WASHINGTON, July 11 (Reuters) - A California farmworker died on Friday from injuries sustained a day earlier when U.S. immigration agents raided a cannabis operation and arrested hundreds of workers, according to a farmworker advocacy group.
Dozens of migrant-rights activists faced off with federal agents in rural Southern California on Thursday. It was the latest escalation of President Donald Trump’s campaign to deport all immigrants in the U.S. illegally.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security said in a statement that approximately 200 people in the country illegally were arrested in the raid, which targeted two locations of the cannabis operation Glass House Farms.
Agents also found 10 migrant minors at the farm, the statement said. The facility is under investigation for child labor violations, said Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Rodney Scott in a post on X.
Retard Whitehouse Press Secretary said: Enforcement operations require careful planning and execution; skills far beyond the purview or jurisdiction of any judge.
So in other words he’s saying, “we have top white men working on it…. They’re figuring out if they’re white or not. Did I mention we have top white men looking into it?”
You have top white men working on it right now? Who?
Somebody knows him.
source:
https://www.dw.com/en/us-worker-reportedly-dies-after-immigration-raid-on-farm/a-73249559
With a nose like Pinocchio, I’m sure many would see that MF on the streets.
Under what logic does immigration enforcement deal with domestic production of cannabis.
(I know, 100 miles from any border, port of entry, federal land, Indian reservation, etc but still)
They’re not immigration enforcement. They’re gestapo.
It doesn’t have to matter, as long as the footage looks good enough to be edited and posted by the White House.
If I dont think people should be able to stay here illegally, but I dont think its right to deport them or make them citizens, then what’s the solution? I can’t tell if people here are simply arguing the system should be left as it was before trump and ICE caused all this or if there is a goal to work towards.
They’re not really here illegally though. Just in a technical sense. It’s only a law.
But who gives a fuck about paper? Americans demand undocumented workers should get to stay. We demand they work our businesses. We vote for / bribe politicians to carve out our own “legality.”
The people brutally raiding immigrants have stated that they will leave farms alone. You have paper that says they’re here illegally, but our entire system says they’re allowed to be here.
Off the top of my head, I can think of two solutions - one obvious one, and one you probably won’t like.
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Use due process to find and prosecute the people who are here illegally.
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Get rid of the laws that make it illegal for people to stay here.
The system as it was before Trump was certainly favorable to the concentration camp solution we’re using now, so yeah, I think going back to that would be a good start. After that, we can continue improving to one of the other solutions I suggested (or maybe even a third one I didn’t pull out of my ass).
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It should have been an ice simp that bid farewell. Hopefully the outcome will be the opposite next time provided the good lord willing & the creek doesn’t rise
Disgusting shit
It was the latest escalation of President Donald Trump’s campaign to deport all immigrants in the U.S. illegally.
There are two ways to parse this sentence, and I suspect the most accurate parsing was not the one intended by Reuters.
remove the word ‘in’ and you get what is really happening
Yeah, especially since they are revoking visas and going after naturalized citizens. It’s like they ran out of people to attack on day one.
It’s almost as if they had already been going after the criminals and deporting them…
no, human is illegal!
Unfortunately a growing number are
Which to me reads as an damning self-own by the law.
I am only able to interpret this sentence one way: that Trump is illegally deporting all immigrants. Please explain the other interpretation.
- The immigrants are here illegally vs.
- The deporting is illegal
The other interpretation elides “who are”:
“It was the latest escalation of President Donald Trump’s campaign to deport all immigrants who are in the U.S. Illegally.”
This is similar to a sentence like: “Please point out all the boys eating hot dogs quickly”, which is also ambiguous in the same ways, but I feel shows the intended interpretation more clearly.
That the immigrants are IN the US illegally. Is my guess.
Some citizen workers who were detained reported only being released from custody after deleting photos and videos of the raid from their phones, said UFW President Teresa Romero in a statement.
I’m sure everything was being done by the numbers.
This is why you need to have this shit uploading to a remote server automatically in the background each time one is taken. Livestreams need to be happening as well.
I was about to recommend the ACLUs “Mobile Justice” app that was designed to do just that, but instead learned that it was shut down in February. Fuck.
