Dafuq is this unelected dipshit doing at the podium to begin with? That should be the first question to ask.
I mean we all know why but I refuse to pretend this should be the “new normal”
Unelected? What do you mean? He bought his top spot of a kleptocracy fair and square.
Not odd at all. Very specific in fact.
Odd looking is a kind way of looking at it.
As social media exploded with condemnation of what some were calling a “Sieg Heil,” with some others applauding the world’s richest man’s gesture, there was also some speculation that Musk’s movement was more like that of an Imperial Roman general in the Gladiator mode.
Do people think the Nazis invented their salute? They took it from the Romans. To say it was actually a Roman salute is to also say it was a Nazi salute because they are basically one and the same.
They didn’t, the association with Rome comes from this painting. The author didn’t have anything to believe it was historically correct.
It is correct though that Italian fascists had a hard on on everything that was classical Rome-adjacent and they picked the salute from a French painting like a bunch of noobs.
The Roman salute, also known as the Fascist salute
God I love Wikipedia
All the more reasons to donate, imo. Based af.
Are we donating? I used to donate; but I read somewhere that they actually have more money than they know what to do with… I would donate if this claim were plausibly denied.
I don’t see the issue with donating more money than they can use. Their contribution to society is immeasurable and the more Wikipedia the better as far as I’m concerned! :D
I haven’t heard anyone say they’re drowning in money, but it you have links I’d love to read them.
Interesting, so instead of them stealing the actual Roman salute, they stole what they thought the Roman salute was. Sure the Italian fascists used it too, but the Nazis compared what they wanted, a 1000 year Reich, to what Rome had created when they had a massive empire that lasted 500 years for the western empire and almost 1500 for the Eastern years if they include the West and almost 1000 by itself. So they didnt just take it from the Italian Fascists just cause, they did it because they thought it was Roman as well, and associated it with their desire to replicate the Romans.
Thanks for the info!
Edited the years for the Roman empire after being called out for being wrong.
So the nazi salute is the equivalent to the naruto run of their time.
Ackshually it’s only 2000 years in the east (up until 1453) if you count the kingdom and republic (which would make it 1000 years in the west, up to the traditional date of 476) assuming the traditional ab urbe condita date of 753 BC.
I said almost 2000 years. It lasted from, officially, 476 BCE to 1453 CE, that’s 1929 years. Which is almost 2000 years, like I said.
When it comes to the West, the empire officially was made in 27 BCE with the first Emperor. I don’t think the republic really counted because all historical articles I can find say it lasted 503 years, not 1000. From 27 BCE to 476 CE.
Also, 753 BCE isn’t the Roman empire. It was the founding of Rome itself, meaning the city.
I’m just saying it only lasted 2000 years if you could the republic, in which case it lasted 1000 years in the west (traditionally until Augustulus was deposed in 476) not 500 years. I realize this has nothing to do with the topic at hand and I’m just being a pedant.
Ah I misread a bit of what you said. Thanks for the clarification.
Edit: Fixed the dates in the original post
No worries, I didn’t explain myself very well. If you’re in the US, take care today.
There’s sone subtle differences but fascism is modeled after the Roman Republic with intense nationalism thrown in. The salute the Romans did was the fascist salute.
“This is a man with Aspergers exuberantly throwing his heart to the crowd,” the journalist said, calling Musk “a friend to the Jews.”
Also, Asperger’s is no longer a medical term and there is no indication that Elon has ever actually been evaluated. Autism is not an excuse to throw a Nazi salute, for fuck’s sake!
Someone should tell Musk what the Nazis did with “Aspergers” kids.
Seriously… The fucking irony
as a matter of fact, Hans Asperger’s work during the national socialist years in Vienna can actually be described as dialectic. a rough summary would be that while participating in the evaluation and killing of children he developed his dissertation in order to get some of the kids out of the T4 program. that dissertation later became the base for the diagnosis that was named after him and found its way into popular culture.
Thank you.
with that guy’s history of making sock puppet accounts, this eric one is highly sus.
Autist here, while I can be awkward and accidentally do or say offensive things not meaning them…
A full on fucking Hitler salute isn’t even something we can do on accident.
Closest I’ve gotten was while getting excited in public shouting “WHITE POWER!”
Context: I was playing a Power Rangers game on my phone, and got Tommy Oliver’s White Ranger, my voice went out before I could say “Ranger”… I am very bad at controlling the volume of my voice. Seriously, sometimes I’ll say something and it sounds like I’m whispering, but I"m yelling and vice versa. I have no idea what’s up with that, people often have to tell me if I’m yelling or not.
