I was going through my Wal-Mart+ subscription plan that I got for free and I saw their offers. One of which was EMeals, that was a 60-day trial. I thought that this was like Blue Apron or other meal delivery services so I thought I’d take a crack at it and hope that it would get me on a path to eat better.

Turns out, it’s just a meal planner. And it’s absurd to me why and how would anyone pay for something when there are countless and countless recipes and meal planners readily available for free. Who’d the fuck would want to pay for a planner? That’s like paying for a calendar app.

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    The meal subscription services strike me as premade salads on steroids. You’re paying a premium for all the labor, ingredients, (excessive) packaging, shipping, their profit, etc and you still have to put it together and cook it. It really isn’t that hard to look up a couple of recipes, buy the ingredients (you’d probably be going to the store anyway) and prep for 30 or so minutes a night. If you make full recipes you’ll probably have leftovers so you won’t even have to cook the next day.

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      I agree for the big ones, but we have a local one I’ve subscribed to a few times, for a couple months at a time.

      They pull all the ingredients from local farms, do local delivery or pickup at farmer’s markets, and they’re minimal on packaging, and they reuse the bags and ice packs. I haven’t done it in a while but it was pretty nice and it was helpful to break out of the routine of the same meals week in and out.

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      Did one for a while. It cut down on grocery store trips and meal planning so it gave some peace of mind, but I prefer either cooking simple meals or large meals (for leftovers) and they were neither. Most were delicious but took anywhere from 30-60 minutes. Most sea portioned for two so I ended up cooking nearly every single night and I hit a wall with it.

      I can definitely see why people do it, sometimes the cost is worth the convenience.

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      I was actually enjoying Blue Apron for a while, mainly because it was stuff that I’d never thought to try making before, but the amount of trash generated from each box delivered was too much for my conscience. I wish they didn’t use so many plastic wrappers and had some way of returning the boxes with the insulation.

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        And it’s way too much charge for the quality of the meat and produce. They give ground pork at beef steak prices and the produce isn’t as carefully selected as I would have picked.

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        The insulation alone with them and Hello Fresh had me hang them up for good after a couple tries. It was nice to try recipes I wouldn’t think to search online for but yeah, that packaging situation was god-awful.

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    Streaming services esp for millennials considering most of fnem have the know how for sailing the high sees.

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      I agree but also you’d be surprised how many actually piggy backed off a friend. I know because in my circle of friends-acquaintances of about 60 people in high school only 1 other besides me was actually competent enough with technology to the point of trying to pirate. Everyone else just got burnt cds and usb sticks from us.

      To this day when I meet other millennials there’s honestly more tech illiterate than not and I think it’s the small but vocal minority that exist on places like this and reddit that carry the stereotype that all millennials are good at technology.

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    Tax return filings in the US. There are free options provided by the paid companies… So that they can prevent real changes.

    Kinda like pharmaceutical companies when the public demands cheaper prices. The pharmaceutical companies fight back with “what if instead of that we set up some programs that people can use for cheaper medicine! Win win! Then you don’t have to make any real changes that might hurt us?”

    Same with taxes. The accounting software companies and advisors companies said “wait hold on, you don’t need to make taxes simpler and tank our business. Keep them complicated and well offer free alternatives that are just as easy as our paid services that people can pick if they don’t want to pay! Win win!”

    Which obviously I think is a crap solution. However if you are paying for someone to do your taxes you should stop. There are a lot of easy free services out there that make it pretty much effortless. They are just as good as the paid services now.

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      Tax return filings in the US. There are free options provided by the paid companies… So that they can prevent real changes.

      https://directfile.irs.gov/ (Or Google “IRS Direct File” if you don’t trust links)

      Directs File goes directly to IRS, without going through a third party company.

      If your state doesn’t have direct file, then you’ll have to find a “IRS Partner” that gives a free option:

      https://apps.irs.gov/app/freeFile/browse-all-offers/ (Google “IRS Free File Trusted Partners”)

      Remember: Government sites always ends in .gov

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      This year I haven’t worked any traditional employment, but have done various projects for friends in exchange for money.

      When I just had a typical job, taxes were almost fire-and-forget easy…but I’m a little worried about that whole process this year to be honest.

      A lot of times the free one only covers that “I have a typical job” case…but anything different and they’re like “OH YOU NEED BUSINESS-OWNER PREMIUM PLUS” or something.

      (I haven’t started a business and earned maybe 4 figures this year…) 😅

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      Free porn tends to be full of abuse towards its actors. Not that paid porn is automatically ethical but there are definitely indie options where no one is being coerced into performing sexual acts they’re not comfortable with. Also if you have a niche fetish sometimes the only options are paywalled.

