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Long live sandwich man!!!
He should now sue to have ICE buy him a gift card to replace the sandwich.
These cold cuts don’t run!
It should be remembered that SEVERAL grand juries initially declined to charge the defendant, despite the ironic traditional reputation of grand juries to “indict a ham sandwich.” But they kept going back. They were determined to destroy this citizen.
Obviously, they eventually prevailed, got the Sandwich Assassin into a courtroom, where the “victim” proceeded to blatantly lie in open court:
Lairmore had testified that the sandwich “exploded all over” his chest and claimed he could smell mustard and onions. But a photo showed that the sandwich was still in its wrapper on the ground after it hit Lairmore in his bulletproof vest.
What fucking drama queen LIAR. He should be charged with perjury.
Also, the jurors had sandwiches for lunch. I’m surprised the Trump lawyers didn’t try for a mistrial on the grounds that lunch was prejudicial.
I feel bad for the guy for losing a perfectly good sandwich.
Fucking ICE losers.
I agree completely.
Eventually we’ll have a new administration. Would you be in favor of going after ICE agents and other bad actors from Trump’s term? Or would that be unnecessary retribution?
We are in this position because we declined to go hard on Civil War traitors and Nazis. This time, we have to slam the lid so hard on these psychopaths, that whoever doesn’t end up in prison, or executed, will slither bank under their slimy rocks and stay there.
And then we have to reconfigure our entire History and Social Studies curriculum to include the true history of the Right, with special emphasis on the Treason of MAGAs and the Republican responsibility for their rise. Even private schools should be forced to adopt that curriculum if they expect to remain open.
That way, when they try to emerge again in the future, we will recognize them for what scum they are, and brutalize them again until they decide that their rocks weren’t so bad after all.
That first paragraph, do you have a source for that?
I tried to find proof and all I could find was that the grand jury that was hearing it as a felony refused to indict, so the prosecutors went with a misdemeanor that doesn’t require a grand jury indictment.
There were a few OTHER instances of grand juries refusing to indict other people accused on assaulting federal officers, but those were unrelated to the incident in question.
I’m not even sure it’s legal (…not that legality matters to this regime, I know) to shop grand juries … like that first paragraph implied, is it?
Here’s the dumb AI synopsis, but it adds sources:
A grand jury rejected the felony charge against the “sandwich thrower,” Sean Dunn, three times before prosecutors dropped the felony charge and pursued a misdemeanor. The grand jury in Washington D.C. twice refused to indict him on felony assault charges, and the third time they did so as well, according to CNBC and The Washington Post. Three rejections: Federal prosecutors failed to convince a grand jury to indict Dunn on felony assault charges on three separate occasions. Outcome of rejections: After the third rejection, prosecutors reduced the charge to a misdemeanor, which does not require a grand jury indictment. Final verdict: Dunn was later acquitted of the misdemeanor charge in a trial.
So they tried to indict him by Grand Jury three times, who rejected them. Then they downgraded the charge so they wouldn’t need a Grand Jury, and then they lost that case, too.
It seemed like when it was all over, the jurors agreed that the ICE cop crying about getting hit with a sandwich in his bulletproof vest was big whiney baby who should just FUCK OFF!
Something tells me this guy was pretty fed up with his employer anyway. Probably figured if he was going to get DOGEd, it might as well be for a reason. I’d wear that shit like a badge of honor, literally. They altered the Banksy art to show a guy throwing a sandwich, and I would put that on a T-shirt, and wear it everywhere - “Look! That’s ME!”
I own a business, and if that guy applied, I’d hire him instantly, even if he wasn’t qualified. I can always train anybody (except 2, that’s another story), but this guy is obviously a man of character, and that’s always welcome in my world.
Sandwich Guy is my Hero.
He threw it in protest. He was acquitted.
You know what to do next time you go to protest!
