Please fuck off. I really want to believe that you are just ignorant and mean well, but still. It’s hard being polite.
I am gay, and I have known it even before I knew what the word “gay” meant. Being gay doesn’t just mean “ooo I wanna fuck that manly ass so much, ooo I wanna suck dick”. Does being straight mean “pussy pussy I want pussy”? No. It can mean having romantic feelings for your male best friend, really liking to look at a male celeb for a very long time cuz they just “look pretty” and so on.
I was surrounded by homophobes who constantly denounced being homosexuality. I had to spend my entire childhood feeling that there was something terribly wrong with me. This was until I actually discovered the LGBTQ community. I understood that I was not the only “freak” like this in the world. I understood that I could live a nice and beautiful life as a gay dude.
If I was exposed to the concept of homosexuality in childhood (the fact that something like this even exists, and that you’re not a freak for being gay in case you think you are), then my childhood would’ve been a lot better.
The same goes with gender identity. I’m cis, so I won’t be able to give a very good description of what it’s like being trans, but from what I’ve understood from my trans friends, it’s pretty similar.
Why should kids have to suffer for not being cis n straight? Conservatives make it seem as if kids are being taught how to fellatio Jeffery Epstein or something. Kids do need to know about concepts like these (them being sexuality, gender identity, etc.) so that they can protect themselves from going down the spiral of self hatred.
Listen downvote me all you want. I’m all for people living how they want to. But school and childhood years are not fit to teach people about sexuality, especially before teenage years. If I had a kid, I wouldn’t want them to be subject to these topics until they’re at least 13-14 and that’s a teenager at that point. Most children have no idea how sexuality or genders work anyway and saying that a child can be transgender is such a wild concept to me. It’s the same as claiming a child is totally straight or gay. They’re children, what the fuck do they know.
I had my first sex ed class 8 and I was fine with it. My parents didn’t like talking about those sort of things and without school teaching me about it my knowledge would have been very lacking.
I’ve done stereotypically male and female things since I was 3. I didn’t understand what feeling like a gender was until recently and I have felt a lot better getting to explore my gender whenever I have one. If I had been taught more about it when I was young I don’t see how that exploration would have been different then from how it is for me now, except that I now am stuck with some permanent marks from pubery, some of which I do like tbh but some I really don’t like but could have probably avoided if I had known in advance.
Are you aware that girls can have their first period years before that?
In fact, there was a girl in my elementary school class who had her first during class earlier than most. She freaked out and thought she was dying, as she had not received any education regarding it. It was a horrible, embarrassing, and traumatic event for her that could have been easily prevented with proper education and preparation. This kind of thing is not uncommon for young girls to go through and it’s incredibly sad the way we view sexual education and our bodies.
I’m all for people living how they want to. But school and childhood years are not fit to teach people about sexuality, especially before teenage years.
That is an unbelievably stupid proposal. By age 13 boys, and especially girls (because they start sooner) are well into puberty. They’ve already had sexual questions and feelings for years by that point. In the absence of any teaching on what is happening to their bodies and what the consequences are of engaging in intercourse too early, many of them will make minor to catastrophic choices simply because we wouldn’t have given them normal human knowledge.
If I had a kid, I wouldn’t want them to be subject to these topics until they’re at least 13-14 and that’s a teenager at that point.
How do you not remember what your own childhood was like? On your 13th birthday did you, for the first time, look at your genitalia and wonder what it was for or “where babies came from”? No, of course not. You asked some of those questions likely when you were 6 or 7 years old. If nothing else you are leaving your child vulnerable to sexual abuse because you haven’t told them what healthy boundaries are or at worst, sexual abusers themselves again because you haven’t told them what healthy boundaries are to be respected.
Most children have no idea how sexuality or genders work anyway and saying that a child can be transgender is such a wild concept to me. It’s the same as claiming a child is totally straight or gay. They’re children, what the fuck do they know.
Seriously? Do simply you dismiss any idea or notion a child has about themselves in any capacity until they magically turn 13? If they tell you their favorite color is blue, do you tell them they can’t possibly know their own mind?
Most children have no idea how sexuality or genders work anyway
So all the kids who make fun of the “fairy boy” or “butch girl” don’t have pre-existing knowledge of gender and sexuality expectations?
