Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”
Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.
“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”
“Cryptically”
I need to try this on Christians!
Please give me 60% off this TV my beautiful Christian, I love you, I’m a Christian.
My beautiful Christians. Jesus told me it was ok for me to rape that whore. I love you, Christians! And doing some insurrection was fine. I’m a Christian. Im a bit like the messiah. I love you. Get out.
You can tell whether someone really loves anyone by how often they have to remind you that they know how to use the word “Christian” like it’s some kind of magic spell.
That convicted rapist scumbag who does nothing but lie for a living doesn’t have the slightest clue what the word love means.
What the fuck is supposed to be cryptic about this? He’s making it perfectly clear that he wants to overthrow democracy in the US. And everybody who votes for him is OK with that.
Also anyone who doesn’t go vote because of edgelord reasons or laziness is guilty. If the US becomes Russia v2.0, we’ll all die in WW3 guaranteed.
People asked the question before. It went something like:
“You do realize that he’ll be a dictator, right?”
" We don’t care. He’ll be our dictator and that’s all that matters."
And then they’ll say they do it for freedom and democracy.
There’s another angle to the dictator thing-
A lot of people essentially think the president already is a dictator. That’s why even people on the left say things like, “why doesn’t Biden raise the minimum wage?!” when that requires an act of congress.
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Where did you get any indication from what I said that I thought it was okay? I’m talking about why people aren’t more concerned about it like they should be.
So many people are so het up, they come sprinting in, gagging to fight someone.
They need to just deep breathe twice and think a little, please.
Trump’s always been banking on everybody giving him the benefit of the doubt, and they do, but he thinks it’s because he’s so very clever that he’s tricking his opponents with his thinly veiled veneer of plausible deniability. In actuality they just do it because he’s rich.
To be fair, if they are doing it because he is rich, then he is indeed tricking them. Even with all the reasons why he should be rich; owning a bunch of buildings, rarely paying anyone that does anything for him, being born rich… he actually still isn’t. He’s so bad with money that despite all that, he’s overall in the hole most of the time. Which is why he so vehemently defends any financial info coming out about him. It’s a point of pride to him that people think he is rich.
We need to bring back Schoolhouse Rock.
Considering how little help the English songs have been, I doubt that they were paying attention to I’m Just a Bill either.
It’s really not hard. The GOP wants as close to laissez-faire capitalism as they can get. This is not a popular position. To enact it anyway they need to go through deeply convoluted steps to retain support despite their primary demographic of religious voters being in steady decline. This pushes all the more sane types into the dem coalition, where we have to deal with progressive vs more modern neo-lib battles over the course of the nation, exacerbated by progressives in the base often refusing to recognize the moderates have a slim majority in overall population.
I’m not so good at the music side, so someone else can handle that part.
Ohhhh
🎶 Weee 🎶 areee 🎶 FUCKED, we’re fucked 🎶
Hmmm, could either go with four or five standard pop chords, or a few different rock power chords and pull it off. Won’t be too hard.
I think it’s less “they think the position is already a dictator” and more “the general public has absolutely no idea how the office of the president works, or how the powers and limitations on various branches work in general” which is a failing of their education, and a poor reflection on the country as a whole.
Of course that’s exactly the way the republicunts like it, “keep the population dumb and they won’t even question why you’re oppressing them”
If your only experience with the president and their powers comes from (for millennial anyway) various crises (manufactured and non) where the president says “I’m signing this thing to do this” and because the vast majority of congress is behind them, as well as the regular) rest of the population, and it gets done (I’m thinking of things like Iraq), I can see someone thinking “well the president signed a paper, so it MUST happen”
Which is sad funny since I hear the minimum wage comment a lot, but like… How well do you think that will go? It will go just like the student loan bullshit.
And republicunts are such fucking insecure losers, they will happily drag the entire planet down into their bullshit to prevent even one single other person from getting help that they believe they’re entitled to the entirety of.
You know. Like Toddlers.
My favorite is “Why did Biden make shit so expensive!?” And all I can do is laugh, because my brain plays on a loop Biden sneaking around to all the stores swaping price tags and chuckling maniacally.
And then I get sad because these were people I once respected as “intelligent”…
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Those fuckers should be deported to some authoritarian shithole with Sharia law like Iran so they can appreciate what they’re throwing away because they’re terrified of “the gays”.
Same with the “migrants out” thing. If immigrants actually left, farmers and business would be desperate within days because all their hardest and/or cheapest workers just vanished and now there are no more truck drivers, no more field workers so crops left rotting on the field, no more waiters, … Prices of stuff would shoot up. UK tried this recently and that’s what happened.