🌯 WOOOOOOOOOO!!! 🌯🌯
“Sandwich exploded”… :)
you ice PIGS are lucky it was a sandwich and not a molotov cocktail, or styrofoam fire cocktail,
Lairmore had testified that the sandwich “exploded all over” his chest and claimed he could smell mustard and onions. But a photo showed that the sandwich was still in its wrapper on the ground after it hit Lairmore in his bulletproof vest.
So he perjured himself, then? Surely something’s going to come of that? No? Huh, okay, then.
But you don’t understand! He felt the impact of the sandwich through his body armor!
If the sandwich did not split, you must acquit!
comment of the century.
You missed your calling in life. This comment would have blown up the legal world if said in court.
Im sad it wasn’t done.
So I was on a jury. The officer involved testified on some things that made it sound very bad for the defendant.
Then we saw the body cam of part the interaction. Technically what he said was true but extremely exaggerated. Made us discount everything he said that wasn’t on video.
We ended thinking the defendant was probably guilty but they didn’t prove it so we decided not guilty.
Thats how the jury i was on went but it was before body cams. Basically they said dude was “exchanging small packages for money” implying he was dealing drugs. The cops claimed he tossed the “small packages” when he drove off. They never collected these “small packages” so how do i know what they were?
We all thought dude was probably guilty but that the police work was too shoddy to convict. Cop looked pissed on the way out of court.
He also claimed he felt it through his Kevlar vest. Didn’t know sandwiches are more powerful than bullets.
Sandwiches can melt steel beams, didn’t you know?
Bush did Jimmy/Johns.
To be fair he was a little bitch, and little bitches feel everything.
This circus will be a part of Why veterans hate ICE.
Is
Is a little bitch
ironic since they’re heartless
There is a big difference between being able to feel something and being injured by it.
Indeed. Conservation of energy means he definitely felt it, just spread out over his entire torso, bouncing off harmlessly.
It hit him right in the fee fees, and badly damaged his already fwagile mascuwinity.
You need special plating to handle those sub-sonic sandwiches.
To be fair, while wearing one you can feel someone lightly patting you on the chest. I’m sure he did feel it but no way on earth did it hurt.
Yeah, the vest distributes pressure, but doesn’t stop it. It’s not a magical force shield. You can still feel things… If someone pokes you, you feel it pushing on your chest. But you feel it with your whole chest, not just where they poked.
He also claimed he felt it through his Kevlar vest. Didn’t know sandwiches are more powerful than bullets.
Clearly this was a Subway sandwich with an armor piercing tungsten penetrator ingredient. Evidence submitted by the prosecution cited Subway corporation’s recent advertising campaign featuring the slogan “I can’t get enough of that tungsten!”. This branding campaign was, of course, a backpedal from Subway’s previous offering of a Depleted Uranium penetrator which was largely shunned by sandwich consumers as being ‘unhealthy’. /s
It’s a feeling
Kevlar doesn’t stop feelings 🥹
Cops do it constantly. TBH I’d chalk that level of bullshit up to them constantly using ChatGPT to write their reports now, except that they’ve been pulling the same bullshit forever and getting away with it nearly every single time.
I firmly believe that police officer testimony that can’t be backed up by bodycam footage shouldn’t even be admissible. There’s essentially no reason for a cop to not have their bodycam turned on at all times unless they specifically chose to turn it off, so there’s no reason we should have to accept testimony without it.
They should be immediately investigated if they ever turn it off for any reason.
I’d take it a step further and say that police testimony without body cam footage should be outright exculpatory. If the prosecutor is allowing a cop to testify without also trying to admit the footage, it should be grounds for the defense to get the charges dismissed with prejudice.
Wasn’t there a case of police officers badly beating someone and then claiming his blood stains on their uniforms were destruction of police property or some such?
My neighbor was a retired cop turned gun dealer. One time while I was chatting with him, he mentioned that back in the 70’s and 80’s, he and his buddies used to claim “the defendant violently groined me in the knee, causing injury” on their police reports. In other words, they’d knee someone in the crotch, then say the person attacked them with their groin.
