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      While I enjoy him, I get this one. He is a hero who would be the villain in any other story, so if you see through him he can be pretty unpalatable.

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      Tap for spoiler

      I liked him in Mistborn at least. After that, well. Jury’s out. :::

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      [Secret History]

      He will make a great villain. (Or already is from one series perspective)

      Depends if you like your morally gray characters I guess.

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          Working now? They work in both Voyager and the default web UI, can’t do much better than that?

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              Ah, I am! The other users spoiler tag was fine so I just assumed something was up, had no idea sync didn’t support the tag.

              No harm done though, I’ve already read the whole series a couple of times.

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      I was watching a few on a road trip and happened to catch them when Rachel was rejecting Joey, then demanding Ross not date and stay with her. She was just awful in every episode I saw.

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      Ross is the one that drives me insane. Literally every other person demonstrates some sort of growth over the 10 years the show takes place, but Ross is pretty much exactly the same.

      For me, Rachel starts out annoying but gets more likeable through the seasons.

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      Yeah…I want to like him and he’s got more character development than any other, but yeah. So your high school crush didn’t “get” your personality disorder and then slipped away. That’s what happens in high school. But then he goes back to teach AND LIVE at his old high school and never moves on? Snape my man…marry Denise from your gym and get over it. Get a job somewhere else, join a pickleball league or somethin.

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    Astarion from BG3. I can understand why people like him. I personally do not and generally never used him in the party because I didn’t want to hear him be annoyed yet again I was helping people.

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      Astarion is particularly annoying in Act 1 for some reason, with 99% of his reactions just being him hating anything that is remotely positive. His reactions (and character in general) in the following acts is a lot more fleshed out and varied.

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        His guard is up for the first act because he is traveling with new people.the change is due to warming up to the characters.

        Shadowheart does this in the first act too, and combined they are really annoying as a combo but I found both to be fine individually.

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          The thing is, Viconia and ::: spoiler Throne of Bhaal spoilers Sarevok ::: had similar arcs in the previous games but I never got annoyed enough to not want them in my party. A character can be disagreeable without being insufferable.

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          Even with her guard up, Shadowheart’s character is still more varied. Her reactions are more mixed and you can really see her bluntness and pragmatism come through. Her responses vary from indifference, apathy, rudeness, hostility, and moments of care and tenderness. Astarion in Act 1 is just an asshole all the time. I also feel that some of his reactions clash with his character and don’t make sense. Don’t get me wrong; I think he’s a good character but I can also see why so many want nothing to do with him.

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      It was the same for me with the guy with the hamster in Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2. He’s a favourite to everyone, to me he was just an annoying idiot.

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        Minsc is getting a big punch up for the nostalgia factor. He’s a beloved character from the original games and has been featured in other D&D stories.

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        I think he’s endearing. But I was probably about 12 when I first played BG1, and the dumb-but-good-hearted warrior with the world’s only miniature giant space hamster was comedic gold for me at that age.

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      I killed him almost immediately after those first few nights in camp. I then left Shadowheart there to rot with his corpse. I never understand the mass appeal towards those two.

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      I wasn’t a fan of Astarion either. Though to be fair, I’m never a fan of self-centered characters or evil runs. I don’t get the appeal.

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      I think as the game progresses, you get to see why Astarion is so eager to act in his own interests. However, his backstory really only justifies half of his refusal to help people. The other half of his whining feels antithetical to his own situation, but perhaps that’s just because he doesn’t fully acknowledge his newfound freedoms until Act 2.

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      I’ve got three questions for you.

      1. Did you not grow up watching cartoons?

      2. Do you find the science fiction based topics to be too much?

      3. Do you believe there shouldn’t be cartoons geared towards adults?


      If you answered yes to all of these:

      spoiler

      Who hurt you?

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        Not op, but i dont care much for the show myself either. I used to, when it was new and something different, but I believe I have grown past the pseudointellectual, but actual college humor. It just hits different these days

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          I actually agree. I started losing interest in the show during season 5 (2021). But like how GoT seasons went, I don’t write the show off as a loss because the last few seasons weren’t strong hitters.

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        I grew up watching cartoons, and still do. I’m an avid scifi, horror, and speculative fiction reader/watcher. There absolutely should be animations geared toward adults.