Then why aren’t bullies targeting girls for dressing up in boas and singing pop? Why aren’t boys made fun of for cutting their hair short and liking sports? Put a boy in the first scenario and a girl in the second, and other kids will point them out as being “different.”
If kids have “no idea how sexuality or genders work” then what, exactly, makes this type of discrimination possible?
On an unrelated note, your understanding of children in general is absolutely baffling. It’s clear you aren’t around kids much, don’t remember your own childhood, and know diddly squat about child development. Kids are much smarter than you think.
And yet some kids do know they’re totally straight, or gay, or transgender, before they even turn 12, or 11, etc.
They might not have the vocabulary to express it, and others might not know how it works or how they feel, so that’s just all the more reason to teach them.
Imagine if we treated any other subject like this: “oh the children have no idea how it works, lets not subject them to it”. It doesn’t make sense, of course they don’t understand if they’ve never heard of it.
I knew I was into girls when I was five. I didn’t know what heterosexuality (or any other sexuality) was, but I knew girls made me feel a way that boys didn’t. And when I did learn that there were boys who felt that way about boys like I did about girls, it was about my much older brother’s college roommate and eventual best friend, who is gay. I think maybe I was seven.
The evidence says you’re wrong. Age appropriate sex education has huge proven benefits. Although sex education has basically nothing to do with gender identity, despite your conflation of the two.
And you are absolutely not for letting people live how they want with this position. You are for enabling the government to violently intrude on and control people’s lives about some of the most crucial and intimate aspects of their lives.
I hate how people conflate sexuality and sex. You can be gay and die a virgin and I have no idea why some people don’t understand that. It’s about who attracts you, not what you do.
Exactly. When I talked to my conservative Indian grandpa about gay people, he was like “how would you feel if two bearded dudes just started fucking in the street?”. It’s really crazy how people can be so… dumb…
I have known it even before I knew what the word “gay” meant.
Same in my case. I invested my own word and told my parents that I wanted to be a “tomgirl” (the opposite of a tomboy) in 3rd grade.
Honestly it’s kinda wholesome.
Please fuck off. I really want to believe that you are just ignorant and mean well, but still. It’s hard being polite.
I am gay, and I have known it even before I knew what the word “gay” meant. Being gay doesn’t just mean “ooo I wanna fuck that manly ass so much, ooo I wanna suck dick”. Does being straight mean “pussy pussy I want pussy”? No. It can mean having romantic feelings for your male best friend, really liking to look at a male celeb for a very long time cuz they just “look pretty” and so on.
I was surrounded by homophobes who constantly denounced being homosexuality. I had to spend my entire childhood feeling that there was something terribly wrong with me. This was until I actually discovered the LGBTQ community. I understood that I was not the only “freak” like this in the world. I understood that I could live a nice and beautiful life as a gay dude.
If I was exposed to the concept of homosexuality in childhood (the fact that something like this even exists, and that you’re not a freak for being gay in case you think you are), then my childhood would’ve been a lot better.
The same goes with gender identity. I’m cis, so I won’t be able to give a very good description of what it’s like being trans, but from what I’ve understood from my trans friends, it’s pretty similar.
Why should kids have to suffer for not being cis n straight? Conservatives make it seem as if kids are being taught how to fellatio Jeffery Epstein or something. Kids do need to know about concepts like these (them being sexuality, gender identity, etc.) so that they can protect themselves from going down the spiral of self hatred.
Listen downvote me all you want. I’m all for people living how they want to. But school and childhood years are not fit to teach people about sexuality, especially before teenage years. If I had a kid, I wouldn’t want them to be subject to these topics until they’re at least 13-14 and that’s a teenager at that point. Most children have no idea how sexuality or genders work anyway and saying that a child can be transgender is such a wild concept to me. It’s the same as claiming a child is totally straight or gay. They’re children, what the fuck do they know.
I had my first sex ed class 8 and I was fine with it. My parents didn’t like talking about those sort of things and without school teaching me about it my knowledge would have been very lacking.
I’ve done stereotypically male and female things since I was 3. I didn’t understand what feeling like a gender was until recently and I have felt a lot better getting to explore my gender whenever I have one. If I had been taught more about it when I was young I don’t see how that exploration would have been different then from how it is for me now, except that I now am stuck with some permanent marks from pubery, some of which I do like tbh but some I really don’t like but could have probably avoided if I had known in advance.