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      How is it surprising people pay for operating systems? The vast majority of computers sold are bundled with an operating system license, and most people just use what came with the computer.

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        Uhhhh you answered your own question. Why pay for an OS when it should either be included, or free Linux.

        Therefore it’s surprising when people pay for an OS.

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          I use windows. I haven’t paid for a windows key since windows 7 iirc. Windows has been free for years. (I know you pay with your data etc. Good luck convincing average Joe who uses all social media services that this even matters)

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            Sames. I haven’t paid for a Windows OS since Windows XP.

            The only way I ever got to the latest Windows OS, is either being given a machine with the latest version on it or I get a PC built but pirate a serial or a copy.

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              Where are these surprising purchases then? People either use it for free, in which case they haven’t paid for it, or they bought it in a bundle with their PC, which is again very common.

              Who is actually buying Windows standalone?

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                Exactly. You can buy windows OS standalone without it coming in a package with a pc. It’s rare. That’s why it’s surprising.

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                  Fair enough. To me the fact people don’t do it and that it’s rare is perfectly expected. In other words, I would be surprised if people commonly did that, but they don’t, so I don’t see anything surprising. But I can see your point of view, it’s looking at it a bit differently.

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                Who is actually buying Windows standalone?

                People who build their own PC and want to use an OS that they are familiar with. Especially when you want to game, windows is just easier than any free os and you can get a legit key for 20-30 bucks, while pirating windows has become a lot more complicated since XP.

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                  Every time I saw someone I know built a PC, they reused the license key from their previous one. And the first one was a free key from their university.

                  It definitely happens though!

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            That’s not the point. You’re buying a pc, it comes with it and sometimes costs extra.

            This sub is about what’s surprising things people buy. Buying an OS is surprising, because it’s either part of the package deal for a new pc, or you can just use linux.

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              I think what you are trying to say is “buying an OS not as part of a package deal is surprising”. To that I would agree.

              But most people are buying an OS as part of a package deal, so most purchases of an OS are not surprising.

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                I’m not “trying” to say anything lol. OP said operating systems. I’m talking about operating systems. Not a pc that is packaged with one.

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                  I’m talking about operating systems. Not a pc that is packaged with one.

                  So yes, looks like I correctly understood what you are trying to say, and agree with you that buying a standalone operating system is weird. But nobody does that.

                  Looks like you consider buying something in a bundle to not be buying it, which is a valid opinion, though myself I disagree. Most OS purchases happen in a bundle with a PC, and every time I bought a laptop I asked for Windows to be removed from the bundle, which made it cheaper a bit (as I was going to install Linux anyway). If removing Windows from the bundle is making it cheaper, then clearly you were buying it and paying for it for when you don’t, as most people do.

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      So many people I know complain about windows having ads, that it’s auto installing bloatware, has annoying checks, forces you to login…

      I paid the full price about a decade ago and haven’t been bothered by any of that. And yes, I’ve upgraded to windows 11

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        I’ve had the exact same experience. People on this site don’t like when others don’t hate Windows.

        I like it because it just works.

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          It definitely “just works” alright. And damn do I appreciate that on the machine I like to use to relax

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        Tap water is so cheap it might as well be free, and it’s probably included in the rent in a lot of places.

        I guess it’s not free in places that need to have a revolution first?

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          My water is inexpensive: 1 Cubometer of water about USD 0.29 and USD 0.13 to deliver it to the apartment (pipe system, water infrastructure).

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          Slightly more expensive in places with local water scarcity, like the American southwest. But yeah, we still need a revolution

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        Where I am the cost of water is rolled into the local authority tax. It’s not metered, so it feels free. It’s pretty good water too.

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      Yeah ok.

      In my 20’s I over-enjoyed a great many things.

      Now in my 40’s I don’t drink booze, do drugs, smoke cigarettes, and also try to avoid sugar and caffeine. I also have kids now so I sold my motorbikes because that seemed irresponsible.

      So yeah, I do purchase poncy imported italian sparkling mineral water because… it’s a nice indulgence.

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      As somebody who grew up with perfect tap water and then moved to Detroit, I used to think this.

      Edit: I guess I should say I still think this for a lot of places. When I go to my parents house the first thing I do is drink a big cup of their amazing tap water.

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        Hear hear. When I rented the water was great, didn’t use a filter. Out where my parents live, their water is brown occasionally.

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    (Conditionally) journals, studies and some books. And, for that matter, most television, film and music.

    Particularly when paying is not supporting the creator, only the publisher.

