Eh, im not comfortable with the scouts being associated with such a sketchy organization anyway.
Does Hegseth know that the scouts aren’t part of the military and they’re a private organization? I’m just wondering because he doesn’t know much, especially when it comes to the military.
I don’t think Hegseth knows which side is up on any given day of the week.
Bitch, please. They weren’t scared of the Mormons, and they took an even bigger financial hit for breaking up with them. You think they’re gonna be scared of you? In this climate, the instant they announce cutting ties with you, fucking Taylor Swift or Mark Ruffalo will swoop in.
Imagine being so invested in the extracurriculars of other people’s kids
Hell, these are the same people that are obsessed with where other people poop.
Also, Hegseth concerns himself with facial hair, so…
The Pentagon funds the scouts? FFS…
Ah yes, return to the roots of boys will be boys
In February 2020, the Boy Scouts of America filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. By the end of that year more than 82,000 former Scouts had come forward with claims of sexual abuse that took place during their time as members of the organization — meaning, of course, when they were minors. Their claims span across decades and generations, all over the United States.
Gender fluid is what Hegseth guzzles at airport bathrooms.
In long, stringy ropes.
When there is Jesus, little kids get fondled. Fucking disgusting.
I don’t think the scouts in the US started as religious (or at least not strongly religious), but there was plenty of molestation going on even back then. Or maybe I’m not remembering everything correctly–it’s been awhile since I listened to the Behind the Bastards episodes on it
It was started by Baden Powell in the UK. He wrote a book called “scouting for boys”. A lot of scoutmasters took that literally.
The MAGA asswipes would like to transform the Boy Scouts into their version of the Hitler Youth, Young Pioneers and other fucked-up youth groups for brainwashing purposes.
The Mormons used it specifically for indoctrinating young men into their own cult for decades. They were BSA’s biggest sponsor for fucking ever, since participating was mandatory for Mormon boys. Breaking ties with the Mormons over gay rights was a big fucking deal.
Republicans will do literally anything to avoid actually governing.
This is the truth. It’s stupid culture war shit all the way down with these guys. Harmful stuff that will do nothing but help a few angry incels jerk off to “owning the libs”, but providing nothing of value to anyone in the country except for billionaires.
They are really afraid of girls who know how to castrate.
I would like to point out that Kegsbreath was not a Scout.
Also, even if he was, how having girls in the Scouts affects him, personally, is a real mystery.
I was in scouts. People brought their sisters to meetings all the time. They joined in whatever we were doing and it was fine. I also went on a couple girl scout trips. I don’t even remember how that happened but we had a fun time. Most of the girls I met as a kid and remained friends with through my teens I met through scouts. Good experiences all around.
He thinks boys should only meet girls in college by roofieing them.
The relationship between Scouting and the Pentagon is also codified in law, which states that the Pentagon must seek a waiver from Congress if the military intends to cut its support, and explain why giving that assistance “would be detrimental to the national security of the United States”.
I love how they tag this minor detail onto the very end where they have to publicly justify it to congress rather than just doing whatever autocratic whim they feel like.
Why does the military have anything to do with scouts?
If you get eagle scout you get a small raise when you join the military, same as if you had an associates degree.
You recieve the same bonus for a few different things. I think the girl scouts gold award and sea scouts quartermaster award give the same enlistment rank bonus.
Well yes, because all of those are certificates of auxiliary training befitting a soldier.
Scouts does do a really good job of preparing kids for the military if they so choose. Many of the hard and soft skills it teaches are very military-esque. Or put another way, I was chatting with another parent who’s oldest just joined the military at 18 and they said the training is just like scouts and credited scouts with preparing them well for the military
It’s not really teaching Boys to Scout, it’s a program that is Scouting for Boys who are likely to do well in situations similar to the military, albeit a less modern one than exists today.
If deployed in significant numbers those skills are almost as useful in a modern military as a century or two before. An Ukrainian or the Russian soldier didn’t need those skills in the barracks or having guard shifts, but it is sure nice to know now.
Telegraph is an absolute shitrag
This kind of policymaking brought to you by Tough Secure Manly Men, we swear
Making America safe by getting rid of the real threat from within, once and for all … girl scouts.
We need to get those Girl Scout cookies off the street.
Bruh the boy scouts are gay, always have been gay, nothing you can do about it. I know like a dozen eagle scouts and today 100% of them are gay or trans.
Yep lol, a decent chunk of the trans women I’ve slept with have been eagle scouts
Maybe they worry this is where the trans learn to shoot.
At least Scouts teach firearm safety, which clearly ICE skipped in their rush to terrorize neighborhoods
The real enemy to America all along…Girl Scouts and their cookies. /s
Scouts = boyscouts. Girls scouts is far worse and they’re not associated.
GS are just cookie dealers that sometimes go camping. Between my two kids each being one or both programs the GS spend 70% of their meetings and time together talking about and planning cookie sales. The Scouts go on twice as many camping trips and only fund raise around Christmas. But one kid whom is in the more camp group is in the richer areas troop meanwhile the GS is in the lower income area so they tend to just try to make money.
My point in GS is for the kids you want to someday be in sales and the Scouts are for the kids who want to experience the outdoors.
