For those say in their 60s or 70s here. When you were in your 30’s or 40’s did you have the feeling that the world was a fucked up place? So much has been going on since I entered adulthood in the early 2000s and I feel like it’s getting more and more intense. It’s never ending.

Is it unique? Or has it always been this way?

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      ooo, downvotes from folk whose favorite game growing up was smear the queer

      I’m not downvoting you, but you have to understand: yes, I vividly remember playing the game. I didn’t even know why it was called that, or what it meant. We were kids and we played a playground game (which was pretty fun). Looking back on the name, yeah, yuck. We also played a game called “Barf It”; the game had a name and the words didn’t mean much.

      There are lots of Gen X allies out there and things that were a product of the time don’t define us all today.

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        There are lots of Gen X allies out there

        yeah, i just had to talk a gen X “ally’s” son out of suicide because they’re great with the LGB but T? get the hell out of our house and the son is ftm. and this shit is not uncommon.

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          So there are a lot of allies, but this guy’s asshole family isn’t actually one. Just because this is common doesn’t negate the existence of actual allies. Remember, anecdotes are not statistics. It can be a reason to be cautious, but it is not a reason to deny the existence of a group.

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            my dude, that was one incident. i am posting all up and down the fediverse about working with homelessness. why do you think i was talking with the son. how many of these do you want because i have hundreds. i have been doing this since i was… fuck. i can’t remember not working with homelessness charities. it’s just something my family has done. the biggest shelter in town is literally on a street named after me.

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              Goddam, Minnesota. Huge props to your work. You have my admiration.

              For it to be data rather than anecdotes, you need to gather the data. Survey not just the examples you have, but the people outside of the demographics you work with. Form the questions in a way that gathers the data you really want - split it out to give you granularity. Are you a member of gen X? Are you LGBT+ yourself? Do you consider yourself an ally? Do you support the gay community? Do you support the lesbian community? Do you support the trans community?

              Right now, the cohort you have the most experience with is the people who have suffered, which will skew your conclusions. However, this is the anecdotal evidence that tells you something is fishy. The next step is to get actual statistics.

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                my dude, i ran the organization for two decades (it’s why they put the shelter on a street with my name on it) i have the statistics. just the ones i have are a decade old. I had to retire due to disability.

                this is literally my wheelhouse.

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                  Whuff. And GenX’s collective opinion is unlikely to have changed in the meantime.

                  A bit absurd that for all the anti-establishment sentiment, they largely uphold gender norms.

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                  Like the parent said, you’re only seeing the bad cases. The ones where they say “you’re trans? Get out of my house!” So of course they’re homeless and you work with them. I’m an ally for trans folks as much as I am anyone else. I can tell you there are countless other Gen X’ers who are the same. You’re seeing one angle on it and having seen so much of that, you’re convinced it’s the entirety. People are shitty to their kids a lot, but there are lots of people who aren’t and accept their kids as they are.

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                    yes, i am personally only seeing the bad cases. but i have access to all the statistics.

                    because i ran a series of homeless shelters. that’s what i did for 20 years. as a side hustle. because i’m disabled when you’re actually disabled you get paid 1/3 the market rate so you have to work 3 full time jobs to survive.

                    stop making shit up in your head because it makes you feel better

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      smear the queer

      I doubt. Maybe I can’t generalize from my own ignorance, but we had no idea what this was referring to. It was no different than “kill the guy with the ball”, but my mom didn’t like us talking about killing our friends and brothers

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          It’s exactly analogous to someone using the n word because that was common usage at the time time, compared to using it now when all the negative associations are clear and (most) usage is not acceptable. Not the same at all

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            True story: growing up i thought « to gyp » was just kid’s language for « to cheat someone ». i had no idea it was pejorative until i was an adult. no one was telling me Roma people were bad - i didn’t even know the connection. young people today would probably call me a racist for using that term as a kid, but i legitimately had no idea, and i will never use the term again now that i know.

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              Not at all. I’m a sheltered white dude, oblivious in my security. But it’s important to point out that ignorance is a thing: we should know better but didn’t always.

              Using offensive/insulting terms ignorantly may be wrong but it’s not the same as intentionally