Days the guy who’s party literally just voted to fund these known murders.
7 Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to fund them. It’s unconscionable, and those seven should be primaried, as well as party leadership who decided not to do a whip vote, but blaming the entire Democratic Party, including the Senate which hasn’t voted yet and is vowing to block it, is quite ignorant, to be honest.
What are you hoping to accomplish by responding to Senate Democrats saying they won’t allow the funding, by saying “You already allowed the funding”?
Wait for the Senate to vote, see if they keep their word. Don’t preemptively blame them for the thing they’re saying they’re going to try to stop.
And if they don’t keep their word, run for their seat and primary them. But all this “Dems are fascist-lite/controlled-opposition” seems like a combination of foreign disinfo and right-wing psyop, both of which are meant to sow discord and weaken opposition. And it’s working, because idiots like you keep falling for it.
If you haven’t seen establishment Dem’s efforts to maintain the power of the GOP and this new fascist paradigm, you have paid zero attention and are just as painted-face-sports-fan for the Dems as MAGA is for Trump.
I’m not saying we don’t vote Dem. We should all vote Dem. Entirely NEW dems. Every incumbent must go, every last one. I stopped caring when they stopped caring about us. Fuck every last one, I hope they end up prosecuted at the Hague with the GOP who enabled this. Or at least disappear into obscurity.
We have no advocates in federal power.
We also have a LOT of pro-establishment Dem accounts being made across Lemmy with account ages less than a month old. That part makes me go “huh.” It should make everyone roll their eyes.
Fuck this fucking guy
Funny, I’m not guving Schiff another dime either, for completely different reasons
Every incumbent dem must go. The reckoning is 10 months away.
Well, assuming the midterms happen and are actually free of interference, neither of which is necessarily a given.
I think we have far better chances than they want you to believe. We aren’t a single, small nation with one vote. We are 50 separate countries basically. “State” doesn’t mean subservient to a greater power, it means State. States have a lot of power and independence if they choose, and the administration would have to not just rig one election, they would have to rig 50, and that’s a HUGE task with massive chances of being caught.
But they will likely seed the public discourse with the suspicion that they will cheat, this will discourage some amount of people from voting at all. This might be all they have.
It’s not impossible for them to cheat, they very well might, they have a LOT of money to do so, but the question they need to ask is if they feel confident enough with the consequences and stability post-cheat when it inevitably comes out and nothing in the country changes and people get more and more angry.
They don’t have to rig 50. They just need a middleman.
Also, there’s points where all those votes converge so if they want to disrupt it, they don’t disrupt the voting. They disrupt it at the end.
So last election, they pulled all of the volunteers that weren’t republican out of my area. What we’re supposed to do is audit. So basically a republican a democrat and an independent would bring those votes at the end of the day to the county elections office. They stopped us from doing that this last election. They only allowed Republicans to do it. We could not audit them.
I’m an independent. They would not allow me to audit the fucking election as we have done every single year since I’ve been allowed to vote.
I have been consistently the youngest person to ever be volunteering and I’m not young. It was so bad the last election we couldn’t find a good bit of people that weren’t republican that were willing to put their time in for this.
So when I tell you, the people have failed themselves, this is why. They are lazy they took advantage of democracy. They don’t fucking do shit. So yes I’m going to fucking tell you. It’s easy to steal it from all 50 states when no one‘s fucking volunteering to audit And they cheated us out of the opportunity to do it when we are actually there.
We need a third Socialist Party that appeals to everyone regardless of where they stand in the spectrum (and uses euphemisms because Red Scare and all).
No fucking shit. Do something. Minnesota is entirely working within our communities and expect nothing from our governments. If I had the option, I would opt out of America at this point. Imagine if MN didn’t have to pay federal taxes, that’d be great.
Yes, that’s the point. Stop pretending that that’s not the point
Yeah I was about to make this exact same comment. They want to see people suffer and die, that’s why they’re allowing all this to happen.
People need to stop pretending that the murders are some unfortunate side product
I dont even get why they need that much funding. It plays like a scheme.
To kill people.
Who 10% of his party
Says the fucker that gave them almost $30 billion less than a year ago. We’re here because you all tripled their annual budget. What the fuck did you think was going to happen?
that was not the best time to negotiate (/s)
Every Democrat in the Senate voted against that. Blaming Schiff for what’s going on is counter-factual and counter-productive.
It’s wild how many pro-establishment-democrat accounts were made just this year. I’m sure it’s a coincidence.
He may vote no but Schumer will round up enough votes for it to pass. And the rest will stand back claiming they did their best. The entire party is complicit
Dude is owned by Israel. I hope he does the right thing for once but I won’t hold my breath
The moment the current regime ends, ICE needs to be disbanded, and people has to be held accountable.
There needs to be a completely new organization for dealing with immigration, this one has been and continues to be rolling in shit so deep you can’t get the stink out.
Unless we somehow miraculously manage to throw every single one of them into prison. Disbanding ICE and making a new organization just means these fuckers are going to be recycled and rebranded. Nothing will change.
ICE and DHS both need to be disbanded, they’re useless organizations whose function can be met equally or better by other groups. DHS has always been a sad joke of an agency, let the FBI/CIA, federal marshals or state troops handle that stuff. Likewise ICE has no need to exist, anything they do can just as easily be handled by some other law enforcement agency.
Worst case scenario they create a new agency with no law enforcement powers to handle immigration paperwork. Make them a pure bureaucracy that only exists to file reports and help people go through the immigration process. If someone over stays their visa then the immigration bureau can refer that person to traditional LEOs at the state or federal level. There’s no reason at all why they need a dedicated law enforcement agency purely for immigrants.
It’s good to remember that DHS was invented as a response to 9/11 during all the rush to “Keep us Safe from Terrorists” when we lost a lot of freedom and privacy. We were doing just fine without them before.
I’ll believe it when I see it. The current Democrat leadership is nothing but a bunch of flip-flopping pussies.
It goes beyond flip-flopping. It looks like a a party of calculated self-sabotage. Schumer organized votes to ensure there are just enough dissenters that he and others can pretend to want the right thing but what can they do, unfortunately they just didn’t get enough votes.
You’ll see it for about a week before some Democrats “care about the American people’s* suffering” and vote with their Republican party to fund more ICE murders and the leadership go “well at least we tried”.
DNC will need to do a lot of work before i believe they’re anything but controlled opposition.
I’d love to see a Democratic DOGE that focused on shit like ICE.
I’d love for them to sit there with smarmy fuck-you smiles and keep repeating that they are just going after “real waste, fraud and abuse” with a scripted set of talking points as they dismantle things like ICE.
Part of the script would be to point out that the cuts the conservatives made under their fake “doge” were only harming and killing people, and didn’t really save any money at all. The liberal DOGE aims to get rid of “waste, fraud and abuse” that is actively harmful.
Those assholes that sat there and smiled the biggest of shit-eating grins knew full well that they were actively trolling everyone that was not a stupid redcap when they kept repeating “waste, fraud and abuse” “waste, fraud and abuse” like good little parrots. I’d love to see that thrown right back in their face as the things that get them so hard like the terrorists that are known as ICE are just disbanded.
Schiff: it’s not just GOP members who will see more Americans die. Is this comeback really the extent of what you’re willing to do? The people you’re berating this way see this as a feature, not a flaw. They have no issues with the “wrong type” of American dying like this.
Maybe refuse to caucus with anyone who doesn’t support your NEW bill removing the funding granted by the one YOU JUST SUPPORTED?
He didn’t support the ice bill that I can tell. There were 7 democrats and he wasn’t on the list.
