It is frustrating that we as a nation keep rooting around in a dead guy’s files while ignoring what multiple living women are saying under oath.
Well, women have the ability to lie… Unlike the president, who many people are saying is biggly honest, and the most honest man in history.
If only we had criminal justice system…
Oh wait, -we- do have a system that’ll hold us accountable for crimes. If only rich people weren’t allowed to do things like rape children or lead an insurrection.
Well, sadly, they made the system. Only difference now from before is that thanks to internet that people blatantly get to see it happening.
I smell boots on the ground in Iran after this newest Epstein files release.
You mean even more?
At least that we know of as a country, we do not have people deployed in the country proper as of yet. They’re all set up in a dozen little airbases ready to fly and die, but we do not have soldiers actively in Iran.
Pedonald was publicly bragging about being a pedophile way before he ran in 2016. Anyone who’s says they’re still waiting for evidences would call it a hoax if that turd would come to their house and rape kids in front of them.
Since everything with him is projection and his lies mean its truth, Im pretty sure Donald Trump murdered someone on 5th Avenue too. Probably someone he raped.
I’m still waiting for evidence.
I fully believe he’s a pedofile, I just want there to be evidence that’s so credible no fucking jury could acquit his ass.
It’s just not possible, because the DOJ will never touch him. A jury will never have a chance to say anything.
District courts could still pick up the case I believe?
But yeah, the chances of anything happening are slim as hell
Ah, yeah, I remember Bondi saying she would reward patience with evidence.
The same Bondi who gave Epstein and all his co-conspirators blanket immunity if he plead guilty to a minor charge of soliciting prostitution and was sentenced to Florida “daytime jail” where he was allowed to go home nights and weekends?
Pew pew
Obviously every piece of evidence against is valuable given the unjust world we live in, but I have to think for a monument about how crazy it would be for anyone not currently convinced of his crimes to see this and then suddenly change their mind
And to think, we don’t even know what could have been covered up or erased during Trump’s first term when him and Barr were fully in control of the DOJ/DOC.
Right? We are dealing with the crumbs that are left over after two terms of trump that have come out despite total control of all three branches of the government plus the local jurisdictions in which this stuff occurred plus whatever other state actors were involved in the whole operation. It is a miracle anything made it out of that.
Human beings are bayesian. Nobody changes their mind instantly on almost anything. They collect information and compare it against their internal view of the world and update that view accordingly. Confirmation bias makes us interpret data in a way that more likely agrees with what we already think and believe (yes - all of us - you to dear reader).
A slow steady push of data and facts may change some folks over time. But you can’t expect to just flick a switch and see all of MAGA change at once. But nobody reports on that one guy who read this and suddenly thinks “yeah - he probably did something”.
To be fair, there IS information that can make you immediately re-evaluate a person.
To me, it was Musk’s “pedo guy” rant back in, what was it, '16, '17? Up until then, I thought he was an okay guy, doing tech things to improve humanity in general, and all the negative stuff being just… him being on the spectrum. It took me the moment he started throwing a very heavy accusation around quite baselessly to realise how shitty he is. A singular moment, a singular event, a singular piece of information made me re-evaluate everything I knew about him and see him for the shitstain he is.
What we know now about him begging to go to Pedo Island his choice of accusation makes so much more sense than it did at the time. Just goes to show, insults say a lot more about the insulter than the insultee
To be fair, there IS information that can make you immediately re-evaluate a person.
Oh - for sure, yeah. I suppose I may have been too absolute in my phrasing. It also depends on where you’re coming from. “Seems okay” is a lot closer to “is terrible” than “He’s gonna save humanity” is.
I had a similar “I think this guy’s doing some cool shit” to “waitaminute - why’s he calling some guy trying to save kids a pedophile” moment myself.
And the Nazi salute. The pedo thing made me think he was just a piece of shit. But that confirmed he was also a fascist.
That was the point he jumped the shark for me. His Twitter takeover, constant placating of the right and efforts to get Trump re-elected had already pushed him from “edgelord memer and shitposter” to “alt-right nutcase”, but the salute immediately jumped him to “irredeemably evil monster”.
