Biden’s latest attempt to convince everyone he has what it takes to stay in the race will air at 6:30 PM Eastern / 3:30 PM Pacific.

More on where and how to watch here:

https://apnews.com/article/how-to-watch-biden-press-conference-a70590e7574fc9680229b6b6289f6a02

My expectation is that it will be on all the usual sources. CNN, MSNBC, etc. etc. with in depth coverage on the talking head shows later tonight.

Edit Conference is running 20+ 50+ minutes late after already being pushed back 1 hour from 5:30 to 6:30.

Not sure if that’s good news or bad news.

Here we go! 58 minutes late, but he’s on a roll talking about NATO.

Oh, snap! Reminding everyone that Article 5 has only been used once… 9/11.

Speech ran less than 10 minutes, but was a strong speech, now the questions.

Fumbles on the first answer, calling out “Vice President Trump”. :(

Ended after almost an hour with one final question on “Vice President Trump” - Biden’s answer “Listen to him.” End conference.

Overall, I’m pretty happy with how it went!

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    This is like, actually the worst answer he’s given in the conference. Like, dude, you are polling in the 30s. Don’t bring up the polling if you are trying to make your case. Whatever you do pretend the polling doesn’t exist.

    Biden: No ones saying that.

    Bruh. Everyones saying that. Fuck he fumbled ENTIRELY on the final question. That went from minor win/ good to… fucking disaster in that last minute.

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        Yeah I had it as a slight win even with the first couple major gaffes.

        It doesn’t matter that he had several good, if spoken slowly, cogent answers on Ukraine, Europe, defensive production and budget, etc…

        That last question: “Talk to him” and “The campaign hasn’t started”.

        Bruh.

        BRUH

        That puts more weight on the first few gaffes. Like jesus christ dude just take the fucking W and walk off the god damned stage.

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    Jesus, Joe. That last statement you gave the Republicans the sound bite for the ages:

    “Listen to him.”

    Fucking dumbass. Dumb dumb dumb dumb.

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      “Listen to him.”

      He meant “If you think I sound incoherent sometimes, you should listen to how bad he (Trump) sounds.”

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      He could have just walked off stage.

      But he couldn’t help himself, just one more, and what a whopper of a sound bite.

      It’s almost like there’s a lesson in here about Joe Biden not knowing when to quit.

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      Like three times, and then said he’d beat Trump a second later…

      I don’t think he realized.

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        He didn’t.

        And that will be used against him too. Not only did he make the gaffe, he didn’t even realize he made the gaffe.

        (And for the record, it’s sad that voters are holding Biden to a much higher standard than Trump. But here we are.)

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          Dude.

          It’s sad that this is the standard we’re holding Biden too…

          You know what a momma cat does when it can’t feed all the kittens? It carries the runt off and abandons it

          The Republican party is the runt, we can’t save both and the Dem party has the best chance of surviving.

          Why waste valuable time and effort calling on trump to step down? He’s literally never going to do it and there’s zero chance republicans go against him

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            Because the average voter is an idiot and only hearing the Biden dementia stuff makes them more likely to vote for the orange fascist because they haven’t heard nor care about project 2025 and don’t remember their basic elementary school history lessons.

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          He’s been a gaffe machine his entire life. I don’t think that’s a sign of an old, decrepit mind, but the sign that the same Biden who referred to his running mate in 2008 as “Barack America” and his running mate’s opponent as “George” (rather than John McCain) is running for President in 2024. I think I like his answer. “You can either watch what I say during a high-pressure interview for 90 minutes, or you can watch what I did for 3.5 years with a staunch opposition throwing out the road blocks every chance they got. But if you vote against me, you get Project 2025. You might want to look that up before you cast your vote.”

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          If you have no intention of ever supporting Trump, it doesn’t matter what he does. It would be nice if the not Trump option wasn’t so similar in age and mental capacity.

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          (And for the record, it’s sad that voters are holding Biden to a much higher standard than Trump. But here we are.)

          Except that’s been the whole point of this exercise from day one!

          The voters on the right have proven that they have NO standards that a candidate needs to live up to, while the voters on the left are the ones who are screaming “we need to have high standards for the people who are going to run the country”

          Until recently, while the left would have preferred an even better candidate, Biden at least just barely fell above the seemingly minimum bar, especially when compared against Trump. But now Biden seems to have fallen right to the cusp of where the voters who still have standards are wondering if he’s fallen below them, and if there’s might be a better option, both from the standpoint of meeting their standards, and the standpoint of actually being able to win against Trump, who MUST lose for our nation to avoid disaster.

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          (And for the record, it’s sad that voters are holding Biden to a much higher standard than Trump. But here we are.)

          Trump already fails even lower standards. In fact, I can’t think of any serious standard that Trump doesn’t fail.

          “don’t be a jackass” Fail.

          “don’t be a fascist.” double fail.

          “Be human.” Tripple fail.

          “don’t be a rapist”. fail-tacular.

          “Don’t be a child rapist”… Failing-spree.

          In any case, I think a lot of people are afraid of trump winning- and with very good cause, so Biden has a lot of scrutiny. “I beat him before” doesn’t really hold water. he squeaked that under the wire in four states, any 3 of which flipping would have given it to trump. (PA, AZ, GA, CO,) and plenty of others were pretty damn close, too. Trump has had 4 years to improve his image and energize his base. Biden is less popular than he was in 2020. Anyone whose not worried is gonna have a rude awakening, I think.

