Nothing here for the media. Keep moving people, keep moving, there is nothing here. /s
Epstein took his own life in a Manhattan jail in 2019 while awaiting trial over federal sex-trafficking charges.
Odd how the BBC would just lie like that.
He wasnt awaiting trial on sex-trafficking charges??
The thing wooshed on was Epstein didn’t kill himself.
ya but he did though, until someone provides actual evidence that he didnt. Lots of people in his exact same position do kill themselves.
Lets try to be better than the trump filth that push insane conspiracy sh!t all the time please.
The cameras all “malfunctioned” and all the guards decided to take a nap.
Sure.
Is the next suggestion that his elite pedo sex ring is a conspiracy theory?
Except the cameras didn’t malfunction. There’s video of the cell block that shows an empty hallway. Now, there’s no video of inside the cells due to privacy concerns. There’s never cameras that show the inside of cells. This privacy feature has been turned into a “There’s no video from the cell because of broken cameras” by conspiracy nutjobs who don’t actually know anything.
As to the guards sleeping or playing on their phones… There were only two for that section of the prison, and they had been sleeping or otherwise faking their rounds for weeks, if not months. The video evidence from the cell block is how they were caught.
Epstein had been specifically pulled off suicide watch, even after attempting suicide previously. That’s the part that’s sketchy. He also had a visit from his lawyer a few days before where he changed his will to fuck over his victims.
But no, idiot meme lords think some shadowy government figures came in and killed him without leaving any evidence of existing.
I’ve read actual accounts of things the CIA does, and they wish they were even half as competent as the nutjobs make them out to be. Remember, these are the same people who used “pizza” as a code word in Lebanon to mean, “go to the Pizza Hut for more orders”, and then let Hezbollah sit and watch about a dozen agents and informants meeting at Pizza Hut.
(Reuters) - Two cameras that malfunctioned outside the jail cell where financier Jeffrey Epstein died as he awaited trial on sex-trafficking charges have been sent to an FBI crime lab for examination, a law enforcement source told Reuters. Epstein’s lawyers Reid Weingarten and Martin Weinberg told U.S. District Judge Richard Berman in Manhattan on Tuesday they had doubts about the New York City chief medical examiner’s conclusion that their client killed himself. The two cameras were within view of the Manhattan jail cell where he was found dead on Aug. 10. A source earlier told Reuters two jail guards failed to follow a procedure overnight to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes. He had been taken off suicide watch prior to his death.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/unproven-claim-of-camera-malfunction-before-epsteins-death/
The updates are key;
Update, Aug. 19: The New York City Chief Medical Examiner’s Office on Aug. 16 publicly reported that, after a “careful review of all investigative information, including complete autopsy findings,” the determined cause of death for Epstein was “hanging” and the manner of death was “suicide.”
Update, Aug. 30: More than two weeks after Epstein’s death and this story’s publication date, news outlets, citing unnamed law enforcement sources, reported that two cameras outside of Epstein’s cell malfunctioned and were being analyzed by FBI experts. The Washington Post reported that footage from “at least one camera in the hallway outside [Epstein’s] cell” was “unusable,” but “other, clearer footage was captured in the area.” These reports have not been publicly confirmed by federal officials.
Update, Dec. 2: Federal prosecutors in Manhattan on Nov. 19 announced an indictment against two correctional officers working at the MCC on the night of Epstein’s death – charging them with falsifying records because they did not conduct mandatory checks on inmates. The indictment revealed that there was video footage captured in the Special Housing Unit, located on the prison’s ninth floor, where Epstein’s cell was located.
Specifically, the indictment said that “aside from those two officers, as confirmed by video surveillance, no one else entered the SHU, no one conducted any counts or rounds throughout the night, and no one entered the tier in which Epstein was housed.” Epstein was “assigned to the cell closest to the correctional officers’ desk in the common area of the SHU, which was approximately fifteen feet from the cell.”
So, at least some cameras in the prison properly recorded footage the night of Epstein’s death — showing, for example, that no one entered the tier where Epstein’s cell was located. The indictment does not shed light on other cameras in the prison or reports of a “camera malfunction.” We’ll update this story again if more information becomes available.
Malfunctioning cameras, sleeping guards that were rotated in, controversy over the medical examiner report…
Not being able to prove something happened and nothing happening are two different things.
