Don’t try to be Kennedy.

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    I’m vegan but when people question my manhood, I tell them I love eating bear balls and I invite them to a hunt. Then, when we finally find a bear with balls that are worthy of me breaking my veganism, I just run. I usually only invite stupid people who are not more athletic than myself. It works out. Everyone gets a story to tell.

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    Don’t try to be Kennedy.

    Don’t try to be that Kennedy.

    JFK’s daughter Caroline seems to be a basically sensible person.

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    If I’m eating meat from a wild animal I’m cooking it long and slow to kill anything it might have.

    My favorite is putting some deer meat and sauerkraut in a crock pot for 6-8 hours and slapping it on toasted rolls with mustard. A friend did that with a deer they hit with a car and it was amazing and I don’t think I have any brain worms.

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      Pretty sure Maui’s handled worse, should be good. Deer works well low and slow? I have almost no experience with it, woulda figured that’d work badly with how lean it is.

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        Low and slow is often the best way with lean meat, especially with some veg to keep it moist. I wouldn’t be surprised if something in the sauerkraut acts as a tenderizer too, the fermenty-guys or the acidity or something.

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      Just get it tested for chronic wasting disease if that’s a thing in the area you live. Cooking probably can’t kill that, as it’s a prion disease.

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        Is chronic wasting disease communicable between species? I thought prions were species-specific.

        Edit: I was curious and looked it up. It’s not currently communicable to humans but that could change as the prion evolves. Avoid eating infected meat, though it probably won’t affect you, being patient zero would suck.

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          Sounds about right. Scrapie (similar disease in sheep) never seems to have become transmissible to humans, but the cattle version did. So it’s worth avoiding.

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    I think this was reported a few weeks ago when it first came out. Crazy how even the vegans caught it from cross-contamination, that bear must have been riddled with them.

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    Trichinosis is rumoured to be “what done for” the franklin expedition to find the north west passage.

    The Jens Monk expedition lost 62 men to Trichinosis, and returned home with only 3 men alive.

    https://canadiangeographic.ca/articles/jens-munk-an-expedition-ahead-of-its-time/

    I love reading about these guys, just so courageous. I’m sat here looking at spreadsheets worrying about emails. These guys did the equivalent of flying to mars in a washing machine, battling ferocious martians, succumbing to a war of attrition against a mysterious ailment, before un-dying and coming back home.

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      Biomagnification is a thing, but people still eat tons of carnivores, like fish.

      Eg for biomagnification is tuna has a high amount of mercury.

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        I’ve always heard from my biochemist buddies, you are what you eat plus 1 ‰ (per mil).

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        Early humans ate lions. Even pre-human ancestors since neanderthals did too and we share a common ancestor. So I guess it’s okay to have carnivores as part of a varied diet of various meats and plants.

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            But if we had been eating it since before we were human, we evolved to eat it. It was selected for.

            I mean I wouldn’t want anyone to eat a lion now, but that’s a different story.

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              If we can’t eat it raw then I’d argue we didn’t evolve to eat it

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                Why? Hominids used fire to cook food long before Homo Sapiens evolved.

                https://www.dw.com/en/evidence-of-cooking-780000-years-ago-rewrites-human-history/a-63812031

                Edit: I think the issue a lot of people have with saying that we evolved to be able to do something means that we still have to do it. We evolved to eat meat. We can survive just fine on a plant-based diet now that we’ve domesticated the right crops, so it’s no longer necessary. There hasn’t been near enough time to evolve into herbivores, if that’s the eventual path we go on, but we can be herbivores if we choose. Which is one of the amazing things about being human- we can defy evolution.

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      I don’t think that applies in a broad sense if you include fish , but everything I know about bear meat says that you have to cook the shit out of it specifically to kill the many parasites that the bear’a immune system keeps at bay (but doesn’t completely destroy) while it’s alive. Eating rare bear meat is incredibly stupid.

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        Eating any rare wild game is stupid.

        You’re eating a wild animal, you have no idea what it’s been eating, drinking, or rolling around in. Cook the hell out of it.

        Last time I made elk, I slow cooked it for like 8 hours. It was fall apart tender, but it had been in boiling broth for many hours. You can make delicious meals with wild game, you just have to cook it right.

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      The reasons not to eat a carnivore are the exact same reasons not to eat an herbivore, just some of them more so. The higher the trophic level of your food, the more bioaccumulation. There is no rational reason to eat animals when bountiful alternatives exist.

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      Lmao is that like dollar store version opposite day vegan? A dang ol’ carnist? lol bro that shit is stupid. Tray saying it in the mirror, you’ll see. Lmao dumbass

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    Other than the large number of people, this is not much of a story. Living in a place where bear hunting has a legal season, ( it just finished up here), how to properly cook bear meat is well known. So the risk is virtually zero. This sounds like a case of an ignorant cook serving badly prepared food. Not much different than a cook serving salad greens that were improperly washed and poisoning a large number of people with salmonella.

    The moral of the story is: Learn how to cook foods properly with proper sanitation if you are going to serve a bunch of people. And the knowledge of how to it properly is a mere google search away.

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      Right? This is just poor understanding of food safety. People that practice poor food safety have a higher chance of getting foodborne illness. Shocking.

      Wild game especially should be handled with care because it has a higher risk of contamination. If this was an outbreak of Trichinosis from eating undercooked farm raised pigs that would at least be marginally news worthy. Getting it from undercooked wild game is like borderline expected.