To ensure compliance with a growing number of consumer privacy laws and the ACLU’s own privacy policies and to minimize risk with surveillance technologies currently used by law enforcement…
This sounds vaguely like coercion.
Cloud services are a big help here.
Also, delete doesn’t mean delete on iOS there’s an automatic grace period.
Also, depending on how closely they are watching it’s very easy to save images and photos to Files, essentially a on device copy.
Yup. Scum ice racking up those numbers.
wtf?
Several farmworkers were injured and one died on Friday from injuries sustained after a 30-foot fall from a building during the raid, said Elizabeth Strater, national vice president of the United Farm Workers.
"fall"👐
Suicides, every one of them.
Hey mods, how many of us do they get to kill before you will let us talk about killing them?
You don’t get to talk about killing ANYONE. Not here. Neither do they.
I’ll do whatever the fuck I want, thanks. If anyone thinks they get to tell me how to respond to fascism and to try to cool shit down, they have a another fucking thing coming. This is real people’s lives. Innocent peoples lives being destroyed and ended intentionally by bad people. Shitty people who chose to do that job and choose to continue to do it.
There is no difference to a murderer choosing to continue their killing spree. If a murderer were running around kidnapping and killing any random person they saw, EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY WOULD RIGHTFULLY BE CALLING FOR THEIR HEAD.
The rules and norms of our society are dead. They killed them. They are currently stomping all over them. Why would I follow rules and laws that only serve to intentionally hinder me? Why would I acknowledge the authority of anyone who would try to do so?
This isn’t Lost Carcosa and you don’t get to make the rules here.
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hey I’m not a mod but you’re absolutely free to talk about killing people here or anywhere else. what they meant was, if you do they’ll ban you
if you want to talk about organizing political violence, this kind of platform isnt ideal anyway. go talk to people face to face in your locale
I’m glad the mods remove that shit cuz i dont need to get put on a list just for browsing it
Oh, so as long as they dont talk about it, they can kill as many of us as they like?
Because human life is worth less than civility?
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I understand your frustration, but us mods are bound by the instance-wide rules and TOS
Oh, and one of the people your arguing is reporting you as a troll, which you obviously aren’t.
Yeah I figure almost everything I say is reported. Thanks for not modding without checking context.
Lobby to change the TOS. No one is taking down lemmy servers. At least not yet—which could happen if things get worse.
Unfortunately .world is in a country with strict laws against that sort of thing, so they are at very real risk of getting shut down if they change their rules against calling for violence.
Why not just deploy your own server anonymously in some jurisdiction where you can get away with this? Why harass the mods at all? This isn’t Reddit.
The problem isn’t the instance you are on. It’s the instance this community is on. I’ve started to comment less and less on .world because of their “both sides are the same” stance.
It really is a toxic shit hole that needs to be cut down to size so people can defederate when they pull bullshit.
Right, I’m saying to roll your own server and host a similar community yourself. If your opinion is so popular then naturally users will flock to your server.
The catch here is that you’ll be forced to moderate it according to the local laws in which the server resides. It’s possible you’ll run into the same legal obstacles the mods here are forced to deal with. With a little empathy and understanding maybe you’ll understand why they are the way that they are.
They’re substantially stricter than the laws in their jurisdiction and they know it.
Except in certain very specific kinds of violence, which are fine, but they’re incapable of acknowledging, which is part of the problem.
Because they will defed from me lol
So?
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You’re just a magat.
Well that’s quite the leap. Based on one word?
I don’t see you denying it. Are you enjoying watching what’s happening to the United States? Because if you are, that makes you one…
You’re not talking to me and I’m no MAGA supporter but I blocked you—too much crazy for me.
Who is them? Remember, ICE are fodder for billionaires.
they never will lol. everyone is afraid of the legalities involved and aren’t willing to risk lawsuits for your correct call for violent action. nobody is willing to support a movement of revolutionaries because it is bad optics. violence is unpopular even though it gets results.
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Absolutely fucking not. I got banned from that entire instance for saying shit like I want to say. That is definitely not a community that welcomes creative thinking
And actually… I think it was you who invited me over there.