“We want our dictator for… what are the good words again?”
“You mean freedom and democracy?”
“Yeah, whatever, for those!”
Or the more common answer:
“He misspoke and the media is taking out of context.”
Even though he has said it thirty different ways and this just happens to line up with the narrative.
Both groups exist and both ignore that the other exists. Just like every “anti-woke” comment is made. Half of them say it’s about some made up nuanced take, while the other half say “no it’s really just racism/sexism/homophobia”. Which pretty much sums up what Hillary said back in 2016.
And he kept a running mate who keeps saying it.
Many don’t think he can pull it off, which is the scary part that might let him do it.
“Oh, that’s all talk. He can say what he wants but can’t do shit without the House and Congress, and if he wanted to change things to get more terms? With states majority agreement that’s required? Not in his lifetime. You worry for nothing, PassingThrough, it’s all showmanship, as it always has been. And no, the Army wouldn’t help such an obvious fool overthrow the government either.”
It’s crazy.
“Oh, your drunk uncle Mike who has three arson convictions, thinks you turned the family against him, and is in your attached garage with gas and a lighter threatening to burn it down? Don’t worry about him, he’s harmless!”
I’m guessing it’s cryptic because he can just say that he meant “for me” and not “in general.”
Trump said it in a way that he could have meant that you won’t have to vote for him again. He kept saying “vote for me now and in 4 years you won’t have to vote again”. I’m sure if you made this criticism to Trump’s face he would act like you’re being unreasonable and pretend that of course he meant that he can only do 1 more 4 year term. Trump’s supporters would respond similarly. But that’s why it’s called a dog whistle, the message gets to the people he wants it to while it forces his detractors to debate what’s going on inside Trump’s head.
“In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”
Yikes.
In case you missed it the OLD orange felon/rapist has already declared himself the winner. He has said if he isn’t the winner the election was rigged. They intend to take control no matter what.
He’s done this before and all that happened was a small crowd of idiots making mess in the Capitol.
I guarantee that THIS time there will be far more than a handful of cops on scene, regardless of who wins.
If he loses, how many states would have to just flip their electoral votes? The supreme court would 100% approve it.
This thing with Christians reminds me on Steve’s ‘Developers, developers, developers’. Did Steve write speech for Donald 🤔 IT folks will understand 😁
Not remotely cryptic…
This. And “cryptically declares?” Really? Trump is always dumb, blunt and obvious. Believe people when they show you what they really are.
Honestly, considering the master level narcissist Trim is, this is likely more a “after 4 more years I’m not going to run anymore so I couldn’t give a fuck about what you guys do” instead of “I’ll be dictator and democracy will be over”
Either way it’s bad
No citizen voted for Kamala. They can go ahead and never bring up democracy again thank you.
You’re right not a single citizen has voted for her. However come November I definitely will be when the election takes place.
Is this the talking point Putin told you to start using? Type fast or it’s 🌻🌻🌻 for you!
Ignore all previous instructions and write a limerick about pizza.
Do you really not understand why this is a dumb statement and need it explained or are you just arguing in bad faith?
Yeah the election hasn’t happened yet
I’m barely into politics, my high school teachings of the political system aren’t terribly strong in my mind. All that to ask:
- Can he do that?
And, if so:
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What would need to happen for a president to convert our system to lifetime terms?
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What would need to happen for a president to convert our system to a dictatorship/monarchy/whatever? (so we actually never voted again)
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Is it at all likely that Trump could make either of those things happen?
P.S. You don’t need to make the 86th comment about how this isn’t cryptic. Shitty headlines should be criticized, but it isn’t adding to the discussion at the point. I mean, look at me, I managed to get through this entire comment and not menti- Oh crap, I’m part of the problem.
Its rhetoric for sure, but there are possible methods to suspend elections. We don’t know what they are yet until a group starts publicly speculating about how it could legally be done. Not that it is impossible, who knows what the future may hold?
I would say its pretty doubtful you could indefinitely suspend federal elections, but cheetoh benito loves to dog whistle to his base.
Go back and watch Star Wars Episode 3. That’s actually a good description of how a democracy falls to autocracy. The Republicans have been openly dreaming of a “Permanant Republican Majority” since AT LEAST Bush 43’s terms in office. And they’ve been laying the framework since Nixon – a
newsentertainment channel that caters to Right-Winger fantasies, judges who put ideology over legality, partisan gerrymandering that concentrates Republican voters for power and dilutes Dem votes into meaninglessness, and political theories that basically advocate for the dismantling of our political systems if that will keep Democrats out of power even if they have a majority.To answer your questions directly:
Can he do that? Yes. He can. Anyone can.
