• mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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      filled with a terrorist population

      yeah, sure, a third of them aren’t terrorists

      but the other third? either openly approve or don’t care enough to even vote against it lol. the bare minimum

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    “The honor of taking Cuba” sounds like an old man talking about a young girl he’s about to rape.

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    Alright that’s the last straw, I’ve had enough news about tyrants today. I don’t even believe in magic but I’m still gonna put a curse on every single one of these disgusting fascists and enabling fuckwits. Rot, bastards. All of them

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    Vihhoo tihhkuvat akat, ukotkii eltaantunneet,
    vajjoot mahollistajat, kansoo nii murhhanneet,
    sikkailevvat raharikkoot, lapsiiki raeskanneet,
    kaik nuo elonkehhee ryöveevät suatanan ahhneet;

    lihat sulakee poies, suoletki määtkää,
    täysiks visvoo piät ilikeet ja tyhymätkii,
    kalluu nuo luut viel paha syöpäkkii,
    kaik fasistihet työ elävält mättääntykkää;

    puolest kaikkie heikompie, ny mie pistänkii vihoiks,
    kirroon verellä, kirroon raualla,
    kirroon sylellä ja suolalla,
    peittelennii viel tuhhkasella,
    mie kuritan mualimanpaskojia näen julumasti kostoks.

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      a guy getting his ass kicked

      The Americans and Israelis have massacred an extraordinarily large number of people, demolished billions in critical infrastructure, and plunged the country into a bleak future of warlordism, poverty, and famine.

      It cannot be adequately expressed how nightmarish life will become in Iran in the next few months, without a globally organized relief campaign.

      What they’ve accomplished militarily is impressive, but it hasn’t come anywhere close to breaking the genocidal grip of the imperialist powers around their collective throats.

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        Military force kills people and breaks things. The US military is incredibly good at this. Wielding the power of destruction in a manner that produces positive outcomes is the job of politicians, and the Executive Branch happens to be incredibly bad at this.

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    I’m so glad I listened to all the posters who said voting for the Democrats was voting for GENOCIDE. Boy we sure dodged a bullet there didn’t we!

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      talk to the dem leaders about their failure on that one. You would hope at least one of the parties would be against war crimes. Why werent the DNC? Rhetocial question: because they are irretrievably corrupt and cashed some AIPAC checks.

      I think you’d best be mad at that corruption and not the voters put in an impossible spot because of it. Unless you are dishonest, a warmonger or zionist, in which case go on with your prattle.

    • cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml
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      I’m not sure why people like you feel so confident that some small segment of vocal lefties lost the democrats the election. They are such a small percentage of the actually voting population and strategic voting is just not how most people vote.

      The reality is many democratic voters were simply not motivated to vote for an administration that was more interested in supporting a genocide than dealing with the riding cost of living. You can argue that’s stupid or irrational but that won’t affect how voters actually vote. You might as well be yelling at a brick wall. It won’t change anything.

      The fact is that Biden, Kamala, and other high level members of the Democratic Party knew that supporting a genocide might cost them the election. They did it anyways. They cared more about Israel’s ability to bomb children than they cared about protecting the American people from a second Trump term. The blame lies entirely with them.

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        I’m not sure why people like you feel so confident that some small segment of vocal lefties lost the democrats the election. They are such a small percentage of the actually voting population and strategic voting is just not how most people vote.

        Because then they’d have to confront the fact that there was whole list of popular (with everyone, not just the left) issues that the democrats where turning their noses up at, not just Kamala’s promise to keep Joe’s genocide going.

        But it is funny how the anti-genocide folks are the ones they’re blaming the most for their defeat. No one is hissing at people who wanted single-payer health care for instance. Totally a real winning strategy and not just another smear job paid for by AIPAC.

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          Honestly, I think it comes down to a form of genocide apologia. I think most reasonable people might ask, “If Biden was willing to lie in order to help Israel carry out a genocide, why wouldn’t he or any of his associates lie in order to protect the corporate profits even if it meant American people would be murdered en masse?” At that point, voting for a democrat feels like choosing to get stabbed in the back so that you don’t get shot in the face. Sure, one might be better than the other but I don’t think anyone wants to be making that choice.

          However, if you think your own life has a greater intrinsic value than the lives of people in Gaza you won’t see it the same way. Yeah maybe you would prefer if the Democrats didn’t help murder children abroad but that doesn’t mean they would do the same to you and your children.

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        Maybe it was the fact that Kamala was fake as hell, or maybe that the Democratic canvassers knocked on people’s doors (including mine) two dozen times before the election, even though I told them every. single. time. that I was voting for her.