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    • Books
    • Porn
    • Streaming Services
    • Bottled Water (if you have access/the means of purchasing a filter)
    • “Buy now, play later.” Just buy it later and avoid the fees.
    • A lot of “Courses.” There are so many free resources online.
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      Yes, porn is free, but the companies that host it are utter garbage. They pay next to nothing, claim ownership of the content, and don’t care if a person is being exploited. Finding a person that you think is awesome/sexy and supporting their content means custom tailored and personal fun-times; that the adult content creator is the one who gets paid; and that it’s unlikely they’re being forced/pimped/trafficked.

      Free porn is perfectly cromulent and there’s a lot of variety; but if you can afford it, supporting a person is better overall. I used to create erotic cosplay photography for a living, so I’m all too familiar with how screwed up things are for sex workers.

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    Streaming services. I’ve been balls deep into piracy since I was a kid but I remember once I was house sitting and my friend had netflix and I Was drunk and wanted to watch He-man. I turned on their netflix and it didn’t have it. I was like, why even pay for this shit whats it good for? I have been morally opposed to paying for streaming ever since. Ive been taking some classes recently and some of the Gen Z kids are like, baffled I don’t have spotify. I am baffled they can’t pirate songs. My friends, you dont have to pay for that single. I can download it during the span of this conversation with my phone.

    Also on that note, any of WotC’s D&D tools. I remember the D&Dinsider debacle. 4e was a cool game but basically unplayable without some automation. They tried downloadable software but found people had way too easy a time hacking it. So they launched a constantly crashing version behind a paywall that ran on silverlight (so it couldn’t run on Mac. As a webapp.) And hackers still kept up the downloadable character builder with updates. It was more consistent, didn’t crash, and is still functional to this day. I ban D&Dbeyond from my games. I encourage everyone to use 5e.tools (if they must play 5e).

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      For dnd, so you have a character creator that is as easy as dnd beyond? I’ve looked at some open source versions, but nothing come as close for ease of use. Thanks!

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      I default to piracy too, but I’m guessing you don’t listen to a lot of new music. The thing a music service offers isn’t just access, it’s discoverability. It didn’t replace my FLAC collection, it expanded it. What it replaced was listening to the radio to find new stuff.

      For video I’m more with you. I’m happy to rely on word of mouth. Especially since the streaming services drop movies all the time and discriminate against watching in a browser. Getting a good rip means you can watch it anywhere, anytime, and not have to worry about it disappearing.

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        While this might have been true for a while, but payola is alive and well. My spouse has Spotify and still has to listen to music podcasts for real discovery. Otherwise she’s one more person swatting down Espresso playing over and over.

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    I do not get people who still pay for cable tv. My dad pays like 120 dollars a month for it and the programming is horrible, the ads are insane, all the best sports shit is on streaming services now, I do not understand it at all.

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      How technical is your dad?

      Also honestly. Sometimes it’s a lot nicer to just push a button and have something come on.

      One of the main reasons I use Plex is their random feature. “Wanna watch a syndicated episodic show and don’t care which ep? Press random” vs other streaming services you have to actually choose an episode.

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          That’s why. My folks still have cable and pay for HBO. That’s how me and my siblings are able to watch stuff we don’t want to download on max :)

          My dad jokes that hes happy he knows how to turn on his phone … Now his TV since that’s “too complicated”

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          So… Iirc you can shuffle all of the episodes in a library … Not sure about cross library. I just have one for TV and one for movies.

          I know you can definitely make a smart playlist for the shows you want to shuffle through and go from there. Like I have a bunch of a few episodic tv shows, added them through regex to a smart playlist and hit shuffle all the time.

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      Inertia?
      Or is there some local channel that they like that doesn’t have a youtube presence?

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      WinRAR is legitimately a great program and whomever made it deserves some compensation

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        Maybe it was good 10-20 years ago. What’s it got to offer today? Why should we use a proprietary format when there are faster and more space-efficient open formats widely available today?

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          I compare features, speed and compression ratio’s of a bunch of options about twice a year. Up until now, winrar kept coming out on top, at least for my dataset

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            I agree that winrar is better (or at least historically better since I don’t routinely test like you do).

            However the need to compress files is different than it has been. Storage space is always getting bigger and cheaper so I don’t need to store anything compressed.

            Compression is best for sharing files, which that has evolved greatly since the creation of rar files. And recently windows has added native 7z support so it’s become the convenient choice.

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              winrar, (almost) all options available in peazip, I explore the options available in the then latest tar and zip commands under debian, and I look around to try some novelty stuff or if there’s anything experimental.

              I go one by one, setting up scripts to compress a directory with a particular algorithm and compression configuration. (and to record timstamps, check integrity, etc). Then collect a reasonably representative set of files from my ssd’s.

