He runs from a FOX hosted debate? He must be scared shitless of that woman!
He’s making up so much ground, he does so much better when he stfu or just says the things people expect him to say.
The more time he spends away from national cameras the better, that debate was brutal for him, it made even his followers have some doubts.
Well, it did reveal what kind of idiot he is, so this debate was extremely useful for the voters.
Chickens naturally run from the fox
For serious. That’s his cheer squad, guaranteed to try to help him. I thought she’d reject and he’d make a big deal out of it for the rest of the campaign. What a coward. Oh, Donnie. You shitbag.
I thought she’d reject and he’d make a big deal out of it for the rest of the campaign.
That was exactly what I was expecting, too. But hey, Donny saved us ;-)
He did so poorly during the last one that his handlers are sure to keep him away from that debate stage at any cost, especially when it’s so close to the election. They can’t afford to have him say more dumb shit because they don’t have gaffe-prone Joe Biden to grab soundbytes to play on repeat and the news will just report on Trump’s nonsense.
she put the fear in him
And I refuse to get in a ring with Tyson…so, I can relate to his completely rational fear.
Just dodge when his outline flashes. After 90 seconds he starts throwing more normal punches and you can start doing some damage.
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lol, what a coward. Won’t even do a debate on a platform that goes all out to suck his dick.
I think he’s just trying to coast on whatever popularity he has without fucking anything up. If anything this is probably the best call he could make. Which is why it’s probably someone close to him telling him not to do anything stupid. Because, let’s be honest, he’s so dumb he’d go for it in a heartbeat.
No doubt his counselors are telling him to STFU, ride it out.
And fuck all y’all (not you OP!) saying he’s always been this stupid. Been watching the man, more closely than I wanted to, over the last 6-years. His mind is circling the drain so fast even I’m stunned.
My read is that he like what he see’s in the polling and he see’s no reason to rearrange the pieces on the board. Harris has been struggling and backsliding on her own via bad campaign decisions. She blew her momentum on being “pro-buisness” and trying to court Republicans. Any idiot would have known the natural outcome of that strategy, but if you are a Democratic strategist, you aren’t just “any idiot”.
Over the next couple of days Harris is going to start going from dropping in the polls to dropping in the probabilistic models predictions of victory. Right now, we don’t even need to worry about supreme court fuckery, because Harris is on track to lose this organically.
Harris needs to splash some cold water over her face, and go back to what was working. She could easily bite back 2-3% in the polling coming out strongly against genocide. Its been her game to lose since she took the reigns.
Are you suggesting that because people aren’t as excited now as they were when Biden first dropped out and endorsed Harris, she’s tanking?
If you are, this is a bad argument. Anyone who knows politics knows her momentum was always going to slow, and polls will ebb and flow.
The polls have shown this is a historically close election, it has been since Harris announced and will be until election day.
Her poll numbers went from flatlined to now declining. She’s not only not gaining ground, she is now losing ground.
If you are, this is a bad argument. Anyone who knows politics knows her momentum was always going to slow, and polls will ebb and flow.
Yeah, I’m not interested in what most lemmings think is a bad or a good argument. Most lemming are fucking idiots when it comes to politics and are just here to cheer on their team. They are allergic to reality when it disagrees with how they wish things were.
The polls have shown this is a historically close election, it has been since Harris announced and will be until election day.
Yeah except that they are not. Its not even close to close right now. Harris has a -5 structural disadvantage baked into the EC map. So nationally, she needs to be up by 5 to be even. She’s not up by five, she’s up by 2-3, which means she’s not even overcoming structural bias (MOE not even worth discussing here). Biden was up by +9 on election day. It came down to something like 80k total votes that gave Biden the office?
So no. Kamala isn’t winning. She’s under performing Biden 2020. By a lot. She needs to do better or she’ll lose this thing.
Yeah, I’m not interested in what most lemmings think is a bad or a good argument.
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It is difficult to get someone to understand something when their identity depends upon them not understanding it.
Funny, I expected someone to say this to you.
What do I give a fuck what someone’s whose world view prevents them from a accurately assessing the present thinks?
Again, you keep saying things that should belong in a selfawarewolves community.
Yeah you continually prove that quite well.
The lion, the witch, and the audacity of this bitch…
Why does every major poll say the opposite of your lie?
In a week or two when this is the major news cycle, your going to apologize right?
Absolutely, hope you do the same
And what would I be apologizing for? I made no accusations of you, like you did me.
Apologize for the lying
Ah man we need that RemindMe bot so I don’t have to set a reminder.
That doesn’t line up as how the Republican campaign has been acting. For instance, they’ve started spending in areas like ME-2 which has been pretty strongly Republican for a while
Down ballot they’re republicans are uping spending in places that should be theoretically solidly red like Nebraska (senate race) and Indiana (governor race)
How I’d read it has more to do with how Trump’s been having more obvious mental decline lately. A second debate would really show that
How I’d read it has more to do with how Trump’s been having more obvious mental decline lately. A second debate would really show that
You need to think about who debates are for. Both you and I know both sides are going to claim a W. I mean, hell, look at the bag of idiots around this forum who were claiming that Joe Biden won his debate against Trump. Both sides are convinced at this point; thats not why you have them. You want a debate if you are behind because you need to somehow move the configuration of the conversation. And if Republicans are spending in ME-2? Bruh who gives a fuck about ME-2. Kamala is shaping up to lose PA. Its looking like she’ll lose NC and GA and AZ. If she loses PA and any one of those states, its over.
