The footage of the fatal shooting of Alex Jeffrey Pretti, said one journalist, “shows that the final act of his life was trying to help a woman who was being physically assaulted by the masked agents who would then kill him.”

In the original video of the shooting of a man in Minneapolis, identified by the Minneapolis Star Tribune at 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a woman in a pink coat was seen in the background filming the incident with her phone.

Drop Site News obtained footage that appeared “to come from the direction of the woman in pink filming from the sidewalk” and showed the shooting at a closer distance than the footage taken from inside Glam Doll Donuts.

In the video, the shooting victim, dressed in a brown coat and pants, is seen filming a federal agent with his phone. He’s then seen guiding another person toward the sidewalk as the agent forcefully shoves a third person to the ground.

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    Doesn’t matter to the MAGAts, they will just disobey the evidence of their eyes, as the party tells them.

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      This will become the next election-fraud-style loyalty test. If you state publicly that you don’t see manslaughter in the video, you’ve proven your loyalty to the great leader.

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      They are MAGA. The Republican Party is dead, that was just the larval stage, before it morphed into its final form - MAGA. We should only refer to the Republican Party from a historical or scholarly perspective.

      They are ALL MAGA now.

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        Things I thought I’d never say: I miss the Republicans of the eighties. They were all a mix of absolute cowards, grifters, and idiots, but the new MAGA party that has replaced them manages to consistently be even worse.

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    Everyone remember to keep getting more people onto Piefed and Lemmy (Voyager for Lemmy) along with Session, Signal, XMPP, Mastodon, Stoat, Pixelfed, etc etc. The more of us on here the better

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      Yep! Social media is deleting content. Reddit is deleting posts. Tiktok is now under Trump’s finger.

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        All good we got this. Whatever person we get on is a huge thing to the movement. Also stay well Buller!

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      Just bear in mind that many Fediverse instances are in Europe and Europe has no free speech culture. EG In Germany, people who upload videos of police are commonly prosecuted for GDPR violations. It violates the fundamental rights of the police officers. When European activists oppose Big Tech in the name of democracy, they want more censorship; more government control.

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        Oh piss off. We have legislation against hate speech. You know because it led to millions of deaths in our continent. The disgraceful state of your country is a direct consequence of your asinine interpretations about free speech.

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        Please dont boil it down to this. It is perfectly legal to post videos of police in Germany, you just have to obscure the faces of all people in the video that did not consent to it being publicy available. Furthermore, the spoken word has additonal protections in place. Yes, the european data protection legislation can be difficult to navigate, but bear in mind that it focuses on the personal rights of ALL people, even police. However there is still the possibility to publish material unedited if it has cultural or historical significance. Of couse this would go to court, but hey: At least we have courts to settle those matters transparently. KG Berlin – Az.: 2 ORs 31/23 – 121 Ss 130/23 – Urteil vom 30.11.2023

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          Right. Merely making the recording may already be criminal; not only sharing it. I didn’t want to sound too alarmist. But when we’re ad it. Pixelating the faces means processing personal data which may already be illegal.

          What it boils down to is this: If some lawless government goons arrest anyone recording their deeds and seized their phones, no honest, law-abiding judge or police officer would see a problem with that. Anyone live-streaming, just in case, would be guilty of violating fundamental rights in the eyes of all defenders of European values. The government could rely on the technical and organizational infrastructure to enforce GDPR to suppress inconvenient videos without bending the law.

          But no problem. Freedom of information is in the constitution. So you just go to court and insist on your right. Of course, a far right government will have packed the highest courts with its people, and so you lose. Well, everyone has rights. Freedom of information isn’t everything. No problem there.

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            You clearly have no legal training and know nothing about EU law or the national legal systems of its members, many which go back to ancient Roman law.

            Go back to school, JD.

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        The so-called activists you are exposed to that are backed by powerful interests do indeed try to get more censorship.

        They have plenty of real activists I would add just as an aside, the ones fighting chat control and age checks and other such Trojan horses they are trying to bring inside too rat fuck the internet.

        It is just we are fighting organized monied groups as disparate peoples, so the organized efforts to id every ip and account in europe with id and likeness and run it all through ai threat detection owned by palantir types to make secret social scores that will secretly determine everything from your job prospects, police attention, loans, to prices charged and even what info search engines show you, that all seems like activist groups because we have at most banded into public interest groups fighting rearguard and woeking disparatly off of guerilla reporters’ scoops,while they have a well funded and orchestrated plan using groups like protecct the children with studies they commission and lawmakers they leased and media they are in league with or indeed own.

        It is tech behind a lot of it. Even opposing big tech, is oftentimes schemes to surrender to big tech, as is chatcontrol and age checks.

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    People forget that the earth is a world of chaos where the biggest free for all in all of our universe, that we know of, exists.

    The fact that humans tried to impose a fake order in that chaos is just an anomaly.

