How fucked up is it that the day after the ceo of a major health insurance company was murdered in broad daylight,
The next day another health insurance company said they would no longer limit anesthesia during surgeries.
This makes me realize something, and it’s not what our sponsor or corporate donor wants me to believe.
Yea we feast on their money while they get to serve it up voluntarily to stay clear of the guillotine.
It’s true. The YT link is for music. Here’s the article.
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-5217617/blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-anthem
‘We have to wait for elections to attempt to fix anything’ is just something we’ve been brainwashed to believe.
Enough people deciding they want change immediately makes it happen. Especially when those at the reigns fear immediate backlash.
Elections are theater as long as corporate campaign funding exists.
Elections were the deal. We’d vote for representatives and abide by their decisions rather than, y’know, killing people in the streets to change society.
When elections can’t change society, though. When the deal is broken, it’s back to the old ways.
Yep. The social contract has been destroyed. Time to stop holding up our end of it.
I couldn’t help but notice Blue Cross rescinded its very dangerous policy placing a time limit on anesthesia the day after the murder.
I don’t want a reign of terror, but perhaps just a little bit of terror will have CEOs thinking they could be next when considering especially harmful policies.
Just a light drizzle of terror
In France, during the Nazi occupation in WW2, a few people turned to the Resistance movement which was also a terror operation: they would target military objectives but also conduct assassinations of nazi officials designed to inspire fear in the others and spark support in the population.
You just reminded me of a movie and let’s just say I highly recommend it.
On yet another front, the Greek resistance would kill Nazis. In retaliation, Nazis would kill whole villages. Enraged, more Greeks would join the resistance and kill more Nazis. Net result: Towards the end pretty much every Greek was in the resistance and Greece was the only (IIRC, or at least the first or something) country to free itself from Nazi occupation. (Then they became a dictatorship different story).
And you just reminded me of a movie from a show and let’s just say I recommend both.
Thats okay because its not terror its defense.
Robespierre thought killing tens of thousands of people was defense. History has not been kind to that position.
Good thing there’s only 2066 of them. 2065 now.
Marx once said that proletarians won’t embellish the terror once it’s their turn.
No, it’s terror. It’s just that that isn’t always the negative we’ve tended to think it is.
Typically we’ve been citizens in a country on the “power” side of the dynamic, so using terror like that meant using it on us, and so we learned that it’s bad.
This time we’re on the other side of the power dynamic, so it’s seemingly… Good.
The bad thing being good creates cognitive dissonance.
This is a direct consequence of “the war on terror” attempting to redefine the military strategy of asymmetrical warfare as terrorism and inherently immoral.
To sell the bullshit “war on terror” the easiest way to make the US seem righteous was to degrade the public’s sense of why people violently resist and reduce it to the act of violently resisting an organized traditional military is immoral unless the thing resisting is also a traditional organized military.
I am glad that narrative is breaking down though as the distortion of how and why violent conflicts occur is dangerously blinding to a basic understanding of the world.
Killing people who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time is always wrong.
I think you will find Palestinian citizens agree with you on that point.
I think you will find Palestinian citizens agree with you on that point.
Yes. And the Israeli hostages.
Finding out after you’ve fucked around isn’t terror.
Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. This guy’s a vigilante.
I guess it all depends how IRA makes you feel lol
Thatcher was the one that got away
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Always has been
Technically they didn’t fully rescind it. They rescinded it in some places but not others, and for some patients but not others. It’s just PR, they have no intention of actually changing things.
You know what’s pretty neat about this?
It’s not mob justice. Mob justice is when people get together and come up with bad ideas. This is an individual that the public has now rallied around.
While we only see comments from a select few number of people in this country (relative to it’s size of 350m) it seems that democracy is voicing itself. I know a lot of people who were initially shocked, but then quickly came to the conclusion that FAFO is a real thing.
And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.
This guy is probably gonna get folk songs in TikTok by now
We don’t know the implications of this. But there got to be something big coming our way.