Oh your that person that was banned by another mod, but said you operated an army of alt accounts you use to spam anyway so didn’t care that you were unbanned?
Well for anyone else, you’re welcome to participate. I made the community myself after similar bans for calls for action, and as long as they’re directed rightwards I don’t mind if others do.
I don’t operate an army full of alts.
Oh, well that’s funny because only 1 user was ever banned for that sort of speech.
And the person who was banned kept saying they were banned from the whole instance rather than just the single community, which is oddly what you’re also doing.
Must just be a coincidence, enjoy your day.
It sounds more like they had a script to create a lot of accounts on various instances so they “never run out” of accounts after getting banned so much for “calling for action.”
I do have to ask though, what did they get banned for? It’s not operating an army or whatever, because they mention this after the ban—right?
Plot twist!
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What a shitty, dishonest retort. The entire goal is to be allowed to talk about it so he can organize and gain allies so there’s a chance to win, but you’re just telling him to pointlessly suicide-by-cop.
It’s not at all strategically comparable and it’s dishonest rhetoric and it’s cyberbullying. That’s the kind of shit that ought to be banned!
Go do what?
Hey mods, how many of us do they get to kill before you will let us talk about killing them?
Are you just talk? You want to advocate for others to do what you won’t?
They say actions speak louder than words so, hop to it. The rest of us will be right behind you…
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Interesting how everyone who questions you gets labeled a “magat”.
Interesting how none of them are denying it.
Why? Because some coward on the internet who’s all talk made a baseless accusation?
I’m not really worried what you think.
Stop trying to advocate violence, everyone knows you’re just an agitator.
I don’t disagree with them. These raids are brutal and disgusting, and frankly the way these “authorities” act with impunity, they deserve every bullet thrown their way.
We need agitators.
Especially when they’re using alligators, and are already killing us.
All your posts about taco trump or whatever will surely accomplish more lol
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This is the lefty version of “everything I don’t like is woke”
Just pointing out that it is perfectly legal to open carry on private property. Requiring warrants and identification before allowing LE on premises is completely reasonable.
In California? Because it varies by state and having a gun is a good way to get shot by ICE
It’s legal to be armed on your own property in all of America, provided you can legally own the firearm. Or if you’re a guest of the owner, you have to have their permission to be armed, because it is their property.
You might get looks from the neighbors, but it’s by no means a crime. If you’re in a rural area I doubt anyone would even look twice even in California.
On private property, yes. Don’t take it into public.
People need to start shooting back
comments on lemmy are getting a bit unhinged
Situation’s getting pretty unhinged.
True!
But yeah, calling for people to actually shoot at ice agents?
Fuck the police and all that but… Theres some wack vibes right there. I dunno.
I guess that downvote ratio says a lot. 😐
Hey, hypothetical hyperbolic crazy situation:
Hypothetical you is an american. Sorry.
If iCE were to, under the protective cover of military black hawk helicopters and a major city’s police department, with US marines standing guard around the building, take vans of chained up (arms and legs) american children and put them on a plane to death camps where they advertised and bragged about ample local wildlife to dispose of the bodies. Just for being the wrong ethnicity, not that there’s any good reason to do that to children.
Just, for the sake of argument, in a situation like that which could never happen. What would you say should be done?
Assuming we couldn’t get aforementioned bukake-brigades trained, lubed, and ‘shooting’ on demand. Though the ethics of that strategy might need to be reconsidered, given the absuctees in this purely hypothetical situation would be children.
Hey now, nobody in this thread was talking about shooting guns at ice agents.
I hapoen to know the person upthread is a make-love-not-war type, so I’d interpret that as lining the rooftops with
angryhorny young men with premature ejaculation problems where an ice raid is expected, and, uh shooting back. In a way that might make them wish for bullets, but, barring truly exceptional volume and some straight up hentai shit, shouldn’t endanger their lives.If their old german counterparts had faced opposition like that, the holocaust never would have got off the ground.
Well it looks like ICE is just gonna throw you out a window anyway.
may ICE never know peace
It will take a decade or maybe more but they will be hunted.
Germany is still finding their Nazis 80 years later so America’s secret police better be looking over their shoulder for the next eight decades.
Very disgusting and brutal to see.