    Embrace chaos.

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    Sooooo is it just Minnesota that’s going to oppose this gestapo shit? Or nah.

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        Oh my god, that is dense. Seems like a hazard almost, if someone were to require medical assistance in the middle of that, they would have a hard time scattering people.

        Also, at first I thought that was AI generated lol. Is it real? (I’m so annoyed that I have to ask.)

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    I’ve read that Alex was a veteran. So he probably participated in overseas operations and survived against whoever he fought against for his country, only to be executed in his own town by what is probably a frustrated basement dweller without any more accomplishment in his life than insulting kids on CoD and gooning ten times a day.

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      Cite that claim. I’m not saying your wrong, but to my knowledge, he was a nurse working at a VA medical facility, rather than a veteran himself.

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        Sorry I don’t have a reliable source on that. I just read it on the Minnesota subreddit, someone who was explaining who he was. They said that he served in the air force, and then worked as a nurse for veterans.

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          Ok, I think I found the source of that discrepancy. He was a member of “AFGE”, the American Federation of Government Employees.

          Being unfamiliar with that organization, I initially thought “AFGE” might have been an Air Force organization. I suspect someone else might have made this same initial assumption.

          This comment thread is the only indication I’ve seen that he was associated with the military in any aspect other than his work for the VA.

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        A lot of the folks working at the VA happen to be veterans. I’m not confirming or denying anything here, just saying there’s a strong correlation.

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      Not exactly probably. Remember that around 1/3 of veterans, such as myself a former Navy Nuke Instructor, never went overseas. Also of the ones that do go to another country, 90% are support staff and never see active combat. He would have been one of those, as he would have been a corpsman, (nurse or doctor,).and would have been serving at a hospital.

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        veterans, such as myself a former Navy Nuke Instructor

        A bit off-topic, have you heard either of the Wake-ups episodes[1][2] from the Eyes Left podcast? And if so, do they resonate with your experiences in the force?

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      So he probably participated in overseas operations

      What’s with Americans and their euphemisms when it comes to serving in the military

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        I’m not in the US, that’s how we say “going to another country to perform military missions” in my country.

        And as much as I have a general dislike for the US foreign policy they did good things too. I’ve read that he worked in the air force so he could have participated in preventing ISIS from killing more innocent and enslaving ethnic minorities by targeting their weapons depots a few years ago for example.

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        He probably went to another country and killed people. HOWEVER, if that’s true at least there’s a decent chance those people were armed and facing him, not pinned to the ground and shot in the back.

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          You’re almost correct. Almost 90% of veterans never saw front line combat. The sheer amount of support roles in the military is completely overlooked by fucking everyone.

          He went to another country. The fact that others are saying he was working as a nurse in his home town indicates that he was likely a corpsman, aka a military nurse that wasn’t killing anyone, he was working in the modern day version of a M.A.S.H. unit.

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    Alex Pretti was murdered.

    Say it with me. This was no “shooting.”

    And it’s going to keep happening again and again.

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    Looks like they are the ones starting a fight… and escalated… and murdered. Sigh. A complete set-up to fail. Stay strong over there.

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    Kristi Noem lying on TV this very moment about Alex Pretti and painting him as terrorist. And then claims the investigation will be performed. It seems to me they performed investigation 5 seconds after they put like 15 rounds into Alex. This shit needs Nuremberg type trials for entire current USA administration starting with Trump, all his hyenas and all the agents that murdered Alex and Renee. USA is a lawless wild west. They aren’t enforcing laws, they are playing Judge Dredd and interpret the laws pretty much randomly the way they feel, usually ending with innocent people dying. And then they continue lying about it. This is fucked.

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      Not to be overly Comic-book-guy but:

      Judge Dredd is never portrayed killing someone for his own gratification in 2000AD. He isn’t racist, or to my knowledge, even a classist.

      Yes, he is a ‘judge’ in an ultra violent society that devolves execution, due process and investigation to the officer on the beat.

      But no one is above the law as far as he concerned not even the judiciary. There probably isn’t a president of the US that he wouldn’t have arrested for their crimes, and quite a few he’d execute for their crimes against humanity. Trump wouldn’t have made it to this millennium.

      These ICE thugs are just cowardly fascist scum. Law is just a weapon of suppression to them. For Judge Dredd the law was sacred and the only thing preventing humanity from eating itself in his post apocalyptic future hellscape.

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        Him and The Punisher (who law enforcement tend to idolize) are people we shouldn’t wish for, but maybe people like them are sometimes required. When the justice system fails, who holds people accountable? If no one, then there’s nothing stopping evil people from doing whatever they want.

        We don’t want state officials working for vigilante justice, but occasionally in history someone does need to.

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      Alternately: is Kamala happy that she chose to openly defy her voting base and refuse to budge on Israel happy now?

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      Are the DNC fucks who refused to run a quality candidate or a quality campaign because that would upset their corporate donors happy now?