Ruling class will not have their lieutenant punished like this in a broad day light with out lashing out.
They already despise as is, they gonna step up brutality imho screw here, screw there.
That’s just going to pour gas on the fire. The less people have to lose, the more likely they’re going to take matters into their own hands.
You aint wrong but ruling class can’[t accept one of their officers being gunned down by what appears to be a pleb with vendetta and he get away with it while rest of us cheer him on as a hero.
This is about power, and the the people with power feeling insecure.
Time will tell. I expect things to get worse before/if they ever get better for the working class.
History is rhyming again.
Suggest reading about the circumstances running up to the storming of the Bastille.
And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.
Hopefully more of the FO part comes out of the woodwork.
Not a lot of finding out so far though.
Fuck Around, Find Out?
You got it.
“Mob justice” is a boogeyman invented to distract you from the fact that the cops and the state give you no justice at all.
It’s not even mob justice, it’s vigilante justice. It just so happens in this case practically everyone is pretty happy about it having happened.
The mob never called for this CEO’s death, we’re just not sad he was killed. Even if in general most of us wouldn’t actively call for people to be killed.
If it makes CEOs afraid, then fantastic, a nice happy side-bonus.
Yeah, and that’s all true, but in the comment I replied to was room for the implication that “mob justice” is a problem somehow.
We’re told it would be chaos, some great threat to society, but like, the only examples of mobs that I can think of doing any real damage are groups whose immediate aims were supported by the ruling class. Lynchings in the US south were openly permitted and encouraged by the entrenched white supremacist police state. Witch burnings were encouraged by the state to disenfranchise women from power over their own bodies, and they laid the foundations for capitalism.
Then those horrific examples of state oppression are presented to us as examples of the horrors that await if we were to ever stop bowing to that same state and take matters into our own hands.
Even if the person making the comment didn’t intend to reinforce that notion, it’s a default assumption for many people and I didn’t want it to stand unchallenged.
Is karma.
Good, the spineless hand wringing bootlicking fucking scumbags are losing. Wonderful to see.
unsuccessfully.
Hopefully dude never gets caught (Which he probably won’t as it’s now been greater than 48 hours, and we all know what that means if you’ve seen The First 48)
But if he does, it’s going to be awfully hard putting together a jury that hasn’t heard of JURY NULLIFICATION
First 48 is about finding a victim alive. Murderers are commonly identified and caught outside that window.
If they catch him they will kill him.
He should walk into a news organisation lobby and ask to be arrested there
And then they’ll kill him while waiting for a trial.
But the world would know it was murder and not “resisting arrest”
Would that change anything in a country where Trump is re-elected?
The cynic in me says nothing matters and nothing ever changes, the ideologe says it gives people ideas, ideas that build up and can one day turn into action.
Well, let’s hope the second part of you is right.
Exactly. There’s no way they’ll allow him to speak his mind or allow the people to rally in his support in a huge trial. They find him, he’s dead. The “how” they’ll figure it out. Happy cop trigger, killed while trying to escape, heart attack, attacked by a bear, hit by meteorite. They’ll come up with something, mark my words.
48 hours is only for regular cases with one or two cops assigned. High profile stuff like this gets considerably more attention and resources for a longer period of time
At this point, I don’t even think they want to catch him anymore. He’s already being talked about as a hero, throwing him in jail would make him a martyr. People would protest at the trial too, it would be a mess.
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Silly tardigrade’s playing on the wrong side of the bridge. Do they teach nothing at tardigrade music school?
He’s playing Penderecki
TIL. Thank you!
but the piece that truly brought him to international attention was Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima (see threnody and atomic bombing of Hiroshima), written in 1960 for 52 string instruments. In it, he makes use of extended instrumental techniques (for example, playing behind the bridge, bowing on the tailpiece).
The Threnody is definitely his most famous, but he has used that technique in some of his solo compositions for cello as well - example
Oh WOW!
That’s…something else entirely.
