This app could potentially supplant Tik Tok overtime. As Tik Tok’s censorship following it’s acquisition by US investors such as Oracle, Silver Lake, and Abu Dhabi-based MGX, and UpScrolled already having questionable ethics, this may be the path forward.
I guess we should get rid of sweet foods as well, as people can get addicted to that and it can lead to obesity.
Is there porn yet? I’ve found the prevalence of pornography to be a good indicator of how free the speech is on any platform. If you can’t see a titty, it’s probably pretty canned.
I wonder if it will function more like Vine?
Maybe it’s because I’m a decade older now, but Vine seemed awesome and I would jump on it for 10-20 minutes a day and have no problem putting it down, even forgetting to check it a week at a time.
I haven’t touched tik tok because it seems like it is much more toxic and addictive in comparison.
“Get in loser we are going to open-source a turd”
That’s cool, still not gonna consume short form media. Idk why people with the desire to have healthy online habits would appreciate this new product. It’ll be slopped with politics and AI in no time like Lemmy is already suffering from.
People don’t want an addicting, toxic, alienating, depressing, billionaire-owned platform.
They want a addicting, toxic, alienating, depressing, non-billionaire-owned platform … Apparently.
Is it so wrong to want to watch a funny video from time to time on the bus? IMO the best thing about loops, piefed or whatever is that there’s so little on here that you can open your app of choice for about 30 minutes to an hour and then be done for the week.
Is it so wrong to just take a little hit of heroin from time to time?
Short form content is actively making people dumber, causing speech impediments in kids by cause their parents and themselves are addicted to the dopamine hit of scrolling.
Are you going to ban alcohol as well because that’s a neurotoxin?
Maybe you put down the pop science magazine for five seconds and understand that a single study, or even five studies, does not a consensus make. You sound like moms against video games or whatever the hell like it was called it back in the 2000s.
Also, great job completely ignoring the point about non-incorporated vectors for engaging with short form videos don’t have enough content for you to continuously scroll.
Not sure about OP, but I think that yes, end goal should be banning alcohol consumption completely.
No. No more Vines or Shorts and shit. It’s a fucking problem. Stop it.
I hate TikTok too, but it’s not going away without comprehensive legislation regulating social media. Until then, a fediverse alternative that’s not ruled by corporate algorithms would at least be a form of harm reduction. Think of it like a Safe Injection Site program; it’s not great that they’re still using, but at least they’re getting clean needles.
I’ll tell you what, that’s a fair point.
Exactly. Ethically sourced brainrot is still brainrot
Yes, exactly. It’s just a way to successfully manipulate people to believe how you want them to.
And we don’t want leftists doing that, so let’s make it a moral failing.
It’s getting there, but still needs a good amount of ui fixes. The below mentioned are my personal issues with the app.
- scrolling is sometimes wonky with flicking to the next video and goes past 2 to 3 other videos
- double-tapping to like is a sorely missed feature
- tapping the home button should refresh the feed
- using foldable cause issues with how things are displayed and sometimes causes a takeaway you back to there beginning of the feed
All this being said I still use it. They are making progress and I hope they keep going.
It needs an app
And it needs to render uploaded videos to the maximum allowed file size. Regular people don’t know how to make their videos smaller. I only managed to do it by uploading to you tube the then downloading it from there. Then it was small enough to to be uploaded to loops
Also, easier sign up and more content
I’m a developer looking for a new pet project. This sound line a fun challenge :) open source multi platform compose app. I might just start it today
Keep me informed!👌👍🤞
It needs an app
There is an app both for apple and android. Just scroll down the page a bit: https://joinloops.org/join-the-beta
It needs third-party apps.
loops has a app if you are talking about them, I just had to uninstall the previous to install the newest as it’s been awhile since I’ve used it.
It has an app, it is kinda weird how you get it though. When you click tk join it gives you the choice of app. It’s not on an app store for android. Not sure about apple. So for me updates dont seem to happen to it that I know of.
Clone the brain rot, that’ll save you…
I mean, at least you will have the brainrot without profiling, censorship and potentially clients that make it easier to get off the brainrot
What is the point of recreating media format designed exclusively to grab attention as much as possible and monetize it?
To use it to deprogram the next generation of fascist
Short text can be as afdictive as short videos yrt one seems ok and the other not
“What’s the point of creating something people want to use?”
This is why most of you aren’t designers or creators.
People also want to use drugs that cause addiction. Is that a good reason to design and create more of them?
You could also implement features that reduce the addictivity as the EU might be demanding of Tik Tok in the future. When it’s a federated open source platform with no profit motive that’s going to be something much more easy to get in.
Who are you to say it isn’t?
Someone with a vested interest in s healthy, functional society of educated adults.
If you were an educated adult, you’d know that banning drugs tends to cause more harm. You’d also know that some drugs have positive effects on learning, cognition, attention, memory, mood, emotional regulation, and empathy, when used appropriately and responsibly. All of which contributes to a society of healthy and educated adults.
I was talking about specifically about drugs that cause addiction, not all kinds of drugs in general. Also, I said nothing about banning drugs or anything else. I just don’t understand why to produce more of that shit when we as society can’t deal with what’s already out there.
