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Read a bit lower, and there are promises of perks galore: competitive compensation, free meals, free gym membership, free health and dental care and so on. But then comes the catch.
Each job ad contains a warning: “Please don’t join if you’re not excited about… working ~70 hrs/week in person with some of the most ambitious people in NYC.”
The website belongs to Rilla, a New York-based tech business which sells AI-based systems that allow employers to monitor sales representatives when they are out and about, interacting with clients.
The company has become something of a poster child for a fast-paced workplace culture known as 996, also sometimes referred to as hustle culture or grindcore.
In simple terms, it puts a premium on long working hours, typically 9am to 9pm, six days a week (hence “996”).
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Nothing says they have a successful AI product as much as needing your staff to work 70 hour weeks. Shouldn’t AI startups be advertising how their staff are so efficient they only work 10 hours a week but do their full performance?
The irony is that yet a serious study has to state that those working hours even make sense productivity wise. Usually people get tired, burned out and make more mistakes…
No.
You see? The work-week is 40 hour. Anything after that is a no go for me unless extreme cases happen. In fact, we have laws here limiting the number of extra hours that can be done a year to 200-something. I’d run out of extra hours for the year in a month.
In fact, the correct approach is to ask your employees why are they doing overtime. My boss will ask why I stayed for later than my shift if I do overtime. Not because it’s a bad thing, but because, if I do on a regular basis, it means we are understaffed and he needs to hire someone else.
But I realize I live in a developed country, with rights and all that socialist stuff.
Nobody sane is excited about working 70+ hour weeks, you vile bastards.
The website belongs to Rilla, a New York-based tech business which sells AI-based systems that allow employers to monitor sales representatives when they are out and about, interacting with clients.
Gross.
Overtime rules are 50% wage after 40 hours except for management (based on job duties, not whether or not you’re salaried) and certain professions paid at least a certain wage.
996 is a 72 hour week, so 32 of overtime being paid at time-and-a-half. Which means 48 pay-hours, on top of the regular 40 means… Uh… Eww.
I think I’ll just skip to the end and assume anyone advocating 996 is a racist dirtbag, thank you very much. (In addition to being an exploitive bootlicker…)
I don’t think it’s racist. That’s probably just a coincidence. But it’s definitely stupid and I guarantee you they don’t pay overtime. I don’t think you’re required to pay overtime for salaried employees.
The “correct” word for salary is usually “exempt employee”, as in exempt for overtime pay.
This isn’t always a bad thing. Some jobs need exempt employees because they run on call rotations and so forth, and if your employer isn’t a dickhead it can genuinely be done fairly with highly flexible hours and pay to match.
Of course, dickhead employers are a dime a dozen…
Some jobs need exempt employees
I disagree. You work X hours, you get paid for X hours. Would the company do any work for free for its costumers? I’m sure every hour of work will be billed.