So violent! Yet also subtle and quiet.
Yields immediate visceral reactions.
The entire instrument is so thoroughly explored.
How does one remember such a piece?
Or keep the original bow and strings to the end?
Striking. Marvelous. Beautiful. I’m all for it.An amendment of something conjured by it:
It’s not safe out here. It’s wonderous; with
treasuresvibrations to satiate desires both subtle and gross, but it’s not for the timid.
Threnody to the Victims of Health Insurance Companies.
It’s also not even a violin.
It’s hard to tell. It looks deep like a cello, but the bridge doesn’t look quite high enough. Maybe at the tardigrade scale stringed instruments are made a little differently.
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How about mundane spelling mistake bans?
He didn’t really get “assassinated”. He just got denied his critical-life benefits.
Exactly… Don’t humaniE this parasite. Give him that corpo treatment.
Claim to life denied 🙅
Sympathy witheld until forms can be obtained that prove that the bullet holes were not a pre existing condition.
Most humans are born with orifices, I think that counts.
Pre-existing condition, lead poisoning in a boomer.
Everyone older than me is a boomer.
Everyone younger than me is a zoomer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This isn’t a generational thing. For a start, he’s technically Gen X, not a boomer. And secondly, I’m older than him and I’m just as happy about that as everyone else.
While boomer is deff age, when people refer to it online it largely mind sent reference… that parasite pest leeching on working people and feel entitled to do it, indigent when exposed.
You know the type…
(Gen X voted for Trump at a higher rate than boomers)
(Gen X voted for Trump at a higher rate than boomers)
That’s really sad because the younger someone is the more they are going to be fucked by the long term effects of Donald Trainwreck’s enshitification of everything. Nuclear proliferation from the new world disorder, global warming, hyperinflation of the national debt due to gigantic tax cuts for the billionaire elites, hollowing out democracy, normalization of corruption, normalization of routine dishonesty, huge economic inefficiencies that comes with wealth inequality, removal of previous rights like abortion, vast increase in government incompetency, etc
Which is really really sad. When I was younger I used to think we just need these old people to age out of the system and my generation can do things better. We seem to be doing significantly worse.
You’ve seen pictures of him right? Just how fucking young do you think boomers are?
Boomer, n. “A privileged asshole who keeps fucking things up for everyone else.”
If that doesn’t apply to you, they’re not insulting you.
You can’t just make up a definition of a word.
That’s literally how words are made fam
The OED would liy to know your location.
The OED is quite accepting of multiple definitions that develop over time! They love citing first known usage, it gets them hard as diamonds.
He was actually GenX.
Well, the news is now out that these corporate fatcats are not as untouchable as they think
Thank fuck Lemmy isn’t owned by corporate interests that need other corporate interests to advertise on them or it’d be happening here, too.
My only concern is that I hope this doesn’t become an Archduke Ferdinand for an American Civil War part 2.
But how…? Are Magas sad/angry that this happened? Most likely it’s the opposite. This is a poor/middle-class vs rich/ultra-wealthy scenario. I guess unless Fox tells/tricks them to be angry and blame liberals, but I’m sure plenty of them are not upset about this. I see it as “the enemy of my enemy” type deal.
This is the most united America has been since 911
Yeah, even the MAGA people I know are like “aight, cool”
Until Fox News tells them otherwise.
Is it really a civil war when 99% of the people are on one side?
I think you’re underestimating the amount of “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” out there.
Over half the country voted for trump, the man who will make everything worse and who appeals to people’s most base instincts. Some of the worst mass shootings were under Trump.
I don’t think violence will necessarily be contained to Democrats and old style Republicans. The new right likes corruption, which includes POS health insurance companies.
If that’s the case then it will just be the class war heating up because one side finally started fighting back.
So few of them, so many of us
united healthcare? how many divisions do they have?
They united the people against them. That’s living up to half the name, I guess.
Is anything remotely likely to change as a result of this on a systemic level or otherwise?
EAT. THE. RICH.
