This one’s probably a question with no answer because the boys’ club are vanishingly unlikely to cast a woman to play Bond.
You’re thinking of Jane Fonda
Anyone who’s seen Casino Royale (2006) knows the codename theory is horseshit. Bond was Bond before he was a 00. Later, when he resigns from MI6, he’s still Bond. It’s his name.
Same with anyone who’s seen GoldenEye. If Bond was a codename, Trevelyan would be too, and he’d have mentioned that he no longer went by that MI6-given moniker.
In Casino Royale (the real one from 1967) they actually do that. They call every agent, male and female, James Bond to confuse the enemy.
James Bond was his actual name.
007 was his code name, and they would replace it when an agent with that designation were to die or retire.
That doesn’t seem very clever, going around sharing your own name despite being a spy.
Yet Ian Flemming was supposed to use his past experience in British Intelligence to come up with Bond’s novels, so what do I know.
He goes undercover in one of the books. His pseudonym is Mark Hazard.
Sounds like something out of MST3K
It’s actually standard practice for secret agents to use their real names, as accidentally failing to respond to a pseudonym is one if the easiest ways to blow their cover.
Furthermore, Bond is a secret agent. The fact that he’s a spy who has tons if amazing adventures is not public knowledge, let alone well-known. We the audience know James Bond as a super-popular action hero from a long series of movies, but in his own universe there is nothing particularly special or noteworthy about the name James Bond.
- Mata Hari was Margaretha Geertruida Zelle.
- Fritz Duqesne had at least 30 known aliases.
- Lise de Baissac was primarily known as Irene Brisse but also Odile, Margerite and Adele.
- Even Dušan Popov, who’s allegedly the source for James Bond used in more than one occasion aliases like Duchan, Dusan or Hans: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/record?catid=8204882&catln=6
- Eli Cohen also used a fake Syrian identity because c’mon, you won’t go around with an Israeli name trying to get into the Syrian government.
I know that double agents like Richard Sorge or Aldrich Ames would use their actual identities, but fake identities or even using the names of deceased people is very common.
Also, in the Bond universe a LOT of people seem to know who he is, it’s not public knowledge per se, but like it seems that all major intelligence services have heard of him and also anybody with power and connections and ill-intent.
He kinda operates like a really weird form of special forces than a spy half the time.
Good chance is if you know who he is by face or name, you’re in trouble or about to see trouble.
They originally sent him in as a spy but he’s a narcissist so he makes sure everyone knows who he is but they keep sending him because it turns out despite being a terrible spy he’s still really good at completing the missions anyway.
He wasn’t really a good spy. 🤷♂️
But you have heard of him! Which eh… ya actually maybe you’ve a point there.
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It’s like a fan theory, which explains why James Bond has always been James Bond despite having many different actors portray him.
Her name could be Jaymes Bond. And there is no reason a girl cannot be called James. Nikita is female in most of the world, except Russia. Carrol is a man’s name, and Carol is a woman’s name. Tony can be a man or a woman. Names only have genders because we assign them that trait. If all the guys you ever knew in your life were called “Sophia”, it would be weird for a girl to take that name. A name is just a name, no matter how weird, unique or cool it is, it’s just a name.
A name is a name till it becomes female then it never goes back. It’s a weird phenomenon. Names going from male to female seems fine but not the other way. And yes their are some exceptions.
Damned interesting! Where’s the Homer Simpson quote about old guys having all the cool names like Carol and Meredith and Lesley?
But James Bond is supposed to be a bland forgettable name since Jaymes is an uncommon name for a woman it would be much more rememberable
Elton John, then still not fully out of the closet, made good use of that, writing a love song titled Nikita, though having the love interest in the video be a blonde woman in a fur hat (presumably to appease the record company).
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Lots of my mayo buddies got a surprise when they choose to interview the doll named “Angel” in cyberpunk 2077.
Not sure what a mayo buddy is, but I take it Angel is male and your buddies aren’t close to any Hispanic communities, didn’t watch Dexter, and don’t know St Michael’s title. And while not named as “Angel” but playing angels, didn’t see Dogma or Good Fortune
You missed that lame ass vampire show too wasn’t his name angel? Personally I watched angel get chainsawed in a bathroom guess the film! Mayo is spicy flavor for whities.
