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cm0002@lemmy.world to Programmer Humor@programming.dev · 2 months ago

Have a bit of trust

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  • Eager Eagle@lemmy.world
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    I’ll fix it in an hour. When I get to it in a couple of weeks.

    • TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world
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      *months

  • boydster@sh.itjust.works
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    I didn’t say which hour. This one isn’t looking good, though.

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      Haha, i’ll use that

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    An hour of CPU/brain time, not wall clock time.

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      Allow a 100:1 wall clock to CPU/brain rate

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        “And if you keep interrupting me it’ll be even longer”

        Apparently I am just an LLM running on an organic substrate.

  • TallonMetroid@lemmy.world
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    This is why I avoid giving concrete estimates whenever possible.

    • CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world
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      But if your hand is forced, it should always be 2x-10x the actual estimate, depending on the complexity of the task, and never less than 2 hours.

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        • palordrolap@fedia.io
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          This is one of those rare occasions where “IT” might have been better fully punctuated as “I.T.”, but the thought of using “Scotty” as a verb meaning “generously pad all estimates” amuses me.

          e.g. “If I want to cover my a—, I should Scotty it.”

        • marlowe221@lemmy.world
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          This right here

        • Machinist@lemmy.world
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          This is actually wisdom. I use a 4x fudge factor.

    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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      I just say “five days”

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        https://media.tenor.com/Hl1Buq3s2_4AAAAM/two-weeks.gif

        • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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          Ah, I see you’ve looked at my JIRA tickets with my new employer

    • Johanno@feddit.org
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      I estimate how long would it take. Then I add some buffer of 20% to it. Then I double it and call it good.

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      I have always told my team “remember that last piece of work? Add an appropriate fudge factor to this estimate to deal with those sort of problems”

      There’s usually a last one, if not there’ll be one I can call by name

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    An hour of ideal developer time. Too bad there’s only 3 of 4 of those per quarter.

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    “ It’ll be fixed in 1h. 30min if you leave the room.”

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    This is one of those cases where if I’m saying an hour I mean and hour and will proactively reach out as soon as I realize that hour is wrong.

    I get this is meant as a joke about how difficult is it to estimate things, but this isn’t on anyone but me and making sure I am communicating my progress. Anyone who has the title of senior developer and disagrees is senior in name only.

    And I post this as there is literally a production issue being discussed because procrastination is always part of my estimates. The troubleshooting revealed it’s not my bug, it’s on that other team’s so I get to wait for them to fix their data and confirm my teams stuff works once the data is correct or I get to fix it live; my favorite but exceedingly rare.

    The adrenaline of that is awesome and I question the career choice of anyone who dreads this stuff.

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    under promise over deliver. Always.

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      I promised a number of hours under any sane estimate and delivered four days over the estimate. Success.

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    The usual paradigm for dev estimates is double the number, bump the units.

    1 hour -> 2 days.

    • leo85811nardo@lemmy.world
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      I’ll retire in 2 years

      So basically 4 decades

      • MalReynolds@piefed.social
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        At that level (of age), choices come into play.

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    Hey we just tell you the estimate. If it doesn’t get in the sprint that’s not our fault.

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    For me I often have a fix in 5 minutes. I just don’t have the time to review and push

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
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      Never fix anything in 5 minutes.they will expect you to fix every other problem in the same time.

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      The fix might be 5 mins. Figuring out wtf was wrong in the first place is the time consuming bit. Especially if the report doesn’t contain a repeatable process to trigger the error condition.

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    The “in an hour” is relative

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    With the exception of ublock devs.

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