Sec. 2. Closing the Department of Education and Returning Authority to the States. (a) The Secretary of Education shall, to the maximum extent appropriate and permitted by law, take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education and return authority over education to the States and local communities while ensuring the effective and uninterrupted delivery of services, programs, and benefits on which Americans rely.
Was on the radio, some notes:
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The responsibility of FAFSA (which is 2/3 of it’s budget) likely goes to Treasury and honestly I don’t think they can realistically pull that back legally, at least anytime soon. Disability funds supposedly will move somewhere too.
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The DoE itself likely will exist in the same limbo as USAID since legally it requires Congress, and judges can and will challenge illegal moves. That said, I say limbo because USAID may have got people back but empty buildings and ongoing stuff is ruined. Expect that from DoE, even though it shouldn’t be allowed.
My own info, though, is they only provide public schools about 5 to 10% budget on average, and yes, it’s heavily towards rural districts. This likely will have very little impact on blue states, although don’t go celebrating as budgets are already tight in several places and even blue states will cut into education to fund other things like fire relief. Our Blue states are still no where near as good as many European and Asian country educational institutions.
I hope whoever is considering cutting the DoE realizes that among the many, many things they do is nuclear weapons research
I think you’re thinking of the department of energy, not education.
lol I’m too used to DoE referring to Department of Energy I didn’t connect that it’s the same acronym.
The current admin is also attacking the department of energy because they do a lot of climate and renewable energy research. But that’s among many, many other things they do.
Yeah, apparently the department of Education is officially ED. So your confusion was natural.
This is getting a little more out there, but fuck it, we’re all going to be nervously grasping our crystals and consulting our horoscopes soon enough. If you believe AARO/AATIP, they also contract out research to study recovered UFOs. One of the major points of the congressional UAP hearings in 2023 was claiming that we have multiple recovered vehicles under the domain of the DoD and DoE and that we need to open source the research on them. Not sure I believe them, but it was certainly an allegation I wasn’t expecting.
The money from federal grants mostly goes towards vulnerable student populations like special education, English learners, and poverty. So the most vulnerable students will probably feel these cuts the most, unless states step up to address the gaps.
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This entire executive order is about privatizing education and taking control of the loans to give to billionaires. States already fund their own education.
This really doesn’t effect the states education budget too much.
doesn’t affect* the states’* education budgets*
Mexico education levels coming right up! Oh nevermind they’re ahead now…Colombia! Peru? Angola? Ah! Antarctica! The king penguin colony! Penguins are retarded. You can tell because the males give ugly rocks to the females.
The conservatives have been objecting to the Dept of Education since its inception just after the Civil War.
Their objectio then is the same now. Alrhough they don’t say it out loud anymore.
That it is dangerous, to the wealthy, to educate the lower classes
Gotta be a new rule/law made that your EO is invalidated if you preface it with provably false info. Authority already lies with the states. If they rejected Federal funds they’d practically achieve the same end goal. Main difference being blue states can’t get the funding either and civil rights violations will go unchecked.
Super embarrassing. Fucking idiots and their followers
I think they do something like “soft secession”. Instead of breaking the federation apart officially, they’re eroding the federation (federal government) to the point where it’s no longer relevant. They talk about “state’s rights”.
They’re accelerationists. They’re burning the system down so they can build their own in its place.
Legit should have just let the CSA go after burning them to the ground.
good, now we can finally indebt 8 year olds too not just college students. they had it too good for too long
–trump, probably
I’ve definitely heard of lunch debt, so I think it’s already happening.
Because US Americans are too damn educated today and we need them to be less educated /s
The poor masses are to be used as cannon fodder and slaves for the privately educated children of the ruling class.
The Department of Education was established by Congress. Elimination of it will take an act of Congress. This man is the biggest puppet ever.
Why do you think they’ll follow any sort of law or rule? Legitimate question.
They can tell everyone they’re fired, change the locks/codes. Shutdown emails etc. and there is literally nobody that will stop them.
Except us with weaponry.
the 2th amendment existing was no accident.
This is the biggest argument to show that all that big talks about 2nd amendment was nothing but bullshit all along. US is in the middle of fascist takeover, and what good their 3 guns per human brought them? Are there any consequences for fascist dismantling the very fabric of democracy?
Turns out the only thing all that abundance of guns is good for are school shootings and elevated crime rates, nothing else.…you know most of the gun squad is on his side, yeah?
I was assured on a numerous occasions, that there are legions of armed Marxists walking around, waiting for the glorious revolution to start or whatever. I guess, it’s not exactly true either, huh
I feel like you should leave saying that for another year or 2. It’s understandable that people aren’t quite yet ready to abandon legal means.
When the time to abandon legal means comes, it’s already too late.
I mean yes, that’s why you have to abandon legal means. Because it’s too late.
This is the whole problem. When it’s too late, it’s too late, definitionally. You can’t do shit against full on authoritarian government. You can’t do shit even if you have community. And you don’t have community, Americans hate each other more than anything, and it turned out most of them aren’t smart, so they’re ripe for the picking for every asshole imaginable to fuck them sideways.
Montesquieu knew what was up. If Donald declares himself King and we don’t meaningfully say no as a society, then he’s a king. The constitution isn’t going to rise up out of its case and shoot atomic fire at him, it’s just an old piece of paper that only matters insofar as we believe in it. And, well, [gestures around] I’d say that ship has pretty well sailed.