Lame Buffy was one of the biggest shows in its time. Also the spin off.
Tell me about how you love twilight because of “how popular it was” I said lame ass vampire show and I means it.
Mayo is spicy flavor for whities.
What does that have to do with an option in a video game?
Talkin bout crackers foo! mah fakers eat cooked chicken plain.
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Well in NTTD, the number 007 was assigned to the Lashana Lynch character named Nomi so “James Bond” is probably not a code name. Otherwise 008 would be “Alex Trevelyan”, etc.
Easier to reassign the designation number.
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Would you consider it “woke” or something if they did?
Woke is just a term for human rights that fascist want to take away.
I can see why you ask that. Since I didn’t think that comment though very well, now every downvoter considers me a racist. Fair enough. Should have rewritten it entirely, but it’s too late for that now.
Long and nuanced posts are boring to read while short and snappy ones involve skipping all the important details. Also, swiping away carelessly doesn’t help.
I was mainly thinking about the fact that Disney tends to change things significantly and abruptly. For example, many Star Wars fans were disappointed by the changes, so I thought that 007 fans could face similar disappointments. What those changes actually are do not really matter to me. What matters more is how quickly they happen and how much the direction of the entire series changes.
I don’t use the term “woke” to describe the changes Disney makes, since I prefer to distance myself from the crowd that uses it. Focussing more on the rate of change and its magnitude is more interesting to me.
My instance doesn’t allow downvoting. You’re right, you should have rewritten it. It’s one thing to complain about them doing live/cgi remakes of stuff like Lion King vs skin color or gender of a character.
There are British people who are black and female, so it’s not like it’s unbelievable or something. It also doesn’t help your case that 007 is a frequently reinvented character, albeit with a strong set of tropes to follow.
I’m happy for you that you don’t call things like that “woke”, I guess.
I thought you were referring to Disney’s live action remakes, which are ass and way the fuck more sexist, but do have one black woman in them, so congratulations to Rob Marshall.
I have seen some reviews of the live action remakes, and I was not impressed. As a result, nowadays I actively avoid being exposed to those movies.
Good call on avoiding the live remakes. I watched a few when I had the free oportunity and the time to waste. They’re soulless trash that feel empty compared to the animated disney originals.
There was a black female 007 in the last film you dimwit. She was bloody good too. I’d be happy for her to be the next bond, but she won’t be.
I haven’t seen it, was James Bond dead or something so his code name got given away?
Calm down it’s just a movie, don’t let your biscuits boil in your tea trolly mate.
I didn’t like Ms Lynch as the actor, though. I didn’t respond well to her portrayal and I thought it was just … off. I don’t know.
Sonequa Martin-green makes an excellent cop and a decent zombie-fighter, and I think she’d make an excellent bond if we’re looking to upset the rednecks.
But they’ll probably keep it a stuffy male brit character, so Cilian Murphy or Henry Cavill, but I would have loved to’ve seen Idris Elba get a turn.
Gods, the first time heard Elba get suggested as a possible Bond, I flipped out. Then it eventually reached a point where it was definitely not going to happen, and it made me really not want to see any more Bond movies at all. There’s some actors born to play a role, and if they don’t, it’s kinda horrible. Like, if Pierce Brosnan had never had a chance to be Bond, it would have been a miscarriage of cinematic justice, no matter how the movie actually turned out (I enjoyed his turn personally).
The fact that it’s essentially impossible to have Elba do even a single bond film now ruins the franchise for me
There’s already been a black female 007.
and yet that would fit the designation discussion going on. Interesting how you want to turn it in to a racist shitpost instead of discussing it like someone with more than a lonely braincell crying out for attention.
Didn’t expect a strong reaction like that. Then again, I didn’t think it through before hitting send. My bad.
Well, you have to ask yourself before making comments like that… Would the story be bad because it had a black woman in it? Or would it be bad because a soulless megacorp would rip any and all meaning out of the script regardless of who starred in it?
If it’s the former, you’re being racist. If it’s the latter, why mention a black woman?
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