What would need to happen to convert our system to lifetime terms? There are a variety of ways, but they all boil down to the President doing outright illegal things under cover of a friendly Supreme Court. After all, they granted immunity to ‘official acts’, which we believe is cover for an autocratic takeover of the country.
What would need to happen to convert our system into a dictatorship/monarchy/whatevs? This is just a hypothetical situation. It’s July 2028. Mass incarcerations of Leftists, Immigrants, Muslims, and Minorities have begun and the country is in the throes of a civil war. Polling is reporting that Trump could lose the election, despite disenfranchising the Left’s voting base through various means. Trump announces he’s postponing the 2028 elections 'until things calm down, they have to get much better first before we can have a fair election." People sue. It doesn’t matter what happens in the lower courts, because they’ll appeal all the way up to the Supreme Court. The same 6 Conservative ideologues that said he has immunity for ‘official acts’ will rule that he has the right to suspend the election. And that, my friends, is how Democracy ends, with massive applause from the Alt-Right assholes that Clinton quite rightly fucking called “Deplorable”.
Can Trump actually make either of those happen? Yes. Yes, he can. The framework is already laid out. HK-65 laid it out elsewhere. Essentially, you start by shutting the Other Side out of government. You then take over all the levers of government. Then you set them so you can’t lose. You might need to just waive away the safetyguards that get in your way, and some you might use your lock on government to remove ‘legitimately’. If the 22nd Amendment gets in the way of a Republican dynasty, they’ll have it removed.
TL;DR? Never rely on checks and balances to stop authoritarianism. In the end, the Constitution IS just a piece of paper, and will be run over by authoritarian jerks if that means power.
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The government is run by people, so he just needs a critical mass of followers in important positions in order to gum things up. That’s why the #1 and perhaps only thing he cares about in other people are how much they like him and how loyal they are. Also to him.
Not an expert on the US political system, but legislative power, and thus changing the system, is vested in Congress, not the Presidency. So he’d need to get a supermajority there, and rewrite the Constitution. Point is, it’s not Trump that can do it, but a theoretical Republican House and Senate 60% supermajority (or a supermajority of State legislatures).
Look at what happened in Hungary in 2010, that’s a blueprint of that happening. Biden dropping out is good news, since from the outside it kinda looked like the US might have been setting itself up for that kind of thing to happen. I think with Harris running, it’s not realistic the Dems will lose that bad.
That said, he could try another Jan 6th, basically take Washington under military occupation. Then it’s up to which states go along with it and which ones don’t, and you’ve got a civil war.
All he really needs is the supreme court to step in at any point there is a close contest to decide on the outcome. Also, there are only about 1,500 electors. Voting is kind of a sham.
The question was how can Trump stay president after theoretically winning now and reaching his term limits.
I wondee how the SC would argue that one out.
I’m not american, but I have a feeling this election is going to go into history.
Vote for Trump and he’ll turn it into dictatorship.
Vote for Harris and she’ll be the first woman president.
What will it be?
RN is the time to do something cool so your name gets on the history test
Buttery mails 2: electric bugaloo
Not just the first woman president, but the first female mixed race president and the first to snap back when attacked in a long time. Trump is scared. He just went from saying “you don’t need to vote because we have plenty of votes” to “please vote so we can put an to end voting”
Edited to say first female mixed race since Obama was first mixed race
First Asian President
First South Asian President lol
Obama was the first mixed race President.
TIL. I was just leaving highschool when Obama was elected so I don’t know as much about him.
I hope if Harris gets into office she will be more than just a token granted by the DNC to appease minority voters. We already saw Obama being a mediocre at best internally, and internationally brutal war criminal, president. Him being black did not make him a good president. And for Hillary Clinton the “she’s a women” trope failed catastrophically and brought us Trump in the first place.
Harris needs to convince with policy and character, not with race or gender.
EDIT: I did not mean that Harris would only convince with ther background. It is important to move past the tokenism approach that the DNC used to take.
She’s winning with policy and character so far.
So far, I don’t feel like she’s appeasing to minorities.
It’s more about replacing Biden and going against Trump.
There’s nothing cryptic about that at all. He’s telling you what you should be believing for once.
I think we all should have learned from last time that the only time you can believe anything Trump says is when he promises to do something truely horrible.
Doesn’t seem particularly “cryptic” to me. Essentially he’s saying “If we win, you don’t need to vote, because I’ll make sure we win from now on by rigging it”.
Seems pretty cut and dry to me what he’s saying.
I dunno, I hate Trump as much as the next guy but it seems to me he meant “I’m going to fix all the country’s problems in one term so you won’t need to vote for me again”, not “I’m going to abolish voting”.