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        youre right but given the choice between a shit democrat candidate/campaign and this, the answer was incredibly obvious from the beginning and if anyone thought otherwise theyre a dumbass

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          The nation is filled with dumbasses. But also, it was gonna get here eventually anyway. “Being the lesser of two evils” DNC strategy just meant things kept getting worse even with Democrats in charge. Trump put kids in cages but Biden didn’t stop it. Obama killed American citizens with airstrikes. Every presidency was an escalation.

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            you chose “fascism definitely today” over “fascism maybe tomorrow”

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              I voted for Harris. How was voting for Harris “fascism definitely today”? You know something about Kamala I don’t? I assumed Trump was “fascism definitely today”

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                She should never have been nominated. Any woman is going to have an uphill battle even if they aren’t neoliberal scum, but both Hillary and Kamala were also neoliberal scum, so they never stood a chance.

                And every time a neoliberal bastard is placed in office their overt sliminess will swing the pendulum even harder toward the next big-talking, face-eating, would-be monarch that comes along and promises to do something, even if the something is mass murder, mass torture, isolationism, and foreign and domestic terror.

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              A lot of Americans chose “something different” over “more of the current shit that is slowly killing us”.

              Perhaps if they’d been offered another version of “something different” they wouldn’t have chosen Trump. Or maybe they would, because ultimately Trump embodies the real American dream for a lot of people.

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                shame about americans are getting shot in the street because of it i suppose

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

              “He was assassinated in Yemen in 2011 by a U.S. drone strike ordered by President Barack Obama. Al-Awlaki was the first U.S. citizen to be targeted and assassinated by a U.S. government drone strike.”

              The information available shows he was probably guilty of some serious crimes but he wasn’t killed on the battlefield and under US law, he was innocent until proven guilty.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki

              “According to the United States government, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki’s father, Anwar al-Awlaki, was a leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. Anwar al-Awlaki was killed by a CIA drone strike several days before his son’s death.”

              “Human rights groups questioned why Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was killed by the U.S. in a country with which the United States was not at war. Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union, stated “if the government is going to be firing Predator missiles at American citizens, surely the American public has a right to know who’s being targeted, and why.””

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      Well now I’m taking some solace knowing that libs who wanted to ignore the Palestinian genocide still think leftists are why they lost. Meet our demands next time I guess.

      I’m still not going to consider 70,000 dead Palestinians ‘acceptable losses’ so that you can go back to brunch.

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      Not on us. For you it’s “better” to slaughter children than execute Americans, so you voted for genocide. For us, neither are acceptable so we voted for a third option.

      It’s on you for refusing to not support genocide and insist on voting for a nonviable candidate.

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      I think they shifted to “Kamala would be doing exactly the same thing” and have now moved to “Trump would have won anyway.”

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    The very minute I read some synopsis on a news alert on my phone and saw that it was claimed that “he had a gun” I disbelieved that.

    Even if he had a gun and he’s on the ground and tried to get up? That justifies shooting “roughly 10” times?

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      I’ve seen those headlines too. It’s seems like they are trying to insinuate that it actually is criminal in some respect for citizens to carry guns in the US. At least that’s the vibe I’m getting from them making a big deal about that detail.

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      He did have a gun.

      He was being a responsible citizen, exercising his 2and Amendment rights with a holstered weapon, in compliance with Minnesota law.

      Gestapo thugs tackled and beat him, upholstered and removed the firearm from his side, and only then did they unload 9 bullets into him as he laid unarmed and beaten on the street.

      But as you’ll see, and as anyone who’s ever paid attention to the 2A fascist assholes will know, they suddenly become hyper anti-gun the moment its someone they don’t like exercising their rights.

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          The NRA started the anti-gun movement in California alongside Reagan. In response to the Black Panthers carrying while copwatching as they did similar shit to the Black neighborhoods in the 1960s.

          The NRA will back it no problem. They have before.

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          The NRA exists solely for the profit of firearms manufacturers.

          This won’t hinder their sales,so the NRA won’t care.

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            Lol, if that were true, they should be shouting from the rooftops because after this, people will be scrambling to get guns when an occupying private military starts executing civilians on the street.

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            That statement some real “both sides” energy bullshit. The only ones obliged to behave like professionals here are the ones representing the US government on official duty. The rest are obliged to do exactly what they are doing. Keep watching, keep filming, keep supporting each other, and keep showing the world all of it.

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      I saw a video of another US citizen getting detained by ICE and he was also legally carrying a gun (had his permit on him) and they made a huge deal about him having it. It seems that these ICE agents view just having a gun as a crime itself.

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      Seems more of a reason to carry a rifle on a sling, that’s not going to fall out of a holster in a fist fight (if that’s what happened).

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      Sucks that TousiTV keeps getting his sources from them when he covers USA. We are trying to help Iranian/Persian people and ourselves which is tough