        I don’t like Rick and Morty. I think it’s dumb, self obsessed, drivel. I think it’s writing style is the literary equivalent of pumpkin spice latte. No one hurt me, I just don’t like it and I don’t understand why people do. I answered a question. I didn’t tell people to not watch it.

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          Understandable. Thanks for replying.

          Now… what are some of your favorite new sci-fi movies? =)

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            It’s been more books recently.

            We just did Snowcrash, which has parts that aged poorly, but over all was a fun read. That leads to the old movie Pontypool (Snowcrash is in a shot in that that’s an obvious plant- both had similar themes). That lead to Pontypool Changes Everything a book that, try as I did, I could not get through. But the movie and BBC radio drama are both great.

            We’re doing Ubik by Philip K Dick right now, and I’m enjoying that a lot. I’ve read a fair bit of his stuff but missed this one. I tend to binge authors so I imagine I’ll do a few more from him.

            Late last year I did about everything from Scott Meyers. The Magic 2.0 books are deff for a younger audience but were fun in their own way.

            I tried to do the Murderbot series recently, but it missed it’s mark with me. I didn’t not like them and I can see goung back to give them a second try maybe in the fall.

            The Duck and Cover series was heavily thrown at me through ads so I gave that a go. It deff has its moments but I think there’s underlying difference of opinion between me and the author. I have no proof of this, it’s just kind of a feeling. Not bad books, funny and clever in spots.

            John Scalzi and Dennis E. Taylor are two guys I get everything from as soon as something new drops.

            And recently a buddy got me to watch Ravenous. An old cannibalistic, period piece in the Spanish American War era with a good dose of homoeroticisim thrown in. Deff highly recommend watching that.

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    The Joker.

    I really don’t get the obsession with overusing the Joker when most of Barman’s other rogue gallery members are much more interesting. The worst of it is during “The Batman Who Laughs”, because now you have both the regular Joker and “what if Batman became Joker” running around. And then, as if it couldn’t get any more ridiculous,

    spoiler

    The Batman who Laughs gets Dr. Manhattan’s powers in a groan-worthy way which is like, not how Dr. Manhattan works at all just so they can fit more Joker into the story.


    And I think most people will agree by now that Harley Quinn is a lot better of a character after she’s done being Joker’s sidekick.

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      I think he’s liked more because he’s relatable, rather than he’s an interesting character. Personally, I think his pranks on Dwight are amusing, but everything else about him is nothing special.

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        Dwight would be a much more loyal friend for sure, and far less likely to steal your girl. But these high intelligence low wisdom friends are exhausting. Especially when they make a mistake, because they’re so book smart they couldn’t possibly be wrong. Tons of unwanted advice on subjects they’ve only read about. But they’ll always be first to arrive when you need help moving. It’s almost impossible for you to be as good a friend in return, not that it’s required, but I feel bad when it’s not even. And then you’re just driving around one day chatting with them in the passenger seat and they pull out the ninja star they bought at the gas station and want you to think it’s as cool as they do. I just don’t know how to handle Dwight friends.

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          Not that I’m suggesting that I’m smart, but I really felt this comment to my core. I feel like people that know me may look at me like I’m a “Dwight Friend”, and I’ve long realized this (though never have I articulated it quite as well as you). It’s a real confidence killer when you realize this is how you’re viewed. But yes, if someone called needing help, I would be there in a heartbeat.

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            If it helps, in pretty much every friendship, one of you will be the Dwight. I have Dwight friends, and I am the Dwight to other friends. If you feel like you’re always the Dwight, you just haven’t found your Dwight yet. He’s out there and he’s patient.

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    Edward Kenway from Assassin’s Creed 4. The whole game actually is extremely overrated. I had a hard time finishing that game. I rather play 3 or even Unity.

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    There are a few companions in Mass Effect that seem to inspire a way stronger reaction from other fans and I don’t totally get it. Like, I like Thane, and I’m sad about what happens to him, but some people are SO into him and I don’t get it. I also love Tali and restarted my first nearly complete playthrough when I realized I couldn’t save her and Legion, but there are fans who are full on obsessed. Then again, my love for Garrus can’t be contained, so I’m sure some people don’t get that.

    At least we can all agree that Ashley and Kaiden are the worst, right?