I think what we’ve seen is that Congress only has the powers that it uses. Sure, they could stop trump from nuking the DoE, but if they don’t do shit, then it doesn’t matter.
If you live in a state in the US, then you have a congress critter (multiple really) that represents you. Red, Blue, or independent, go to their town halls, go to their open forums, go to their offices, and tell them to do their fucking job. Whether that is officially closing the DoE, or preventing trump from doing it, they need to legislate it.
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https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
You can look up your Senators and Rep here. Just called all 3 of my Congressmen and told them to do their jobs and legislate. I got through to my Rep’s office (they’re smaller and local) and left messages for both of my senators. All three are feckless republican shit-hawks, but at least I let them know they need to exercise the checks congress has, and that felt pretty good.
The law has always been a matter of what is or can be enforced, rather than what is written. Which is why it’s been excruciating to listen to MAGA family members try to defend voting for reps who have been saying for years that they plan to eliminate the Social Security and Medicare on which those MAGAs depend. “They can’t just do that! My tax dollars paid for it! And have you heard KaMAla’s laugh??”
I despise the ‘‘he probably won’t do that, he’s a big talker’’ Trump voters the most. You mean you can admit fully you don’t want what he’s selling, but you’re still gonna vote for him. Fucking WHY.
I think the practical problems with this are going to be weird. The federal Department of Education is pretty small and doesn’t set as much policy as people assume since that’s 90% done at the state and local level. The college student loan program is a huge component and could theoretically be ruined or just moved to Treasury or HHS or whatever.
The rest is mostly grants to state and local governments and red state politicians are going to be even more pissed than blue if they kill those and put a hole in their budget that has to be filled. (Doesn’t mean they won’t do it but it’s not going to please any governors/legislators.)
The people who will likely suffer most are special ed students since those grants are, obviously, for public schools and private/parochial schools basically never have programs for students with severe, profound, or mild autism. (I don’t know the current terms but when I was in high school, people with, for instance, autism were classified as severe, profound, mild, or moderate based on where they fell on the spectrum. Those terms are probably outdated or were unique to my school system.)
put a hole in their budget that has to be filled.
Who says it has to be filled? Republicans certainly don’t.
In normal times, I’d say it’s complicated. There’s a lot of suburban parents who are busy and tune out the news but get very politically activated if you start fucking with schools (and student aid because that’s fucking with their money).
Not sure if MAGA cares — I don’t know if we’ll even have elections — but don’t underestimate parents to be late to the fight but then want to gouge out a politician’s eyes.
They were super happy to see marginalized kids get abused and bullied, but when they realize this will affect their “angel” I think we might see Trump try and backtrack on this.
This is fucking horrifying. Americans you need to do something wtf is going on down there
A significant portion of our population, primarily in Republican controlled regions, didn’t receive an adequate education, so they lack critical thinking skills or any concept of how our government actually functions.
Don’t forget those that want public education to fail so that they can make money off the private schools and people who want private schools so they can discriminate legally.
But why aren’t you burning down the white house?
[notes .ca instance] That’s more y’all’s thing. At the rate Trump is screwing with you, I fear you’ll have a good reason to do it soon enough.
[notes .ca instance] That’s more y’all’s thing
I got that reference!
Because the actual left was disorganized and scattered after eighty years of Red Scare even before fascists got direct control of the alphabets and liberals are fucking useless.
Capitalism.
And white supremacy.
If you speak out about it you’re seen as a “Radical” and/or “Leftist”
We have a bad bad case of “-That- would never happen -here!-”
But he needs Congressional approval to do so.
Says who
He needs to have not committed insurrection to become President.
I’m looking forward to Schumer whipping up enough bootlickers on the dem side to pass this in the spirit of cooperation
Crunchy-granola birkenstock-wearing pacifist hippie boomer Democrats versus uneducated inbred heavily armed MAGA Tea Party Republicans. Who will win?
The armed maggots haven’t shot at a person. They don’t know the feeling of actively looking at a neighbor, or anyone who might look like them, and intentionally destroying that human life.
And we need to use that against them.
Edit: I will concede I was wrong. Most are still cowards and won’t do it.
I don’t know if you’re trolling or just stupid; they (two registered Republican voters) tried to assassinate their own candidate, twice while he was running for election… Most of the mass shooters that got notoriety in the past decade were Republican gun owners. GTFO of here with your dumb bullshit
I will concede I was wrong.
Most are still cowards and won’t do it.
I think Schumer and the other spineless Dems will have no problem bending over and being a submissive bitch for him like they did with the funding.
Pretending that the old rules still apply is how Empires fall.
Only if anybody stops him, which is only partially happening right now. Courts are being ignored.
If the control of education is going to return to the state level, maybe this will be the solution for the mass exodus from blue states. You want an actual good education? Don’t move to Texas.
One could simply live in a college dorm at a blue-state college, and then after graduation move to a dogshit red state with more affordable housing and get a remote white-collar job that pays six figures.
I’m thinking grade school. People decide where they will live based on education for their children.
This is that you voted for protest-non-voters. Congratulations!
Like Schumer isn’t whipping up a bipartisan support bill right now to signal his “willingness to compromise”
Every time Republicans do something stupid, BHB replies: “Thanks non-voters! This is all your fault! :^)”
Every time Democrats do something stupid, BHB: “This is just slander, you’re spamming our public fourm with this! How dare you call out my team doing something genuinely so stupid! Don’t ask me to reply, that’s a strawman!”
Barqs would wait in line for Trump to shoot him if Schumer voted yes for it.