Oh, the fascist confirmation came in 2020 + the takeover of Twitter to “give right wing voices the platform they deserve” or whatever absolute pile of bovine faeces he claimed.
Also crushed whatever goodwill I had toward Tim Urban as a balanced and neutral intellectual in pursuit of a better world through education and truth. Just another paid hack sucking the musky dick.
The only thing that really matters is what your in-groups believe. Some people consider news sources one of their in-groups, so if they see something in the NYT or The Guardian, they’re likely to believe it. But for many people, they only believe their friends and sludge like fox news. You could show them a mathematical proof of something, and if you’re out-group, they won’t believe you.
For this reason, it’s important to talk to our idiot friends and family, because that friendship is the only way to get them back to reality.
For this reason, it’s important to talk to our idiot friends and family, because that friendship is the only way to get them back to reality.
This is a very important point. Many many people judge the quality of the information they receive based on how much they know and trust the source. Even if they’re arguing with you you’ve still put a thought in their head that may provide enough doubt to change in the future.
People try and do that but it doesn’t work too well
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I hope, one day, this overwhelming mountain of evidence actually manages to cause some real-world consequences for the criminals involved. (And leads to some small amount of closure for the victims.)
I don’t need any more evidence.
There is already enough circumstantial evidence against him. If I was on the jury I know how I would vote.
This. And a jury has already voted him guilty. Multiple times.
And the American public has decided a rapist is better than a woman, multiple times.
About 30% of the public.
*60%
30%.
Don’t spread misinformation.
He’s not wrong though: 30% decided a rapist is better than a woman, 30% decided rapists and women are equally bad and they don‘t give a shit who wins.
They literally didn’t decide.
I’m not. They 30% decided not to vote, therefore deciding Trump was better than Harris. This is not debatable.
No, they literally didn’t decide.
For the 5900098325893th time, Harris lost because of her platform, not her gender.
Just a reminder, Trump won election against 2 well-qualified women and 0 men. The platform of the meh man who beat him was not essentially different from that of either woman.
And yet, 5900098325894 times, some guy on the Internet has insisted sexism had nothing to do with it.
No matter how many times you say it, it doesn’t make it true. When a woman runs against a known rapist, felon, racist con man and loses (twice!) yet a borderline demented white man wins (with essentially the same platform), it is much more likely that voters are misogynists than “because of her platform”.
Biden only managed to win because of how Trump fucked up COVID. But since voters have goldfish memories, it didn’t hurt him again four years later.
Well in fairness, the first time a woman lost to him he hadn’t been adjucated to be a rapist yet…
But had bragged on tape about getting away with sexual assault.
Let’s see old Donny try to wriggle himself out of this jam
Poor Cuba
The Post and Courier also reported that around 30 pages of documents listed in an internal DOJ trial evidence inventory still remain missing.
I’m sure that was an oversight and they’ll rush to publish the missing pages asap. /s
Clickbait. Yes, her story had more corroborating points in the sense of where she lived at the time, and who she knew, among other things that in general indicate she was telling the truth.
It has no corroborating points with the actual accusations even though the headline wants you to think that.
They corroborated details about one of her accusations against another man, Jimmy Atkins, who was extorting money from her mom because he had compromising photographs of the daughter who is the accuser. This is all part of her story, about the men who trafficked her when she was a minor. Granted it’s not direct evidence of sexual assualt but it still corroborates her story.
“During her interviews, the woman told FBI agents that two men were extorting money from her mother, who wound up going to prison for embezzling money. “Her mother informed her late in the process that they were in trouble, that she had seen photographs…and that she was paying people money,” an FBI agent wrote after an interview, referring to alleged naked photos of the teenage girl.”
“The woman claimed Epstein started abusing her and trafficked her to several men when she was aged between 13 and 15. She had met Epstein after he responded to an advertisement for babysitting that her mother, a real estate agent in South Carolina, had given to her clients.”
“A report from South Carolina newspaper The Post and Courier released on Sunday has now corroborated key personal details given by the woman about a third man she claims also sexually assaulted her—named Jimmy Atkins. Those details are not directly related to her accusations against Trump, but suggest that she was truthful about other matters she raised with the FBI.”
True, but the headline also is technically accurate.
Well, not really. In a journalistic sense