Kamala has one path to the white house at this point. She needs to repair her relationship with the uncommitted movement and drive turn-out among Democrats and Democratic likelies. Right now 2-3% of registered Democrats aren’t going to show up for her based on her (and Bidens) position on Gaza. She needs to stop pretending that there are any sane voters left on the Republican side and stop putting effort into them and focus on the people that can actually get her elected.
That is missing my point about their spending changes. Districts and states are hardly isolated from each other. The movments within one tends to correlate well with others. If there’s slipage for republicans in fairly red ME-2, it bodes well for other states
Republicans are more resource limited right now compared to dems. If think they need to allocate money away from those swing states into ME-2 (which running up the score in doesn’t particularly matter), what does that say about how they view the race?
Not to say they couldn’t be just allocating poorly and making poor choices, but in that case then this whole discussion is moot about reading into their decisions as to not to debate
So a couple things. First I think that the Trump campaign in particular and unique among campaigns doesn’t share when ti comes to funds. Most campaigns support other campaigns.
Second, the ME-2 spending I think your’re referencing is this: https://mainemorningstar.com/2024/09/23/billionaire-backed-midwest-super-pac-spending-millions-on-maines-cd2-race/, which is a specific outside pac spending on that race. But to be clear, this isn’t the RNC or the Trump campaign doing the spending, so it bears little relevance to your point. So I think you are wrong to read anything about the microscopic ME-2 race into literally anything else. Far far far more telling are the polls in big states like PA, GA, AZ, NC, etc… where Harris’s polling went from stagnant to declining.
Generally, the person losing an election is the one that wants a debate and the one winning wants to avoid exposure to any kinds of potential mishaps. Its a strategically good decision for Trump to sandbag and not give Harris an opportunity to get some more sound bytes (not like it really matters).
ME-02 was just a small example. The ME-02 I believe was on the presidential race (Maine like Nebraska splits their electoral votes). The link was about the congressional race. To be fair, I mostly just remember it because they ran an ad that accidentally stated with “Dear Virginia” in Maine. Trump has also been relying more on PACs for his campaign to be fair as he’s been outsourcing a lot more. Regardless, they’ve also done things like as another example pull money out of New Hampshire which they thought they, while probably not winning, could at least narrow margins on earlier with Biden in
Normally, I’d agree with that about debating. However, even other republicans were earlier urging trump to debate again and he still declined
Did fox just offer him the friendliest possible venue for a massive media event, days before the election, and he turned it down?
I presumed the plan was to either let the harris campaign say no to fox so trump could call her a coward, or get a friendly venue to hammer whatever comey-esque hillary’s emails nonsense russia cooks up this time.
Does trump turning this down seem like yet another own goal to anyone else? Or have I been underestimating how much the debate hurt him?
His cognitive decline might be accelerating too fast.
You may be underestimating the depth of the narcissistic wound Kamala dealt him at the debate.
Calling it now:
Since there’s not enough time left for him to recover from this brutal ego bruise, I predict he’ll only do rallies from now on, or appearances on far-right media, because he’ll retreat to his snowglobe for reassurance for a while. He’ll avoid addressing Kamala directly, but he’ll ramp up his own network and rile up his mob. His team will struggle to rein him in, and some appearances might be cancelled.
He’s been more restrained at his rallies than I expected (he’s unhinged, sure, but only mildly more so). It may take him years – if at all – to recover from being so thoroughly bodied by a minority woman.
I’m not saying anyone should care about him but I imagine two assassination attempts fucked with him too. He just announced rallies at Madison Square Garden and Coachella when he should be in swing states. People are trying to create rational reasons for it — like winning the House so he can steal the election — but I think he’s shook.
but I think he’s shook.
Eh, I disagree. He lacks the self-introspection to be unnerved. After all, he did go back to Butler PA.
I believe it. The stories about him being deeply affected seemed plausible.
I suspect that the psychological effects of being nearly killed would operate below the level of self-introspection. Like trauma just happens and changes your behavior, whether you’re very self aware or a senile narcissist.
He’s picking venues that will let him get away with not paying them. He has a history of doing that, and many venues are telling his campaign no unless they pay upfront. Which is not a phrase he’s ever been familiar with.
The election is going to be tight. Right now, Harris leads very, very slightly, by about three points. FiveThirtyEight placed the odds at about 53-47 as of yesterday (and they’re historically pretty good). Trump got his ass handed to him at the last debate, and he knows it. Unless he was able to git gud really fast, a 2nd debate would not improve his chances. Yes, he looks weak by not taking it on Fox of all places, but that’s better than taking it an doing just as badly a 2nd time. There’s almost no upside to him accepting an invitation to a debate.
But.
Trump is also incredibly egotistical. He wants to be on stage, and he thinks that he’s good at debating. He wants to be seen; he needs to be seen. Turning down free publicity to present himself first–and his policies a distant second–on a national television program witnessed by millions of people, that’s gotta hurt him.
What a cuck.
All no cluck pluck?
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