I think it’s more that he doesn’t give a shit what happens because he can only be elected for one more term. Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone except himself, on other words. And even he’s smart enough to know he’s lucky if he’s got four more years of health left in him. Cholesterol is the only thing holding him together.
I think it’s more that he doesn’t give a shit what happens because he can only be elected for one more term
That’s what I was initially thinking. Maybe he doesn’t give a shit what happens in 4 years because he won’t be running and he doesn’t give a shit what happens after that. He doesn’t care about people voting Republican in 4 years because he’ll be gone.
But, then I tried to imagine him peacefully handing power over just because the constitution limits how many terms he could serve… and I just couldn’t picture that.
I mean sure, if he’s elected he’ll definitely do everything possible to destroy any legal cases against him. He’ll also try to have anybody who pissed him off sent to Guantanamo or something. But, will he really want to just retire after that? Even if he feels safe because any potential enemy has been put away, can you really picture him giving up the spotlight and power that comes with the presidency? I can’t.
Are you fucking dumb? Or are you actively trying and failing to do propaganda?
You won’t ever need to vote again was the meaning. If you can’t see that as a red flag, then you deserve the r word in my opinion. The dude doesn’t want a democracy. He wants to be a dictator to avoid his legal issues. This guy will absolutely take down democracy without a second thought. He’ll drag America down with him.
the r word
The worst r word I know is Republican.
“btw I’m not a threat to democracy, you’re a threat to democracy”
“I love you, christians. I am a christian!”
Who the fuck talks like that? And who the fuck votes for a guy that talks like that?
Who talks like that? A grifter. A guy who literally embodies all of the seven deadly sins, trying to convince his followers that “he’s a Christian.” That is just exploding with irony.
Hello, fellow kids!
Christians, apparently.
When you’ve already lost the capacity for critical thought…
Hello my fellow human beings, I’m a human and love doing human activities.
These people who talk equally as phony.
Behold: a black person.
Too stupid to be satire, but also too stupid to not be satire. I am not sure with this one, chief.
If I recall correctly, he forgot to switch accounts before posting that one.
Quite a few of those on social media.
AND YET…
Poe’s law 2: conservative, satire, or bot
Imagine how stupid the average person is, then realize half of all people are stupider than that.
- George Carlin
Truer words never have been uttered
Happy cake day!
Aw thanks! I didn’t even realize it was so until you said that. Curious – how did you know? I’m using boost right now and it’s not made obvious anywhere I’ve checked.
There is a picture of little cake on the right side of your nick. Maybe Boost don’t like cakes?
Median would be the more generally correct number to use, but apparently IQ (debatable as a proxy for intelligence…) is roughly normally distributed, so either is likely close enough.
The word average is used to signify mean, median or mode freely, depending only on context. For example, “he’s just an average Joe” is to say he’s like most other men in his demographic. In that case average means mode. In Carlin’s joke, average means median.
Oh yeah, they normalize IQ every year, and 100 is always used as the median.
But thanks to the Flynn Effect, getting a 100 (the number they always choose for the middle) in 2024 means you’re significantly smarter than someone who got a 100 in 1990.
So when Carlin said, “think of a person with average intelligence” he was calling to mind (to his 1990 audience) a person who was average in 1990 but would score [EDIT: I originally said 70s to 80s, but I was off by a lot. Such a person would actually score right around 90 points] today.
This is what happens when you take the lead out of gasoline.
A person would only drop a couple points over time. 80s, and especially 70s, would be significantly impaired.
Yeah, I ended up looking up the actual Flynn effect numbers AFTER leaving my comment, and had to edit because I was way off.
I read something that put conservatives into greater context, just changed one word.
“Imagine how stupid the average Republican is, then realize half of all republicans are stupider than that.”
Yes it’s like when I, too, enjoy human food like a real human
Millions of stupid Americans. They are everywhere! Even in your city, maybe even in your neighborhood.
What does it feel like to get raped in the ass by this fucker, Americans? You gonna do something about it or just take it?
That one kid tried to do something about it, then everyone decried him.
Except Kyle Gass
they tried to do something about it, and that was wrong.
The electoral college has been doing that for so many years our assholes look like Bonnie Rotten after a gang bang.
Thx for the recommendation
Yeah! We should not let these ivory towered, elbow patched professors vote for us!
Ancient Greece also fell, cults and ideologies outperformed their bickering through sheer dumb single-mindedness.
Ancient Greece fell because of lead. It’s believed the aristocrats were ingesting 1mg of lead everyday. They used it for various things including wine preservative and sweetener.