I was attending the informational sessions from both GirlScouts and Scouts while trying to make the call for our daughter and the tone shift was jarring, where GirlScouts it was all “we’re going to sell cookies and learn important things you need to know as a girl” and became honestly kinda sexist and just tried to badmouth Scouts when I asked how it compares. Meanwhile Scouts it was just “look we’re going to go hiking and camping and make a race car to race and have fun!” (and had the exact same answer when I asked how Scouts compares to GirlScouts)
So yeah we ultimately went with the more inclusive option that didn’t recoil at the idea of her wanting her brother who she adores to join and didn’t turn to badmouthing the alternative when asked how they compare. And guess what, she’s having a blast and it feels weird that it was ever a gendered thing in the first place!
Girl Scouts is terfy af, too.
A big part of the problem with girl scouts, in my opinion, is that a lot of the time the troops are kind of temporary.
Usually group of girls and their parents (usually moms, who may or may not have any scouting experience of their own) start up a troop, more-or-less from scratch when the girls are brownie or daisy-aged, and then that’s pretty much it, they don’t really do any ongoing recruitment, it stays just those same girls until they all either quit or age out of the program and then the troop dissolves.
Meanwhile, the (boy scout) troop I came up through is going to be celebrating its 100 year anniversary in a year or two. They have a garage full of troop gear, money in the bank, and decades of institutional knowledge of how to be a scout and how to run a scout program. We had one or two kids whose or father and I think even grandfather had earned their eagle from the same troop, the current scoutmaster was in the troop a couple years before me and his kids are in it now, the one before him was already scoutmaster when I started before his kid was old enough to join and stayed on for a few years after his son aged out, and every year we got a new batch of kids joining, some years more than others sure, but there was always new blood coming in
So there’s a lot more continuity and something like generational wealth going on with the BSA. Girl scouts generally need to hit the cookies and fundraising hard because they’re often kind of starting from 0 (not that there isn’t some valid criticism about how the cookie sales work and how the money is distributed and used, but I don’t know enough about that to really go into it)
And as far as recruitment, boy scouts made it really easy to find a troop, there’s a website you can go on and find all of the ones near you, so if your kid just suddenly wanted to join, or if you moved and needed to find a new one it was dead simple to look that up. At least at the time when I was in, girl scouts didn’t really have anything similar, unless you were already in the know about when and where the existing troops met you were kind of SOL if you wanted to join one. I remember one of our leaders talking about some sort of community event they were trying to put together, they had some representatives from a couple other local organizations and other scout troops and such coming, and they wanted to see if any of the local girl scout troops would want to take part, but he just couldn’t get in touch with any of them, couldn’t find contact info, when he reached out to their local council they basically stonewalled him
And unfortunately just by the nature of it usually being the moms who are the involved parents with girl scouts as opposed to usually the dads, with boy scouts there’s often a bit less outdoorsy knowledge to build on (some of my best hiking/camping/fishing buddies are women, but until I was the one who started inviting them out, a lot of them had never done much that kind of thing, and unfortunately that’s not a terribly uncommon situation, whereas guys tend to be more likely to grow up doing that sort of thing with their dads)
All that said, I’ve known a decent amount of girl scouts, and while a lot of them got stuck with shitty programs, there were a handful that actually probably went harder than we did in boy scouts. The odds aren’t exactly in your favor of ending up in one of those girl scout troops, but with the right parents, kids, and resources they actually can put on a really good outdoor program (and their campgrounds are usually really nice as well) they just don’t have the systems in place to make sure that all of their troops are able to do that to the same extent boy scouts can.
This is an extremely well thought-out comment. As someone with experience in both camps (literally), you hit the nail on the head here.
Scouting America teaches kids how to be soldiers. Girl Scouts teaches girls how to be ruthless boardroom headhunters.
So really, the difference is minimal.
Girl Scouts is much more troop driven than boy scouts. It kind of sounds like your girl’s troop leader just isn’t very motivated.
Heh, then I guess Cub Scouts are popcorn dealers that sometimes go camping. :)
GS are trans inclusive. So.
You sure?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/boy-scouts-will-allow-transgender-children-180961982/
I do agree GS has far better messaging and consistency on it though.
Well . . . Yeah. In the article it says
By allowing transgender scouts, the organization now joins the Girl Scouts of America, an unaffiliated scouting group, in its policies toward gender identity. In 2015, Girl Scouts USA confirmed that it indeed welcomes transgender scouts—a position that was challenged openly when a donor pledged $100,000 with the stipulation that it not support transgender girls. The organization turned down the donation, set up a campaign called “Girl Scouts Is For Every Girl,” and then raised more than $338,000 from donors supportive of transgender girl scouts. Girl Scouts USA’s official policy is that, though troop placement depends on the best interests of the child, kids who are recognized by their family and live in a community as a girl can enroll as Girl Scouts.
So fucking weird that they care so much.
Culture war BS to distract the MAGA base from the class war.
I think anyone butthurt about having girls in Scouts has a very tiny penis. I don’t have an explanation for the women obsessed with this kind of thing, though.
If you are not a kid in Scouts or you are not a parent involved in Scouts, this affects you how? The right is obsessed with all sorts of shit that does not affect them in the least. They’ll take up this kind of cause, all while they cannot afford to get by in this economy. It’s so fucking stupid.
Their low-information voters care about this shit.
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