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    Well that was fun. Every body stand up and stay standing for at least 5 minutes.

    Walk around the house, go to the yard, whatever; get your heart pumping blood.

    It will be time to return to our regular doom posting shortly, but in the mean time, look out for yourselves kings and queens: Its your health that matters.

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      I just saw a stat saying he hasn’t had a full cabinet meeting since last October? So take press conferences out of it… it’s kind of dire how low a profile Biden is maintaining.

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/joe-biden-age-decline-democrats-angry/index.html

      "Ahead of closed-door Cabinet meetings that Biden attends, it is customary for Cabinet officials to submit questions and key talking points that they plan to present in front of Biden ahead of time to White House aides, two sources with direct knowledge told CNN.

      “The entire display is kind of an act,” one of those sources told CNN. “They would come and say, ‘Hey, the president is going to call on you about 25 minutes in, and ask this question. What are the bullet points you’ll respond with?’”

      The second source, who echoed that same description, said when Biden attends Cabinet meetings, they are “not free-wheeling, and pretty well-orchestrated.” And the meetings themselves are infrequent, with one Cabinet secretary telling CNN they are uncertain of Biden’s condition because they so rarely see him.

      In fact, the last full Cabinet meeting took place on October 2, 2023. Sources also said Cabinet meetings during the Obama years, which Biden attended as vice president, were not pre-scripted this way."

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        Man. Like.

        Putin is invading Europe. There is a genocide and a warm/ hot war in the middle east.

        And this guy doesn’t go to his cabinet meetings?

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          Yeah I’m really disappointed in Jordan hopping on the MSM dick riding train of focus on sleepy joe post the debate. Gotta follow the clicks I guess

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            For me, the breaking point was the debate. I said it then and I believe it now, Biden needs to step down, not as the candidate, but as the President.

            Turn it over to Harris, let her run the show through the end of the year and run for office.

            Biden just looked lost during the debate, it’s time for him to step aside.

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            Seriously? What motive is there to generate clicks? This isn’t a for-profit website.

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        Yea we should go back to Mike Pence falling asleep in the background…

        It’s not like the last 4 years have been worse than the past 4 years…

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      That one was the best one. I thought his answer though to the question about letting Harris take over the ticket if she was polling better was awful. I’m sure most of the ink will be spilled over Vice President trump and “listen to him” but that’s a simple flub and a poorly delivered quip.

      We are being told, and I really do believe, that a second trump term could bring about a fascist takeover, project 2025 is legitimately frightening and the Supreme Court seems eager to make this happen.

      Saying that he wouldn’t go for who had the best shot he’d only step away if he knew for certain he would lose because of some nebulous “only I can finish the job here” is straight ego tripping.

      Someone else has a better shot at saving our very democracy and Biden would bet it all on Biden because he thinks Biden is singularly capable of doing… something. No idea what. And that’s more important to him which is fucking wild

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    CNN pundits saying this is going to happen for every public appearance until Biden drops out. The scrutiny.

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    So there’s a premade list of who gets to ask a question?

    Also. Joe’s all jacked up on mountain dew and just fucking said trump is his vice president…

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    If only his speech were one-tenth as good as his deeds.

    His inability to communicate obscures his accomplishments.

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      Misread what you posted at first … But yeah agree.

      He used to be the catty bitch. Now he’s a tired granny.

      Still vote for his saggy shriveled left nuts before Trump though.

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    The #1 thing I was looking for is Biden’s face when someone is talking to him.

    During the debate and the interview with Stephanopoulos, he had this vacant, slack jawed look like he didn’t know where he was or what was going on.

    So far, he has completely avoided that. He looks active and engaged.

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      Not a great sign that this praise sounds like the doctor’s notes from my toddler’s last check-up.

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            Yep. Like when Biden ordered every federal agency back to the office

            For pretty much no reason. He just thought he knew better than every agency head and apparently this was what he wanted to actually put effort behind.

            It’s weird, one of the few things he really did on his own, and it never gets brought up

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              Ah so Biden did something stupid, that means others get a pass to also assume their knowledge is comprehensive without evidence. Perfect argument.

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      During the debate and the interview with Stephanopoulos, he had this vacant, slack jawed look like he didn’t know where he was or what was going on.

      Its a much better performance. Can it move the needle though?

      Its not us, the wonk’s of the wonk’s who need to be moved. Its Average Voter who needs to be moved. Biden needs big W’s to get back in this, not slightly smaller L’s. Also, he called Zelnzkiy Putin, and Kamela Harris with Trump, thats whats trending at the moment. Gonna be much harder to get “industrial policy regarding defensive capabilities” trending.

      Is this enough?

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          I’ve learned that whenever there’s an inflection point in Israel, the outcome is “whatever helps Bibi.”

          So… I wouldn’t bet on that, as the consensus seems to be that a prolonged war helps him stay in power. I don’t know how, but somehow the ceasefire will not work out.

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        Dude it was all meth back then

        Vitamin B12 in the ass, meth, Dexedrine, we were just getting things in full swing with our full control of the natural world at all times and the girl-can’t-get-pregnant pills and it was basically just a normal thing like yo I’ll have some meth and then I’ll have energy and can focus