According to the official investigation Epstein did commit suicide so that’s what the journalist should report, but that doesn’t mean that the journalist can’t add something like “in suspicious circumstances” to make clear that the circumstances of Epstein’s death were well, very suspicious.
It’s the BBC, not the Guardian. The journalist literally can’t, by law, add “in suspicious circumstances”
Do you have a reference for that law? I’m interested in seeing how it’s worded.
I said by law because it’s easier than “royal charter” but it amounts to the same
They certainly can report on that others found it suspicious
I don’t believe it’s a conspiracy though that guards were switched out and the cameras went out at the time he “killed himself” and this was during the time that Bill Barr the walrus himself was the AG of the US.
At least I hope that’s not fake, I’m fairly sure that’s what I read at the time.
If you think he killed himself, you’re in luck. I have a helluva deal for you on a really nice bridge.
Is murdering a high profile person with dangerous information that insane? I can’t say what happened, but him being killed seems within the realm of possibility considering what we know.
Also, looking from the outside, I’m fairly certain there is plenty of filth on the dem side too.
Official act.
And it took… how many years? I wonder what the entire logistics network looks like in Hamburgerland (the USA as I call it), and across the world. Because uh, yeah with quantum decryption and data centers… and everyones calls, texts, internet traffic, every little piece of info. Where your mouse cursor is, even every few seconds your phone screen scans to see where your eyes are looking at your screen. Have been being stored in various government data centers across the world. In the USA, the NSA has A data center in Utah :| I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about the kind of psychological profiles you could make on everyone with that sort of control of infrastructures. And the kind of recruits you could find if you were in certain… industries.
“Donald Trump shielded from child molestation charges by supreme court under presidential acts doctrine”
“Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas notes that presidential child molestation is a time honored american tradition starting with Thomas Jefferson”
That would have been Alito. Also the bible said it’s okay, probably.
Gotta marry her tho. Them’s the rules.
Unless she’s your slave concubine, then you’re fine. But you should free your own children.
Also, Sally Hemings was very likely the daughter of John Wayles, Jefferson’s father-in-law. Which makes Sally Hemings the half-sister of Jefferson’s, by then, dead wife.
She was also between 14 and 16 when Jefferson took her as a concubine.
I Hope everything isn’t [REDACTED]
Don’t worry, just the stuff about Trump.
It’s a Florida judge after all.
I mean, it’d be funny if DeSantis got pissy about not being the GOP presidential candidate and tried to tank trump in “revenge”
“Official act of state governor” ;)
Sadly, he appears to be all in for Trump now.
I sometimes wish lefties had that kind of solidarity. Remember what we did to Al Franken?
Your second sentence is an example of why there isn’t solidarity. I have no solidarity with anyone who thought he needed to be taken down.
And it’s not even a solidarity on the right but more of a willingness to work with people they hate for mutual benefit, often with the intent to deal with them when that mutual benefit no longer requires the mutual part (eg the night of long knives).
It also wouldn’t surprise me if the loudest voices against Franken were agent provocateurs or worked up by them. Gotta always remember Russia and China (among others) want a highly divided West and the right wants a highly divided left.
Edit: that’s not to say the left doesn’t have divisions, even to the point where referring to it as a single coherent entity is probably a mistake, since there’s a lot of different ideas about how things should be, and sometimes those ideas even conflict with each other directly.
Nah fuck all that. The working class needs solidarity forever. Solidarity, forever. Literally the whole rest of human society is against us and they’ve been winning the whole time, but we’re bigger. The only thing they really fear is working class solidarity.
That’d be Chris Christy.
“We’re gonna need a bigger marker.”
“John, looks like we’re gonna need the black paper.”
Think this will change anything?
After immunity, these are official acts. Good luck.
Most of these charges predate his presidency.
The Supreme Court will rule that by becoming a us president, a person gains absolution for all their crimes, and cannot be charged with any crimes while in office.
So, taking over the government by force and killing people who disagree with you is actually not a crime at the moment. Hurry up Joe!!!
This is just Doom posting. The opinion was terrible and a major threat to democracy, but Robert specifically calls out a candidate running for presidency as an example of a “private act.”
Yeah I think the ruling was garbage too but I’m getting tired of the overly dramatic hot takes on this everywhere. Nuance is dead.
*Biden excepted.