I’m not aware of that specific case, but yeah that tracks. I’ve read about incidents where the cops were enraged about things like victims of traffic accidents or assaults by officers being soaked in blood, getting it on them, and stating that they ‘didn’t want to risk getting hepatitis/AIDS’ as justification for declining to provide lifesaving medical intervention. In some cases, the delay in care led to deaths, while they stood by, and weren’t censured by their departments.
They’ve been using seizures from acute health incidents and tazers both as justification for escalation of force because “suspects were resisting” for quite a while.
I actually just learned at work the other day that everyone who is a first responder as part of their job and therefore may be exposed to blood borne pathogens is required by OSHA to be offered a full Hepatitis B vaccination paid for entirely by the employer.
These officers claiming they don’t want to risk Hep B either declined a free vaccination and therefore created that risk for themselves or they’re fully vaccinated and just making excuses to not do their job
Agreed, they know the risks and should know better, but that’s what the situation has come to in some jurisdictions where it’s impossible to keep on qualified personnel for (relatively) low salaries. “You get what you pay for” incarnate.
officers […] stating that they ‘didn’t want to risk getting hepatitis/AIDS’ as justification for declining to provide lifesaving medical intervention.
Motherfucker, if you’re first aid/CPR trained, you are supposed to have appropriate PPE with or near you while on your job that will see you encounter such situations. If you don’t, that’s negligence on your part, and if you’re just choosing not to use it so you don’t have to get involved, you need to be taken off that job.
It’s my moment to remember Elijah McClain. Rest in peace, you beautiful soul.
Jesus Christ. Wikipedia has his last words. They’re spoilered in case you don’t want your day ruined
Last Words
According to body cam audio, these were McClain’s last words as he was restrained by police officers: "I can’t breathe. I have my ID right here. My name is Elijah McClain. That’s my house. I was just going home. I’m an introvert. I’m just different. That’s all. I’m so sorry. I have no gun. I don’t do that stuff. I don’t do any fighting. Why are you attacking me? I don’t even kill flies! I don’t eat meat! But I don’t judge people, I don’t judge people who do eat meat. Forgive me. All I was trying to do was become better. I will do it. I will do anything. Sacrifice my identity, I’ll do it. You all are phenomenal. You are beautiful and I love you. Try to forgive me. I’m a mood Gemini. I’m sorry. I’m so sorry. Ow, that really hurt! You are all very strong. Teamwork makes the dream work. [after vomiting] Oh, I’m sorry, I wasn’t trying to do that. I just can’t breathe correctly.
Fuck, that was so brutal. Even given what I’ve learned about cops over the years, this case is particularly egregious, that poor fucking kid was murdered by pigs and paramedics with fucking ketamine of all things.
Everything about that case was horrifying, from the Koncerned Karen that called the police because he was being too Black on the street to the fact authorities tried to sweep the whole thing under the rug. The cops responsible even went to do selfies mocking Elijah on the anniversary of his death and a violin vigil was disbanded as if it were a looter mob after an earthquake.
And this to a human being that played the violin for shelter cats because they seemed to enjoy it. Elijah’s soul was so beautiful, it breaks my heart that he’s gone.
I can only hope to have such grace and kindness in my heart when the fascists kill me.
Fuck grace and kindness, at least enucleate their eye. Getting murdered IRL isn’t like in books, TV series or movies, you don’t just fall down like a sack of grain. It hurts the whole time, don’t forgive someone who’s trying to do it to you.
This should result in a Brady-Giglio impairment for the cop since it happened in open court. He should be done as a cop.
it is actually worth pursuing that…
even just posting comments about that on every news video about it on youtube would help.
we have a rare combination of undeniable, clear video evidence vs. sworn testimony in court that is unambiguously a lie.
There’s no real wiggle room on that.
Why not call prosecutors and annoy them? Or send letters to the judge?Such a delicate flower, isn’t he?
More like a snowflake ❄️
You can’t really perjure someones opinions or recollections, only a direct and provable lie. He says the sandwich ‘exploded’ and he could smell sandwich contents. He probably got some amount of sauce or something on him, even if he didn’t, photographs can’t prove with any certainty it did or did not happen and you certainly can’t disprove he could smell onions and mustard.
