• calango@programming.dev
    8·
    42 minutes ago

    this guy wouldn’t pay for sex

    Software is like sex; it’s better when it’s free. Torvalds Linus

  • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    128·
    3 hours ago

    By this logic, anyone who doesn’t believe in Marxist Leninism shouldn’t use Lemmy. I don’t like Windows for other reasons, but the personal life of the person who made it should not be a factor at all. You would in fact be severely limited if you only used products made entirely by people who are ‘perfect’ in every way.

    • Mangoholic@lemmy.ml
      42·
      1 hour ago

      Did you just put someone wanting to better people’s lives through his critic of capitalism as the same as being a billionaire pedophile.

    • brachiosaurus@mander.xyz
      61·
      2 hours ago

      but the personal life of the person who made it should not be a factor at all.

      The data windows collects about you goes in the hands of people involved in a pedo sexual abuse scandal. You should be indeed concerned

    • el_eh_chase@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      31·
      2 hours ago

      If we were talking about a company that makes toasters or bicycles or something I might agree with you. When it comes to an OS though, that’s where you store all your personal information and interact with your digital life. An OS can be updated to include malicious features and backdoors. The morality of the executives at the company making the OS could have a direct effect on you, moral arguments aside.

    • pineapple@lemmy.mlEnglish
      11·
      2 hours ago

      Take it a bit more lightly my guy. 1st It was a joke. 2nd it was stated as a reason to use linux not the sole statement that makes windows completely irrelevent.

    • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      3 hours ago

      He’s right that we shouldn’t infantilise teenagers by calling them ‘children’, lumping them in with prepubescent children as if there’s no difference between them.

    • cub Gucci@lemmy.today
      163·
      7 hours ago

      Something that the society achieved in the last 150 years are two dogmas:

      • 5/7 8 hours workweek is a maximum
      • people before 18 should not have sex with people after 18

      I’m kinda glad that questioning these puts one into a category of weirdos.

    • dandylion@lemmy.zip
      31·
      7 hours ago

      thank you. very important to share here.

      unfortunately I’ve heard similar phrasings and ideas expressed by 20- and 30-something year olds in the gaming community. still has me feeling unwell.

  • AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip
    47·
    11 hours ago

    Linus would be too busy chewing Epstein out in a mailing list and then banning him from it permanently if they were friends.

  • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
    78·
    13 hours ago

    I’m genuinely baffled how many oligarchs had contact with Epstein. I do believe their primary job qualification is a lack of morals, but there’s so many ways to be amoral, you don’t have to all be friends with the guy that offers pedophilia.

    • herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml
      21·
      6 hours ago

      Epstein was not just a pedo pimp. He was a power-broker and a fixer for the American and Israeli rich elites. Not everyone was in for the girls, some of them were in for the other illegal stuff.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 hours ago

      Pre 2008 conviction contacts can be excused by ignorance. E.g. Stephen Hawking visited Epstein Island with other scientists in 2006.

      Gates was happy to make house visits to Epstein in 2011-2014

    • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
      221·
      8 hours ago

      Beyond just the pedophilia, his (Epstein) operation was largely one of socialising, and securing (probably coerced) introductions from people he helped facilitate and now held blackmail over.

      e.g. using blackmail material on a Bill Gates to secure an introduction to another wealthy and influential individual, offering them a “massage” and then producing kompromat at a later date to bring them into his circle.

      Now don’t get me wrong, everyone who found themselves in this position was a willing participant, not a victim - but I can understand how so many oligarchs eventually found their way into his little black book.

    • Avicenna@programming.dev
      9·
      7 hours ago

      Just oligarchs? Oligarchs don’t suprise me at all. The more surprising aspect is so many artists, scientists etc. I guess humans have a weakness for someone who makes them feel like a privileged member of a boy’s club.

      • 3abas@lemmy.world
        101·
        5 hours ago

        Noam Chomsky, that’s what broke my faith in humanity. His work in linguistics is why I’m a computer scientist, his work in political activism was my introduction to leftist theory, so much of what I do and think every day is directly influenced by his work.

        Turns out at the end of the day he’s a neo-liberal apartheid supporting hypocrite and possibly a pedophile.

        • Avicenna@programming.dev
          1·
          58 minutes ago

          Yeah it sucks. Don’t know if you are still in the field but I guess best reaction to this would be to set a better example in your corner of the world. Take what is good leave what is shitty and make sure to inform people who don’t know.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
      571·
      13 hours ago

      What this whole thing has taught me is that there is a market among billionaires for someone to peddle enslaved kids.

      Now epstein is gone, and has been for years, but that demand doesn’t just die. I don’t have proof, but there is zero doubt in my mind that epstein is not a one and done. There’s either another epstein, or more likely a dozen smaller epsteins out there.

      There’s a part of me that thinks all these ICE abducting kids is being done at trumps order, specifically as a means to replace epstein.

      • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
        22·
        10 hours ago

        There has been lot of information released indicating Epstein’s child trafficking ring was barely impacted by his absence. He had lots of conspirators, most of whom are probably still at it, nevermind all of the Mossad, KGB, and CIA cooperation.