I mean it really has been no secret at all that trump was close friends with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and at the very least was aware of what was going on for some time. More than likely he participated in some of the nefarious and weird ass crap going on at their properties and while that is certainly not proven, there sure is a lot of damning evidence (also his response when asked if he would release the Epstein files if elected a few weeks ago was hilarious lol). And people just simply don’t care. Like not even a little. At this point if it came out that trump was actually the one behind it all and he just had Epstein be the fall guy or something I still don’t think it would change anything at all.
people just simply don’t care. Like not even a little.
If they had a video of him raping a 13 year old it wouldn’t matter to MAGAs.
“the people in power hate him for raping those kids, that’s why I like him!”.
If that Russian Trump piss tape does exist, the other people involved are almost certainly underage.
To me it looks like the judge wants something to be seen. Wealthy-and-connected privilege? Maybe even these documents show how deep into the known names this hole runs? Without the ambiguity of “the only documented thing is a dinner”
But I’m not an expert on the issue and judges in general, so maybe I’m misinterpreting something
Whether it changes anything or not, the public deserves to know.
🤝
What in the world is that emoji? I think my eyes are getting worse.
It’s a hand shake 🤝
It’s a handshake! 🤝😄
They could have multi-angle IMAX video of Trump cornholing a dozen toddlers and the MAGats would still think he was the second coming of Christ.
It wouldn’t matter at all because “Bill Clinton did it too!!”
Are you kidding? That’s not the name of the game, it has always been RATINGS.
Nothing wrong with a little sunshine.
the judge added that the state’s leniency in the case “been the subject of much anger and has at times diminished the public’s perception of the criminal justice system”.
Mmm. Yes.
Very perceptive that one.
You can tell because of the way it is.
Will the info confirm or deny that Epstein was a kompromat operation?
Worth noting that these transcripts detail Trump forcing 12 year olds to act out lesbian sex while he watched, then give him sloppy head. And apparently when the BJ was kinda toothy (cuz, ya know, they’re 12,) he got angry and physical.
But sure, let’s elect him as king of the United States.
Source? Idk if joking bc this is the world we live in now
That is completely fucked up. Imagine wanting this guy to be the President.
Imagine being the victims and seeing him become president and all the people that support him. Sounds like hell
Could you quote from the document tge specific passage. Include page and paragrapj. None of these links work here.
What the fuck
The former and possibly future president of the USA, criticising the quality of sex work from the literal child he’s raping.
/r/conservative claim this testimony was retired and it was a fabrication. Can that be debunked ?
Pages 2 and 3 of the PDF in the link.
Was this case dismissed? Still ongoing? How is there not more on this? This would be prison for anyone else no question.
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No, you’re doing it wrong. When someone requests a source, it’s helpful to include a link in your response.
Interesting timing.
How so?
The release of the files came on the same day that a new Florida law took effect permitting grand jury documents from 2006 to be released.
This is close to the US election, which makes it very interesting. There are claims to Biden involved with Epstein. And with Trump, well… it’s a lot of claims about those two together. This would help clear things up in theory about that.
I’ve never once seen any claims of Biden and Epstein together.
We can only hope.
There’s NOTHING more Republican then Defending Literal Child Rapists!
It’s the whole political spectrum. Not just Republicans. They’re both power happy megalomaniac pervs. They just disagree on how to suck you dry.
sure. the right want to use children to do the sucking.
Go back to the bot shed
Lol I’m looking at your replies and they look quite scriptable
Lol classic bot. But yes I’m pretty scriptable and I long for a world where I don’t need to keep reminding people that the parties are not the same. Even Biden in a coma would be better than a perfectly lucid Trump. In fact I would posit that the more lucid Trump is, the worse it is to vote for him. So, again, go back to your christofascist friends
Are you unironically boasting that the megalomaniac you choose as your master is better than the megalomaniac someone else chose as theirs?
Lol, why am I even taking the time with you is a mystery. Yes, my megalomaniac of choice is not a proven serial rapist like yours, and is not actively seeking hate and oppression and the end of even any illusion of democracy.
Lol what would be “mine”? I don’t even vote.
Agreed! I ALWAYS see DEMOCRATS defending the Child Rapists in their ranks too!
Like who?
*crickets chirping*
The fact that you can’t detect sarcasm doesn’t make you special (looking at all the down votes that person got).
Yeah, like Dennis Hastert, Mark Foley, or Matt Gaetz. Oh wait, they’re all Republicans. I guess the Democrats have Anthony Weiner. Although Weiner got crucified immediately, unlike Child Rapist Gaetz.