              Writing those scripts takes a few hours, but after that I hit run, and usually just screen record to a seperate ssd. After (usually) about a little over a day I can look back and see how long things took, and also have a video of all of them. I scrub it just to make sure nothing glitched out.

              I have to say though, winrar’s lead had shrunk a lot in my last test. Despite the new rar5 thing. Perhaps the next time will be different.

              When is the next time? When I feel like it. After all, this is just a weird hobby I really enjoy.

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                  I’d have to dig down my pc files for details. But winrar and 7z we’re at the top of the stack, and lzma was a surprising 3rd place. Apparently some updates were made to the algorithm

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      I know this sub, and basically most of Lemmy, are pro Linux. But honestly? It’s not as good as Windows and macos for everyday folk. We are kidding ourselves.

      It CAN do anything they can, but it’s way too hard, and you might have to code your own drivers for some of it.

      You pay for it to just work, and that’s why I 100% get why you pay for an OS.

      Note: I don’t think anyone feel like they even pay for their OS, if it’s not enterprise. It’s preinstalled, nobody thinks further than that.

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        I think the opposite. It works well for every day folks, but those of us with extra hardware, gaming peripherals, macros, etc have a real struggle getting it all to work, easily, out of the box, on the first try.

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        Over 3 different computers, I have never not had some bug on windows after a clean install.

        Stuff like, text inputs not working on sticky notes, screenshots not working, now I’m having driver issues where some windows flicker black rapidly. I need to do another fresh install to fix it.

        I can’t even think of a single bug I’ve had using Linux. If it were not for a single piece of software not working on Linux by any means, I’d be using that.

        The only games I’ve not had work on Linux straight away are games with anti-cheat, so I understand windows gamers using windows to play them, but otherwise Linux gaming has been basically flawless.

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        Yup. I work with both and I greatly prefer working with linux now but I get paid to stare at it, dig into config files, understand file systems, etc. The average consumer does not want to do this and doesn’t give a shit about internals, they just want to click install and work which windows is pretty good at. If you told them they needed to edit a config file and play with services your customer support lines would be jammed.

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        You wont win this one. If you think of the number of internet users in the world once you eliminate apple users, people who do everything on their phone or a tablet, people who use chromebooks but have no idea that its linux, people who “just buy a new one” whenever their laptop/desktop acts up and people who will never touch anything that isnt a prebuilt with a warranty you are left with an abysmally small number of people in the grand scheme. Thats the filters you have to apply before you get to people who might run Linux… and they are all on Lemmy.

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        In my experience, Linux Mint “just works”. What you’re describing are distros like arch.

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          I know gaming has gotten better, but I still run into trouble. It “just works” on Windows.

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            i don’t think it “just works” on windows, but people (even regular people) are used to the workarounds that you have to do to get windows to work as they want

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            Their activation doesn’t “just work.” I paid Microsoft for a license. And I have spent hours with their support.

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        This is the main reason I still keep Windows around. The majority of my stuff “just works” much better on Linux, but every once in a while, you need to interact with someone else via some weird proprietary software and it’s not really reasonable to go “sorry, can’t do it because Linux”, nor is it reasonable to spend several hours figuring out for Linux when I’m likely only using it once.

        Windows is completely free though. I don’t even bother to remove the watermark.

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        Generally I agree, but

        you might have to code your own drivers for some of it

        is a bit hyperbolic. Most of the time, most users will be using pretty standard hardware to do pretty standard things. They won’t need fancy drivers to do it.

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        Depends. My mother’s computer didn’t have the hardware necessary to drive Win11, so I explained the options, and she said she’d try Linux.

        She’s on Fedora Workstation on both her Desktop and Laptop now, both relatively standard HP Computers (the Desktop being very, very old, however).

        She can connect to her work server via Citrix and access the software she needs. She can take work calls via MicroSIP. She can edit documents locally with onlyoffice. She can do whatever else she needs in the browser. None of this needed any non-standard drivers or packages, except for MicroSIP, for which Wine needed to be installed, though it worked without any special configuration.

        So it can work perfectly well. Depending on the use case.

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      Small bits of code can be made and maintained as a hobby or a passion project, but larger things begin to require money. Although a lot of FOSS is maintained by volunteers, money still has its role in the equation.

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        Most big FOSS projects are done by developers who get paid for that.
        They work at Red Hat, Canonical, SUSE, Google or Microsoft and write FOSS while on the clock.

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    I was surprised to hear that a coworker suscribes to one of the streaming services to stream shows from PBS. First of all, it’s free OTA. Second, I think they have an app.

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      The app is paid. It’s absurd to me that one would need to pay for a pbs subscription since the you’re paying for the original funding in the first place.