        • Birds are not real@lemmy.world
          11·
          7 hours ago

          The only logical explanation I have found about it is by learning about Frankism from Professor Jiang and his youtube channel Predictive history.

          • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
            3·
            7 hours ago

            I’ll check it out, but it seems pretty straightforward to me. When a social class sits outside the rules the rest of society is expected to live by, they get entitled and they get bored. Since they aren’t entirely immune to public opinion, they also become easy targets for blackmail as they push towards more and more “exclusive” forms of “entertainment”.

            • Birds are not real@lemmy.world
              12·
              7 hours ago

              I advise you do and it may get a bit more difficult to follow but your comment is partly right yes. The only aspect of it that differs is that it is a form of acquiring knowledge, because knowledge of god means knowledge of the sins. Through sinning you acquire understanding of why sins are wrong and the more you sin, the more valid your faith is unlike the faith of someone who has never sinned and therefore has no innate understanding of why sinning is wrong. It is a very strange cult but it is the only one that explains logically why powerful entities choose to commit things like the ones epstein did and there is a lot of goddamn powerful maniacs that have been proven to be true frankist and believe the nonsense it is.

              • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
                2·
                6 hours ago

                Sounds to me like a rationalization for what I suggested. I’m not saying they don’t believe it but, in my experience, the main predictor of what people believe is what they want to believe. People decide how they want to live, then construct a belief system to justify it.

                • Birds are not real@lemmy.world
                  11·
                  10 minutes ago

                  Your point reminds me of the logic behind certain religious psychologies that see this world not as an end in itself, but as a proving ground or a purgatorial space. Its morality is sometimes inverted for a higher, otherworldly purpose.

                  Take public execution in medieval Christian Europe. While a spectacle of deterrence, some theologians (like Nicholas of Cusa aka who I picture rubbing my rod at night) grappled with a darker rationale: that the intense physical pain of burning could serve as a form of accelerated penance. The idea was that this suffering might pay the temporal debt of sin before death, potentially sparing the soul a longer, more severe punishment in the afterlife. The executioner, in this context, was performing an act of supposed spiritual charity, which is actually why executioners were often clergy or faith oriented men.

                  This mirrors,the core doctrine of Frankism, an 18th-century Jewish heretical movement. Frankists believed in ‘redemption through sin.’ Their goal was at times personal regret, but a cosmological acquisition of a higher knowledge. The pleasure or suffering of the sinner was incidental to this divine path to regret and penance.

                  We see a third variant in groups like ISIS. When they stoned Muslims for adultery, it was framed as enacting divine law to purify the community and offer the sinner ritual atonement. When they cut the throats of Western captives, the logic switched entirely to theater of terror, a spectacle for global distancing (stay in your country, as a result of the frequent invasions of countries from west asia), but also because in Islam, the act of cutting through the neck artery is seen as a quick and painless death. It causes death quickly because oxygen output runs out very fast and is why it is the mandatory way of making meat halal, part of it is to use a quick, simple and relatively painless death.

                  The unifying, and strangely rational, thread is this: when reality is viewed through an eschatological or cosmological lens, worldly concepts of pleasure, pain, and even morality become secondary. Acts are judged not by their immediate human cost, but by their function in a grand narrative of spiritual war, purification, or redemption. It’s a logic that operates on a plane completely separate from humanist rationale because humans are not the end all be all.

    • M137@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 hours ago

      I actually made three new friends on new years eve completely through mentioning Linux. We were at a party and I had a really bad year last year so I was rusty in the “talking to people” department, the few people I knew there, who are indie games devs that don’t use Linux, said something (can’t remember exactly what) that made me reply with a Linux joke and those three people moved their chairs closer to me with a “ooooh, a linux nerd, let’s fucking go” energy. We went on such a nerd dive that they party host told us that we aren’t allowed to talk Linux anymore or we’d have to leave.
      We talked a lot more through the night and had to really concentrate to not get thrown out, haha.

    • degen@midwest.socialEnglish
      4·
      7 hours ago

      Another contributor who doesn’t have wildly differing political ideals from your own, I think?

    • ray@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      103·
      15 hours ago

      It’s a class that’s allowed to access another class’s private members. Obviously Linus doesn’t have any, because he codes in C.

      • Redkey@programming.dev
        9·
        9 hours ago

        Private members aren’t actively blocked from external access; they’re passively marked “Access prohibited”.

        That means that rather than being unable to find the members of a class, C programmers simply can’t pick up on the signals telling them that they’re not wanted.

        (Fellow C programmers: I’m joking. :D)

    • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
      221·
      13 hours ago

      It’s a second user account on your machine. Of course, you don’t put them in the sudoers file.

  • PryDer@lemmy.world
    16·
    4 hours ago

    Sadly, Linux has a lot of issues on my laptop that I’m not able to fix. When they’ll implement new drivers in the kernel I’ll try again…

  • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
    45·
    15 hours ago

    If he’s in the files it’s strictly to tear Jeffers apart for submitting a shit code patch and wasting his time.