A full on fucking Hitler salute isn’t even something we can do on accident.
Maybe Dr. Strangelove was autistic?
Did you turn around and say the same thing to the people behind you? The first one I could maybe say he did a fucked up dab. When he did it again…. I’m speechless.
No I do not believe that I did.
Eyup, Musk is a Nazi
All the fucker needed to do was raise or move the wrist shortly after the “bluff”. He kept the whole arm straight, he knows he doesn’t need to hide anymore.
Maybe stick with the Green Ranger going forward.
For lack of a better term I find it “interesting” that they’re using the outdated term named for a Nazi collaborator
It’s not an accident either. It’s a dog whistle.
please y’all read the studies about Hans Asperger. in short: nothing happened for the amusement of Americans some 80 years later.
On Twitter, no less — a sycophant whose opinion is a net negative.
I actually did speculate on neurodiversity yesterday (as a neurodiverse person myself) and I can tell you it was because of shock over the whole thing. I’m not going to speculate.
edit: fixed some spelling
A sign of weakness.
Yeah. So weird, this Nazi salute. From the actual President of a fascist admin. Odd. Odd looking, even.
So who wants to take bets on how long it’ll take Musk to say the N-Word?
And justify it because he’s African American.
I think he was practicing it in the mirror, too. There is no way that this is a coincidence or a mistake.
You could tell he’s been waiting for the opportunity to do that for ages. He almost did it early and when it came time, he did it as hard as he could.
Yeah, claims are already going around that this is just must being clumsy
You don’t clumsily accidentally make a Hitler salute, especially after cosying up with far right politicians that love what Hitler did.
There must be consequences for this. Anyone who is not a neo nazi should stop doing anything with any of the products from musk. You work at Tesla? Congratulations, you work at a neo nazi factory, you might want to reconsider your career future. Same goes for those at SpaceX; do you really want to be that guy who, ten years from now, has on their record that they worked at the neonazi rockets company?
People should leave Twitter in droves now, and so should companies. They should all stop buying Tesla shit, sell their Tesla stock, and get with the normal folks.
Fuck musk, let there for once be real consequences that he’ll at least feel in his wallet.
I am legit worried about him so brazenly display his fascist tendencies. If this goes anywhere how it went 80 years ago, and I fear it may very well be, then at the end of it, let’s please make sure we get rid of the Nazi scour forever.
I grew up with “never again never forget” and within a decade that went to “well this is cool man!” Clearly we didn’t do enough to teach people and we’ve been way, WAY too lenient with those that love fascism
I was one of those who kept their twitter account because it was a good source for weather updates and breaking news. I wanted to leave but I justified it by not posting, and only interacting with my feed. Today I reached my breaking point when a comment chain on a non political post on my feed devolved into blue checkmarks saying why the platform owner was allowed to do a Hitler salute. I realized that the weather and niche news I got from the platform was VASTLY devalued by the sheer amount of racist and hateful commentary on everything. Yeah, I’m not being part of any of that, this man is a danger, and anyone who still follows or defends him is dead to me.
We’re at the “normalizing fascism” stage.
Historically there’s no way out of this. We’re going to have to push through a very sad, very deadly phase in American history and see what happens on the other side.
Buy a gun.
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Just saw a video of it, that’s not just Nazi like, that is a textbook ENTHUSIASTIC NAZI SALUTE!
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Thanks for excellent documentation! 👍 Showing that just as I claimed, it’s textbook enthusiastic heiling, There is no explaining this away. USA has become a Nazi country!!
I mean, not textbook. It was sloppy and uncoordinated. Dipshits can’t even fascism without looking awkward.
It’s deliberate for plausible deniability, but it’s so obvious.
Maybe but I also think he’s an uncoordinated dip shit
It kind of reminded me of someone doing a dab.
That was the ketamine fucking with his coordination…
Well… a certain mustache guy was also know to be a rather sloppy saluter.
That, and I can’t believe the ADL, of all people, was equivocating on it.
Oh, wait, I can, because the ADL has long since stopped giving a shit about antisemitism and has instead started accusing anyone who protests against a genocide of being Nazis.
Twice.
This is the clincher for me. I could MAYBE give him the benefit of the doubt for being basically an excitable toddler who waves his arms around like a dickhead, but the fact he did the exact same salute, TWICE, shows he blatantly meant to do it. I think he meant to look a lot cooler than it did, and not like Butt-head.
You’re a better person than I, then. I can’t give him any benefit. Not for a long time now.
