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The last thing he witnessed was the US’s fall into true Nazism
Probably saw that, …said “Fuck it. I’m out!”
If we all had an ounce of what that Man was in us, the world would simply be a better place. He talked it. He walked it. He made a real difference before, during, and after his presidency.
Rest well, Mr. Carter!
Maybe the only US president I can think of who seemed like a genuinely good person. But I wasn’t alive during his presidency so I don’t know what things may have happened then.
He was a little too naive as president. I think that was because he was too wholesome a person to really be in the role. But he did okay. He wasn’t a great president, but equally he wasn’t terrible. And he didn’t deserve the hate and ridiculous he’s received since. Especially considering his presidency was seriously undermined by his rivals.
My dad voted for Carter twice and always said Jimmy was too good of a man to be president.
I was. Though too young to have any solid memories of it. But I remember growing up all the hate and ridicule thrown at him because he dared to treat Americans like they were intelligent adults.
his election in 1976 was the first one i remember. i was in primary school at the time. i got to stay up to watch the news coverage on tv that night.
i’ve been a dfl’er ever since.
in our own mock elections at school, he won by a wide margin (and again in 1980, as did mondale in 1984). in 1980, i was one of the kids in class assigned to stump for carter for a class project.
he will always be near the top of my list of favorite or ‘best’ presidents.
Found the Minnesotan, lol.
That “hate and ridicule” was the beginning of the right wing media takeover we’re still dealing with today, coupled to with an emerging corporate media that only reports scandals and problems to draw ratings. It was and still is absolutely awful.
Well the beginning of the next stage. You have to remember in the 1930s they plotted to overthrow and kill FDR. Fortunately FDR found out about it before they acted. But instead of trying and hanging everyone involved as he should have done. And adequately documenting it. He instead did Back Room negotiations to temporarily pass new deal policies. Which the people he let skate have spent the last 100 years slowly undoing.
FDR was old money, hanging fellow bourgeoisie for trying to influence the government is infinitely more repellent to someone like that than his buddies from the country club successfully doing a coup.
There’s no difference between then and today.
They still refuse to punish the monied elite.
The very same reason trump never got sentenced and why he’s our next president.
Everyone I know who was alive at that time has a negative opinion of him as a president but I never really understood it fully.
Their generation ate the paint chips we were warned about.
Makes me wonder what kind of utopia we will live in once the last of the lead breathers kicks it
The long and the short of it. Oil crisis and Reagan’s hostage sabotage in Iran. It’s really not that much different to anything today. Listen to any conservative complaint about contemporary Democrats and you will hear clear inane echoes.
He told Americans that we just need to tighten our belts and we will get through it. As he had personally done as a young member of the silent generation during the depression. Reagan told them all they were special little sausages. And should cater to their every greedy Indulgence. I’m sure you can guess which message they liked better. The same message they got this time.
Americans have not and will never learn their lesson as long as the wealthy own the media. Telling people what they want to hear. And turning them against those that would help them in any way.
That fucking asshole killed our conversion to metric. Carter had us pretty well on the way.
A lot of it had to do with the Iran hostage crisis (1979-81). There was a failed rescue attempt by US military in 1980 that cost the lives of 8 servicement (chopper crash) that really put the nail in the coffin for Carter.
The final death knell was the October surprise theory (supported by “several individuals—most notably, former Iranian President Abulhassan Banisadr, former Lieutenant Governor of Texas Ben Barnes, former naval intelligence officer and U.S. National Security Council member Gary Sick, and Barbara Honegger, a former campaign staffer and White House analyst for Reagan and his successor, George H. W. Bush—have stood by the allegation.” source). While the theory does have its detractors it has a lot of support by those in the know.
I was around back then and remember watching Carter almost wither away under the onslaught from Reagan and the Moral Majority.
There was also both the energy crisis itself and the “Crisis of Confidence” speech during the middle of the energy crisis, which people saw as Carter just ignoring the energy crisis.
Really, a lot of things went wrong. The biggest, though, was that Carter just refused to kiss Tip O’Neill’s ring and it meant he had both parties working against him.
You didn’t actually explain what the October Surprise Theory was. According to your link:
The 1980 October Surprise theory refers to an allegation that representatives of Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign made a secret deal with Iranian leaders to delay the release of American hostages until after the election between Reagan and President Jimmy Carter, the incumbent.
Whoops. Sorry about that.
The 1980 October Surprise theory refers to an allegation that representatives of Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign made a secret deal with Iranian leaders to delay the release of American hostages until after the election between Reagan and President Jimmy Carter, the incumbent. The detention of 66 Americans in Iran, held hostage since November 4, 1979, was one of the leading national issues during 1980, and the alleged goal of the deal was to thwart Carter from pulling off an “October surprise”. Reagan won the election, and on the day of his inauguration—minutes after he concluded his 20-minute inaugural address—the Islamic Republic of Iran announced the release of the hostages.
