speaking up, members of the diplomatic core speaking out and they amazing decided that ‘yes, genocide is the answer to our electoral struggles’

it is definitely baffling in a tight race tossing 25 electoral points in the trash could be construed as a ‘good decision for palestinians.’ but here we are and thats what they did.

Now the world is going to suffer because of their hubris. enjoy. maybe next time tell your candidate to get a backbone to do the right thing and you need to grasp human nature.

go check out democracynow gaza section. maybe you can get some perspective on exactly how kamala/biden and general media have been gaslighting you. Everytime a hamas leader was murdered and harris would say ‘now we can achieve a ceasefire’ she was gaslighting you. a ceasefire with the release of hostages had been agreed to by hamas for months since may. Every time she said she would work towards a ceasefire, she was gaslighting you.

the palestinians were fucked no matter who won.

But harris had the option to potentially win if she was willing to:

1. throw biden under the bus policy wise.
2. commit to upholding american laws w/ respect to isreal.
3. commit to keeping kahn as head of FTC.
4. commit and campaign on actually fighting corporations.

but noooo. its the voters fault for harris being absolutely dog shit both morally and policy wise.

ukraine is gonna get ‘helped’ similarly. putin will have a free pass once the u.s. aid stops. i don’t think the other nato countries or the e.u. can cover that, especially long-term.

yeah shame that. maybe kamala should of thought about that before committing herself to a genocide joe allowed.

Maybe there’s plenty of accountability to go around and you deserve some too.

Also, please tell me which party is my party. I would like to know which political party I am registered with, please. With evidence, of course. Unless you’re trolling a moderator.

Please give me the numbers of these in every swing state along with how they were determined.

The anti-genocide people could’ve all voted and it wouldn’t have flipped a single state outside of Michigan.

See, if you’d said the anti-genocide people who protest voted could’ve all voted for Harris, you might’ve had a point.

But turnout in this election for the Democratic candidate was significantly decreased, and an uncertain number of those were anti-genocide.

Abstaining gave Trump the presidency. Abstaining for what reason varies, but Gaza was clearly an issue for some to stay home.

The outcome of the election doesn’t change the fact that 18% of voters wasted their vote on a Russian plant.

In the end it didn’t matter but it does matter that they knew the election was close and their protest vote could’ve very well been the deciding factor. They decided to make the statement despite the risk of having someone much worse winning. Now, go plead your cause to Trump.

Michigan and Wisconsin, two states representing 25 pts. If you don’t look at the fucking margins in a neck and neck race, yeah you fucking lose. Harris failed to make any changes to policy throughout the campaign despite being underwater the entire fucking time.

This loss is entirely on her and the DNC.

There is no way for you, or anyone, to know how many people abstained from voting over any one issue, 🤡

You misunderstand. I’m blaming everyone who didn’t vote for whatever reason. It was Israel for a large number of them and this story involves that, so I am pointing the finger at them in this case.

But I don’t care why someone didn’t vote. They chose to accept the possibility that they would be helping a fascist, genocidal dictator get into office by doing nothing to oppose him. Whatever reason they had was a bad one.

Israel. What’s your point?

What are you even talking about? Harris is the Vice President. Exactly what do you think her job responsibilities and powers are?

Tell us you don’t know what a VP does without telling us you don’t know what a VP does.

Voters owe themselves something. But instead they decided to crash the economy, end democracy and start more genocides. Because Kamala ran a shitty campaign.

I would bet my left nut that Bibi has ALL the Kompromat on Trump that Pootin has, along with a metric shit ton of his own.

When he got re-elected after all the shit he did I knew it was not gonna end well. When Trump backed him hard during his presidency I knew it was gonna be bad. The left voters stepping aside to allow what’s coming is just insane

I dont dissagree. But for the rest of yall here, the point stands.

Foreign policy is nuanced, multi layered, and gives no shits about your morality. Any of you that boil down the issue to palistine vs israel or race or religion, have no idea whats going on. Two state solutions are just to placate you while wholesale slaughter happens.

This is about power and maintaining it. Always has been. And american, or western dominance in the region as a way to maintain what little peace exists, and not let our adversaries seize that control, is the end sum game.

Im not saying its right. But superpowers and governments do not care about your moral hangups. A hundred thousand dead “someone else” vs a major strategic location means nothing. Appalling, sure, but there is a brutal logic to it.

That’s all under the assumption that Iran didn’t secretly develop nukes, or bought them from Russia or North Korea and just keeps it completely hidden to turn the tides at the last possible second.

Trump wont go against Putin lol