I’d say it’s to help replace unhealthy addictions with a platform that’s smaller and less easy to fall into infinite scroll rabbit holes. Like nic-patches to stop smoking.
and monetize it
Have you used TikTok? If you had in the beginning, it was full of people doing history videos, diy, etc. I suspect it will be something like that. I don’t use it anymore, but it was great in the beginning,.I suspect that if you’re on Loops, especially at first, monetizing it isn’t your first thing. The meme communities are probably going to go nuts.
It still is, it just depends on what kind of content you engage with. People on reddit/lemmy LOVE to hate on short form video content but it isn’t inherently destructive or evil IMO., it just depends on how you interact with it.
UpScrolled already having questionable ethics
Which questionable ethics? I’m out of the loop.
I’ve seen other people on Mastodon/Bluesky mention that the site takes an ‘anti-censorship’ approach to moderation, so there’s a bunch of far right people doing Nazi stuff on there.
That mixed with not having an algorithm, I’ve seen a lot of sexual stuff I was not looking for.
That mixed with not having an algorithm
Is not that a part of the advantage? You, the person; deciding what you want to see and follow. I think Mastodon and BlueSky are similar in that regard.
I’ve seen a lot of sexual stuff I was not looking for.
Follow the developer of the app and you’ll understand why;
If it doesn’t have an algorithm aren’t you responsible for what you’re seeing?
Not unless you count scrolling up a bit as consent to see nsfl stuff.
I have been on UpScrolled for about 23-25 days and have not seen any Nazi stuff. However, I keep my feed and the people I follow mainly about Anime and Palestine.
If there’s indeed Nazi stuff on it, I hope the developer removes it. Zionism and Nazi are both insanely shit ideologies that should have never come to existence.
I don’t know what upscrolled is, but if it’s not federated then who cares?
yeah I’m not sure Upscrolled is going to be an improvement over Tik Tok in the long run in any way. Not open source or federated, probably will be even easier for Trump-supporting billionaires to buy it than TT for example. Supporting Loops makes much more sense.
I don’t know what upscrolled is, but if it’s not federated then who cares?
You care enough to write about the specific app that, you don’t know about.
Your account is 4 days old, that says enough. I won’t respond to you after this comment.
Seems already pretty solid. Was testing a bit in the last days:
https://loops.video/@ordos
Still very few users. But this could change as soon as the app is available in the app stores.Testing linking @ordos@loops.video
I see your local profile here on fedia with no contact. When I try to click though I get a https warning. I don’t have the app though…
FYI, it works great for me on sh.itjust.works. Is your instance a lemmy instance?
mbin
It would be amazing to ditch the company control and so. The main problem is that it’s difficult to get users to join it. I mean just look at how many people still use reddit and discord.
It’s a chicken and an egg problem. We don’t have to worry about what other people do, only ourselves.
Yeah, that’s why it’s so hard to ditch those major platforms. Because you could join an alternative but it would likely mean not being able to interact with many things, not sure if I would make that trade-off.
I mean just look at how many people still use reddit and discord.
And Twitter
Tbf Lemmy is still lacking on many things like media(comics, games, tv shows, cartoons, anime/Manga etc), Reddit right now is THE place aside from niche sites specific to each median, but as for Discord I agree, alternatives are not so hard there… Lemmy is getting there though.
Use Reddit for reading only; read and contribute to Lemmy.
What is “questionable” about UpScrolled’s ethics is that it is pro-Palestine. So basically the same reason that TikTok came under attack: it wasn’t promoting Zionist voices and it wasn’t suppressing anti-Zionist voices.
Yup and it’s closed source, it’s of course likely to be more lax for a time than Tik Tok&Instagram until it takes over…
What is closed source ? Aren’t those up to date?
https://github.com/joinloops/loops-server#license
Loops Server is open-sourced software licensed under the AGPL license.
That’s misleading, they plan on being open sourced according to pubs:
Similar to how Mastodon offers an open source, distributed version of X, the fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor. This week, an app called Loops began accepting signups on its new platform for sharing short, looping videos. Still in the early stages, Loops is not yet open sourced, nor has it completed its integration with ActivityPub, the protocol that powers Mastodon, Pixelfed, PeerTube, and other federated apps.
However, both those efforts are in the works and when complete, will allow Loops to add another layer of social activity to the growing open social web known as the fediverse, which now has north of 11.6 million users and over 1 million monthly active users. (Mastodon accounts for roughly 65% of that activity.) Growth in this space has also encouraged other apps to adopt ActivityPub, like social magazine app Flipboard and Meta’s Threads. The latter is not yet fully integrated but already has more than 200 million monthly active users.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/25/the-fediverse-is-getting-its-own-tiktok-competitor-called-loops/
Wait, what’s this if it’s closed source? https://github.com/joinloops/loops-server
I’m not trying to fight with you, I’m trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Maybe we could get the creator to come in here and explain what’s going on.
My apologies, I called UpScrolled closed source because it is, not Loops.
So Loops is open sourced then?
Yes.
Oh, that makes a lot more sense.
That article is over a year old and it’s still not open source.
Isn’t piefed open source? You might be right, but we’ll see, yeah?
Pixelfed (Instagram-like) not PieFed (Reddit-like)
Pixelfed ≠ Piefed
but it is open source
Pixelfed is open-sourced software licensed under the AGPL license. https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed?tab=readme-ov-file#license
You’re right, I thought it was the Piefed guy.
The benefit is less distractions and pointless organization for a project in the early stages
Open sourcing things is a pain in the ass. It’s common to get the core project working before doing so