        Or hell, maybe it’s that she called Gen Z voters dumb after they clenched the 2022 midterms. Or maybe it’s the fact that they didn’t primary a candidate. They kept saying Biden was going to run again and then tried to use his popularity to force us to vote for her. I’m sorry, but that faded Obama magic doesn’t transfer from one candidate to another, especially when Biden was so-so at best with almost no charisma. I was already pissed that we got the rug pull with Bernie for Biden in 2020. To not even get a fucking primary for 2024 has left me beyond bitter.

        Still, I voted for her and Fetterman. I will not vote for a candidate I don’t believe in again. At this point, I’m writing in a third-party name. If the establishment can’t learn, then let them burn. Don’t bother with whatever guilt trip of a response you might have. I’m sick of feckless leaders. I will always vote, but I won’t hold my nose for the establishment anymore. Fascism is here, and the ratcheting fuckers of the Democratic Party are useless. It’s just too bad. Trump is essentially burning the country to the ground, but the flames won’t hit the support beams until they can blame the Democrats, and, like always, it will work. Politics piss me off so much.

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          Yeah, my only advice is stay close to your family, friends, and community if you can. It’s pretty clear to me that Democratic Party officials have no real interest in fighting fascism so it really doesn’t make sense to put any hope in them. Luckily you don’t really have to.

          Fascists by their own inflexible nature will eventually force people to fight back in meaningful ways. Any kind of bonds you create with other people can become the basis upon which organized resistance thrives, whatever that may look like. Even though it’s not really organizing, sometimes I think acts as simple as baking cookies for your neighbors does more to prepare for the fight against fascism than voting for a Democrat does. lol

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              I’m not telling anyone not to vote but why do you think voting will stop fascists now? It never has in the past. Normal people had to fight and die to stop it.

              Maybe if democrats treated fascism with the seriousness it deserves we would be okay. However, instead of jailing Trump and dismantling his movement, Biden decided to give unlimited support to a fascist government committing a genocide.

              I hope you realize how disingenuous democrats are when they tell you to vote against Trump in 2028 as if the election hasn’t been rigged by that point.

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              You really can’t fight fash by voting for fash-lite which is what was offered in 2024.

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        some small segment of vocal lefties

        Most if not all of them were bots and right-wing trolls, operating with the objective of suppressing Democratic Party turnout. The remainder (if any) were just gullible.

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        Ah, but it’s not just those who voted this way. It’s more those who actively supported this idea and were pushing for people not to vote because of it. We’ll never have certainty about how much of an impact it made on the actual vote but I think any reasonable person would concede by this point that the consequences of the result they were advocating for have been much, much worse than just picking the lesser evil even if you believe that lesser evil allowed an unrestrained Israel to conduct genocide. I do think the facts contradict that claim anyway since we’ve seen Israel’s actions rise to a whole another level after Trump has truly let the Netanyahu government loose but even if that wasn’t the case there’s a lot more harm being done both domestically and abroad in addition to that all continuing.

        It’s also not just the presidential election by the way, in a world where the House had been under Democratic control we’d probably have seen Trump limited in meaningful ways over the past year.

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      Technically speaking, we don’t know what would have happened if Kamala was elected. But I agree with the general sentiment of the message.

      Trump, despite being lowest rated president in the modern history is still overrated and overtrusted by people.

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      It’s always a vote for genocide, whether D or R or refusing to vote, the genocide keeps genociding.

      USA is world’s largest arms dealer (not hyperbole) regardless of who is in office. Vote for who you want, just for laughs. It doesn’t matter.

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        Nope, your “nothing matters everyone is the same” bullshit is wrong. There are different levels of harm and the far right is objectively more harmful to more people.

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          Lmfao you Americans are funny. Non-americans are getting bombed regardless of what flavour of liberalism you guys choose.

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            We’re talking Iran, Venezuela, Iran again, Cuba next, threats against Greenland and Canada within a few months. You really have to be clueless to pretend this is just the same thing that was happening the previous four years under Biden.

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              Didn’t Obama do the same with Libya Syria and continued in Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, among others? And Biden aided a genocide so not sure what you’re on about.

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                How many of these did they start vs continue vs somehow happened in their term?

                Let’s just make some borscht full of conflicts the US was involved in and use that as whataboutims because who the fuck cares?

                Is Trump more than aiding the genocide now? Questions over questions.

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                So let’s be clear: your only example of what was happening under Biden is the thing that Trump has turned up to eleven while also doing all the other things I listed.

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      These people are so mentally challenged it’s not even funny. I bet they are still around, perhaps on .ml 😉