I get the idea of forcing Trump to waste resources in Florida, but really, the state has just been getting redder, and we don’t want to repeat the Hillary playbook.
Shore up support in the actual battleground states and the weaker “lean Dem” states (e.g., New Hampshire). 270 is all you need.
Did you see the article about Kamala Harris at The Villages? She got a good response. And no state is pure red nor pure blue. People change.
TL;dr - He’s 7 points ahead.
Note, even if she is unlikely to win the state, she could force them to campaign there a little and divest resources from places that are leaning blue. Nobody wants to take a “safe” state for granted after 2016.
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If you have any questions or comments about me, you can make a post to LW Support lemmy community.The abortion and marijuana ballot measures are on the Florida ballot. They need 60% to pass. If abortion gets 60% of the vote, what are the odds that Harris gets 50%?
So, if he loses Florida will he have to move again? Somewhere in the Midwest, maybe? Texas (until enough Democrats move there to turn it blue)?
Moscow, probably
she’s got my vote
Oh, how I would looooove to donnie lose Florida. That would be {chef’s kiss}.
I put this out last week. I was looking at the maps from 2012, 16, and 20, and then looking at the 2020 census product.
Since its not my day job I can’t prioritize the analysis I want to do, but at least in the aggregate, the demographics are there for a blue victory. If I can get around to it, I’ll post my results when I have them.
Nobody likes republicans in south Florida except for the few weirdos and fucking losers.
I’m not American so I’m a little confused.
If “polls” is surveys from individuals, but the popular vote doesn’t matter, then what’s the point of these headlines anyway?
The winner of the popular vote within the state wins the state’s electoral votes. And Florida has a sizeable number of electrical votes.
electrical votes
you mean eclectic votes?
its so weird that we have a difficult to understand electoral college system and yet one of the common arguments against ranked choice and party list voting is “its too hard to understand”
You don’t need to understand the EC to not spoil a FPTP ballot. You do need to understand a more complex process to not spoil a ranked choice ballot. That’s an argument I agree with in favor of score, STAR, or approval voting.
Of course the fact that it is mildly easier to understand than some alternatives does not excuse the fact that FPTP is awful for democracy.
Filing out an RCV ballot is no different than any other ranking system. Rank politicians in the order you’d like to vote for them. You may leave some or all blank.
That’s it. That’s the voter instruction. It’s not hard.
Just re-read my comment, I didn’t write anything about spoiling the ballot. I had typed it out but forgot deleting it. Sorry.
And giving two candidates the same rank? You are pretending that I wrote it is hard to do. I wrote that it is easier to spoil a ballot. People make mistakes.
Needing to rank candidates relative to each other is different from score voting where you just rank them.
A proper RCV ballot is just numbering candidates. On a computer screen, you might drag the names into order. Score voting isn’t just ranking them, you give each one a rating and then there’s about 3 different ways those scores can be used to determine a winner. RCV is simple, easy, and better than FPTP.
FL has 30 EC votes so a statewide poll on their opinions is pretty important. Having said that, we don’t know for sure whether or not the poll is accurate or indicative of the opinions of the people who will actually vote.
Every state gets a number of Electoral College votes, that’s a fixed number. And each state is winner take all, the popular vote doesn’t matter because every vote past 51% of a state’s election numbers is wasted. California has the highest population of US citizens, it generally is very liberal and Democrats win pretty often. From a local perspective, the GOP haven’t had significant votes after they started using very racist rhetoric about Hispanics, and it’s hard to find anyone in CA who isn’t Hispanic, Or the spouse of a Hispanic person, or the in-law, or just friends with all those same people, so it really ruined their numbers out here. So with the majority of the country living in this state, everything after 51% of our total vote numbers is ignored, those millions of votes don’t counter the very few votes coming out of Indiana, or Ohio, or Wisconsin. Our effective votes are a percentile below 1, low pop states have effective votes well above 1.
But, it still always matters how many people are voting up to that 51% mark, if the survey projects Harris at or above those numbers she’ll get all their EC votes, so that’s why the survey matters, it’s also how the candidates decide how to spend money, Harris won’t put $5mil into Idaho, they aren’t even close to voting Democrat and it’s one of the most openly racist states in the US the chance they would change their mind is very slim, so, they won’t waste the money there. In the end, it always comes down to how much money they raised, and how well they spent it.
Isn’t it make more sense to spend more money where you’re behind?
Like, if you’re so sure you would win at Cali anyway then why even try anymore? On the other hand, you might want to spend extra time and money in places like Idaho to convince and convert more people to vote for you?
I don’t think you understand how deeply racist the jello belt is. It’s a lost cause, mostly the democrats have to find the states close to tipping and organize in a hurry to make sure people actually show up and vote. The so called flip states are the battleground and there are states that have actually tried to change their election process to game the system so they ARE a flip state, so that the President who wins the state will feel more obligated to pay attention to the states needs, I know NV did this to some success Obama and Romney both spent a fair amount of money and time, with multiple stops in Reno and Vegas. It’s a strange thing, honestly I like the legislators who try and create very neck and neck districts to make politicians much more suseptible to their populaces opinions and therefore well being, but I also like living in a state where crazy doesn’t get to sit at the big kids table.
Yes but you only spend the money where you are behind by a small enough amount that you might change the result. So if a state is polling 51% / 49% it’s a great state to spend in because it might change the electoral college votes.
You want to spend money in states that could go either way. Swing states they’re called. There’s no real point in spending a ton of money in a place you can’t possibly win, either. Idaho would be a waste of money.
ah yes, swing states, that makes much more sense. thanks.
one more question if it’s not too much trouble. Is it mandatory for a president candidate to do a campaign in every single state? Or just the one they feel like it?
No, it’s not mandatory at all. That being said all states generally get a bare minimum (radio/tv ads) from local groups or pacs, but not generally the visits with crowds and all that. This was one of the issues that people had with Hillary’s campaign is that she only visited certain states, and completely ignored too many swing states that easily could have gone her way.
They don’t have to go anywhere if they don’t want to. It’s just about outreach and exposure.
Ask Hillary how ignoring “safe” states went for her though… She was too arrogant and underestimated Trump to all of our dismay…
The polls are STILL a bunch of shit
I’m happy the D line is going up, but the truth is, nobody knows what’s gonna happen.
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if only the people not allowed to vote in Florida could vote
doubt the US would be red or blue if everyone here could vote
doubt the US would be red or blue if everyone here could vote
It’s a binary choice: every vote that isn’t blue is red. As a bonus, if they want to vote next time too, it’ll be blue.
if it were a binary choice then it would reflect in nature
does not
the two party system is an illusion and you can escape the matrix