Border Patrol Officer Greg Lairmore received two “gag gifts” related to the incident — a plush sandwich and a patch featuring a cartoon of Dunn throwing the sandwich with the words “Felony Footlong” — which the defense team argued showed this was not a serious event in his life.
That is amazing.
Did John Oliver send those?
Continuing the great American tradition of jury nullification
here’s hoping Luigi and Tyler get off too for the same reason.
It’s actually pretty insane that this has happened, what, twice now in only a few weeks, both cases related to the fed occupations. I can’t even remember the last time an acquittal like this happened before that, though I don’t follow this stuff closely. I think OJ is the last one I’m aware of but that’s obviously a totally different situation. I was definitely expecting s different outcome, but good for him. I remember in the video they called him “Superman”, lol. I guess so!
They didn’t even say if the sandwich had ketchup or mustard in it. The combination can make a big difference in how the crime should be treated. What if it had Mayo! Has anyone stopped to think about that?
My education is in the works. Is this actually an example of jury nullification? Like, what he did was actually illegal, but the jury presumably, thought the law was unjust? Or is throwing a sandwich at ICE just not illegal?
He threw an object in hostility at a (supposed) federal employee, which could be assault. Jury said no, because they can.
It is, by the letter of the law, assault (and battery, if that’s a separate thing there). But the jury is not bound in any way as to whether they find a defendant guilty or not guilty.
There was a pretty locally big felony murder case. Some Norteños jumped some Sureños. The Norteños had bats. One of the Sureños had a gun. One of the Norteños died.
Now, under stone principle I don’t understand and can’t remember what it’s called, when you start committing a crime, any crimes that occur as a direct consequence are attributable to the party that began the illegal actions. So the Norteños went on trial for felony murder for shooting their own fellow gang member (since the Sureños could reasonably argue self defense and the DA wanted to do something about gang violence, they prosecuted the Norteños) even though a Sureño pulled the trigger.
I learned it’s difficult to get a conviction from a fair jury for felony murder when you “started it”. They were acquitted.
Not a lawyer but my reading of it is that, in other context, this fact pattern could theoretically lead to a conviction. It is hard to imagine a sandwich causing actual harm, though, so it is probably unethical to have even brought charges knowing it is such bullshit.
The fact that this guy had to go to court at all to defend himself is just asinine. These dumb fascist fucks are a bunch of thin skinned bullies.
Have no worries… If the current Reich has its way, and so far it seems it has, they’ll not have to go to court anymore…
Not really sure its because they are thin skinned. Its part of the facist playbook. You have to make an example of anyone that steps out of line.
It’s also a pretty clear example of SLAPP prosecution.
I thought SLAPP was for civil cases though?
I’m not referring to any specific legislation, more the concept. It’s designed to discourage people from participating in the legal system at all.
SLAPP is designed to prevent people like Trump from using the legal system to silence and otherwise harm critics.
I’m pretty sure he is talking about the concept it represents where the corrupt justice system is now being overly punitive in a attempt to silence the public. Same thing just no similar law to control the prosecution.
This is clearly judicial harrassment … this prosecutor is now likely to lose his job. If sandwich guy is smart he will sue about 4-5 different people/groups.
DC is practicing Jury Nullification … wondering if the Juries there would steamroll these lawsuits forward.
This was a HUGE waste of OUR hard earned tax dollars. This should NEVER have gone to trial. I’m embarrassed to call myself an American.
Any time the prosecution wasted on this is time not spent on something else
I’m sorry you had to waste your time, but thank you for your service sub sandwich guy 🫡
Good point! If they are going to use up our resources anyways, its probably best they are as inefficient and incompetent as possible. Plus, there’s the added benefit that the prosecutor and agency have further damaged their credibility - possible ammo for future defense cases.
A jury of the defendant’s peers just said “FUCK YOU!”
We could only aspire to all have such dope peers
🎶There goes my hero… Watch him as he throws! 🎵