It is exactly like today. What Carter did, just like what Biden has done more recently , was drowned out by hate fueled character assassination. Yes Carter was a genuine nice human being wanting the best for everyone but at the same time Reagan was genuinely likable, believable. He was “the great communicator”. So like today, only a much nicer person getting his character assassinated but by somberly influential rather than todays centrism, racism, hatred and spite.
Carter also told people things they didn’t want to hear but had to. He was the genuine “telling it like it is”.
I was alive at the time e and thought Carter was a great president. I may have been biased by even then preferring engineers. However I also got swept up in the wave of Reaganism along with everyone else. Yes, I believed cities were hellish gang ridden dystopias, the countryside filled with “welfare queens” collecting generational wealth by pumping out babies, and college elite using abortion at will as just casual contraception. I still believe Reagan hastened the fall of the Soviet Union by outspending them in an arms race. I was surely naive at the time but also Reagan was that good to make you believe anything
I"m guessing Suharto and the Shah don’t exist in whatever fantasy world you live in?
I mean I openly stated that I don’t know too much about his presidency. Maybe you could explain instead of posting snarky one-liners?
He was a huge supporter of the shah of Iran and his mass torture and murder programs and Suharto of Indonesia and his mass murder of “labor” and his genocide of East Timor. He also sent a bunch of money to the El Salvadorian dictatorship they used to fund death squads, started the us funding of the mujahedin in Afghanistan we all know where that lead, supported mass killing in Angola by South Africa and the Congo both separately. I could keep going to his equality deplorable crimes with Grenada, Liberia, South Korea i could go on and on. Point is he was a bad dude.
Well, I mean, when the Iranian regime fell it didn’t exactly stabilize the region.
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I think that Carter probably regretted in retrospect that he did not sharply criticize Ford for pardoning Nixon at the time and did not campaign at all for a criminal conviction. You can hardly blame him for that, because he was somewhat of a political outsider with ambition at the time. Nevertheless, his silence ultimately helped his successor, Reagan, to set the course for the current situation: The USA, the most militarily powerful nation in the world, in the hands of criminal brutes who cannot be prosecuted by legal means - an economic super power ruled solely by greed. Nevertheless, I think Carter was the last US president who deserved that title. Whoever came after him no longer represented the interests of the American people. I’m saying this as a European that has witnessed the US do nothing else but straight up villain politics for the last 25 years - probably way longer but that was before my time.
I wanna say a bunch of sappy shit but nothing sounds right. God I wish there were more good people in positions of power. Thanks for all you did President Carter.
He spoke to the American public like they were intelligent caring individuals. And they despised him for it. Immediately, overwhelmingly electing a huckster charlatan that told them they were all wonderful and perfect little children. Many of whom still worship that man to this day. With Trump being his second coming.
We truly never deserved jimmy. But we still desperately need someone like him to this day.
The media had a big hand in Reagan being elected over Carter. Every newscast every night had a clock on the number of days the US hostages were held by the Iranians. This was a constant reminder on what was perceived as Carter’s failure. So much so, that Reagan sent George Scholtz, to Iran to make a deal for them to keep the hostages until after the election. Which was the begining of Iran-Contra. Anyway, that was the real reason.
Well let’s just overlook all that because
Yep. Perception shapes reality for most unfortunately. For all his actual failings however. He was ridiculously better than everyone after him.
If inclined to donate: Habitat for Humanity
There’s also the Carter Center, which does some work that seems increasingly important what with the attacks against free elections lately across the world.
I can count how many I respect in the U.S. on one hand. It’s… Something I try not to think about these days.
Everything is in decline, the ignorant just don’t know it yet… And there’s no way out for those of us stuck in this system. The wealthy can buy their bunkers, but the rest of us will live it.
Elon, Jeff, Trump… They are making a world they will never have to live in.
Well. At least he didn’t have to live to see fascism take over.
I am sad.
The world truly is missing someone who made it objectively better.
He supported and backed the Indonesian government in their genocide in East timor. He also supported the Khmer Rouge.
He wanted to lift sanctions against Rhodesia
He also sent millions of dollars to far right dictatorships, such as in El Salvador.
You liberals love it when polite decorum covers up the sins of the leader.
I was on board with your comment until you had to pull your tankie BS.
You guys realize that you sound like Trumpanzees with your “liberal” comments, right? Do you really want to associated with them? Think before you speak next time.
Think you’re still missing the point that he was one of the least harmful (on a presidential scale), most genuine good people we’ve had as president in a looooong while. Maybe ever.
He supported genocide.
Yeah, the bar is that low.
Damn didn’t know east timor was under his presidency.
Fuck ‘em, and this piece of shit nation he presided over.
A life well lived. RIP Jimmy.
words from the Library of Congress “a naval officer, president, and global citizen and advocate for human dignity, racial and gender equality, and democratic values”
https://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2024/12/jimmy-carter-nations-39th-president-passes-away-at-100/
MIKE! Did you let Crow get ahold of the voodoo dolls again?!
(Bye, Jimmy. You were a good man.)
At least he didn’t have to live to see Trump take office. This lame duck segment was bad enough
He’s with his wife.
Happy for him. Sad for us.
He won’t wanna see this next bit.
Goodbye to bad rubbish,