Are you aware that girls can have their first period years before that?
In fact, there was a girl in my elementary school class who had her first during class earlier than most. She freaked out and thought she was dying, as she had not received any education regarding it. It was a horrible, embarrassing, and traumatic event for her that could have been easily prevented with proper education and preparation. This kind of thing is not uncommon for young girls to go through and it’s incredibly sad the way we view sexual education and our bodies.
And that is how you end up with pregnant teenagers.
If a kid happens to have two dads, then what the hell are you going to hide from them until they’re friggin’ 13 years old? And WHY?
That is an unbelievably stupid proposal. By age 13 boys, and especially girls (because they start sooner) are well into puberty. They’ve already had sexual questions and feelings for years by that point. In the absence of any teaching on what is happening to their bodies and what the consequences are of engaging in intercourse too early, many of them will make minor to catastrophic choices simply because we wouldn’t have given them normal human knowledge.
How do you not remember what your own childhood was like? On your 13th birthday did you, for the first time, look at your genitalia and wonder what it was for or “where babies came from”? No, of course not. You asked some of those questions likely when you were 6 or 7 years old. If nothing else you are leaving your child vulnerable to sexual abuse because you haven’t told them what healthy boundaries are or at worst, sexual abusers themselves again because you haven’t told them what healthy boundaries are to be respected.
Seriously? Do simply you dismiss any idea or notion a child has about themselves in any capacity until they magically turn 13? If they tell you their favorite color is blue, do you tell them they can’t possibly know their own mind?
So all the kids who make fun of the “fairy boy” or “butch girl” don’t have pre-existing knowledge of gender and sexuality expectations?
Then why aren’t bullies targeting girls for dressing up in boas and singing pop? Why aren’t boys made fun of for cutting their hair short and liking sports? Put a boy in the first scenario and a girl in the second, and other kids will point them out as being “different.”
If kids have “no idea how sexuality or genders work” then what, exactly, makes this type of discrimination possible?
On an unrelated note, your understanding of children in general is absolutely baffling. It’s clear you aren’t around kids much, don’t remember your own childhood, and know diddly squat about child development. Kids are much smarter than you
think.And yet some kids do know they’re totally straight, or gay, or transgender, before they even turn 12, or 11, etc.
They might not have the vocabulary to express it, and others might not know how it works or how they feel, so that’s just all the more reason to teach them.
Imagine if we treated any other subject like this: “oh the children have no idea how it works, lets not subject them to it”. It doesn’t make sense, of course they don’t understand if they’ve never heard of it.
I knew I was into girls when I was five. I didn’t know what heterosexuality (or any other sexuality) was, but I knew girls made me feel a way that boys didn’t. And when I did learn that there were boys who felt that way about boys like I did about girls, it was about my much older brother’s college roommate and eventual best friend, who is gay. I think maybe I was seven.
Somehow it didn’t destroy me.
And you knowing gay people exist when you were 7 didn’t turn you gay? Whoah, that’s soo surprising /s
Somehow knowing gay and straight people exist somehow didn’t turn me anything, I’m ace, it’s almost as if it has nothing to do with it…
Sometimes I wonder with these bigots, like how does their worldview even remotely make sense? (not talking about you ofc to be clear)
The evidence says you’re wrong. Age appropriate sex education has huge proven benefits. Although sex education has basically nothing to do with gender identity, despite your conflation of the two.
And you are absolutely not for letting people live how they want with this position. You are for enabling the government to violently intrude on and control people’s lives about some of the most crucial and intimate aspects of their lives.
Shame on you.
I hate how people conflate sexuality and sex. You can be gay and die a virgin and I have no idea why some people don’t understand that. It’s about who attracts you, not what you do.
Exactly. When I talked to my conservative Indian grandpa about gay people, he was like “how would you feel if two bearded dudes just started fucking in the street?”. It’s really crazy how people can be so… dumb…
Same in my case. I invested my own word and told my parents that I wanted to be a “tomgirl” (the opposite of a tomboy) in 3rd grade.
Honestly it’s kinda wholesome.
Agreed haha. So cute