Summary
Efforts to impeach Donald Trump for a third time are intensifying as he begins his second term.
The non-partisan group Free Speech For People launched the “Impeach Trump. Again” campaign, citing constitutional violations, including his alleged role in the January 6 Capitol riots and breaches of the emoluments clause.
The group also accuses Trump of campaign finance violations, xenophobic rhetoric, and abuse of power.
However, impeachment remains unlikely with Republicans controlling Congress. Democrats may revisit impeachment if they regain control in 2026.
FFS no. All it did the last two times was help him, because impeachment is basically impossible and he’s going to “win”.
No GOP backing, so this is meaningless theater.
Exactly. He’s been impeached twice and nothing happened. He should have been barred from office years ago. The entire process is nothing but political theatre for donors.
How many times did the magahats offer impeachment articles for Biden? The theater isn’t meant to be successful, but just a constant buzz for voters.
“Surely, this time, impeachment will have consequences!”
Even if it passes, he will never be removed from office. There is no low that Trump can sink to where Republicans will not fall in lockstep with him. It’s pointless.
It gives Democrats something to campaign and fundraise on. Now you can FIGHT BACK by donating $25 to the Impeach Trump in 2025 Campaign.
Jesus Christ… NO.
Same as the last two times, it’s a wasted effort without the votes in the Senate. If you can’t remove him, don’t bother. Focus on winning back the House and Senate in 2026.
This is actually counterproductive, the more times we do it when it’s guaranteed to lose, the less likely it is to work.
The GOP had the votes to impeach biden. They didn’t because even they know it’s a stinker.
That’s the idea. Impeach him after 26. It’s in the article
Ah, but this is the least effective way for Democrats to show their donors that they’re still “fighting” for them. The only thing that matters now is manufacturing some talking point to get more donations in 2026.
Time and time again, this image remains relevant
Though I’d argue the Ds can govern
They do ok. But look at what’s going on with gaza. They definitely arent batting 100. Plus all the governing they sometimes do must equally benefit the wealthy class or it won’t happen.
Sure, but on the second point the GOP is so horrendous
They could not BE more wrong.
They could have prevented this from happening and chose to use the fear of fascism as a campaign tactic instead of putting in any protections. I’d say that’s a pretty big failure to govern.
One of the things I hate about yes minister is how it still applies 40 years later. Like f%@$!
Ya I always laugh when people talk about how accurately the Simpsons predicts things. It’s like, no, politics is just that fucking cyclical and the writers were smart.
I say were because it’s not what it used to be.
Amen Kent.
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I’m certainly glad the ACA helped you, and it certainly did address some major issues, but it was also massive wealth transfer to the top, and it had led directly into the financialization of healthcare that’s currently destroying the system. Doctors are leaving medicine in droves and regularly takes six months or more to get an appointment with many specialties.
And this wouldn’t have happened with private insurance without ACA because…?
It probably would have happened, but the ACA was like throwing gas on a fire or chumming for sharks. The individual mandate concept was specifically designed to derail actual reforms and accelerate wealth aggregation, and that’s exactly what it did.
Do you think the Heritage Foundation was actually concerned about access to quality healthcare for everyone? We still spend even more person on healthcare than anywhere else on the planet, yet we still have 26 million Americans with no healthcare plan.
It was a bandaid on a festering wound of already financialized Healthcare, it’s just continued to get worse as expected because the ACA was a half ass attempt at actually brining Healthcare to the people.
There was no large scale takeover of healthcare by Wall Street. There is a big difference between commercialization and financialization. By pumping billions into health are and allowing investors to siphon those billions right back out again, the ACA created a feeding frenzy. I’m old enough to remember a healthcare system that was largely owned and managed by medical professionals, not hedge funds and private equity.
Then, of course, there are the larger impacts of income inequality that this exacerbated. The ACA was one of many things done by both Republicans and Democrats that turned this country into a Russian style oligarchy.
It’s not incidental that the design for the ACA came from the same right wing think tank that produced project 2025. It’s all part of the same project.
It’s not incidental that the design for the ACA came from the same right wing think tank that produced project 2025. It’s all part of the same project.
Actually, no. The design for the ACA was actually based on the healthcare reforms put in place by Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts, which were considered very popular and successful. The problem is that when they tried to make it go national, Republicans in general didn’t want to give Obama a win, so they gutted it as much as possible.
Romneycare was pretty god damned good, even after the gutting it’s taken over the years. If the ACA was built on what Romneycare originally was, we’d probably be in much better shape than we’re in now.
You sure about that?. What do you think Romneycare was based on? Romneycare had many of the same issues. It really doesn’t help the case that Obamacare’s implementation was worse.
ACA eas what the Republicans were pushing for 20 years ago. Obamacare was straight up a copy of Mitt Romney’s healthcare plan in Massachusetts, jjst at the federal level.
Did you know that when aragorn kicked the helmet, he broke his toe, and the yelling in the movie was actually his cries of pain they kept to enhance the scene?
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They absolutely can do good things, I was mostly referring to the fact that they knew that what is happening would happen and yet put in zero protections to protect Americans from literal fascism, instead they used fear mongering as a campaign tactic.
used into fear monger
I hate it when people use into fear monger .
Fok >.< fixed. Thanks!
I mean that’s precisely why there was never a serious effort to codify Roe. It was too useful as a campaign line. And then it wasn’t.
Which congress would have voted for it?
Exactly this. When did they have the ability to codify Roe?
Impeachment is the check against his power. It would be better to convict, but the democrats need to make the argument and convince the people that Trump should be held accountable. Get Republicans in the Senate and House on record supporting Trump’s crimes, and then beat them in the midterm elections.
Impeachment is how you win those elections. Rolling over and showing your belly is why Democrats keep losing before the fight begins.
In this moment impeachment is a waste of time. They would be better served (1) governing super well in places they are in charge (to demonstrate they are the better option - something that is inconsistent today); (2) figuring out why people are voting for Trump; (3) developing strong messaging and strategy to win races top to bottom of the ballot. I’ve been unimpressed with their ability to both run and govern recently (with some exceptions here and there). Maybe it is catching up with them.
In this moment impeachment is a waste of time.
Any time he’s focusing on that is time he’s not actively fucking shit up. Being obstructionist is what’s gotten the Republicans to the place they are now.
And he doesn’t get convicted and he’ll campaign on how nasty the Dems are. An impeachment without conviction is a “win”.
And that’s a stupid ass argument. If the Democrats can’t win that debate, then we need better candidates.
winning what? debates? you mean reasoning with a pigeon?
Are you new? You win by convincing people that you’re right and they should vote for you. You can’t do that if you never make the argument because it’s too hard to win.
the democrats need to make the argument and convince the people that Trump should be held accountable
The people don’t vote on impeachment. Convincing them won’t help.
Get Republicans in the Senate and House on record supporting Trump’s crimes, and then beat them in the midterm elections.
Oh you sweet summer child.
I think impeachment makes him stronger, it gives him whining, hysterical liberals to point at. Oppose and resist him, but just by calling out his BS, not trying to give him a traffic ticket and failing.
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I mean, in a better world, we would have competent progressives who know how to run on an anti-fascist campaign. That we’re losing the fight is not a reason to stop fighting. It’s a reason to reevaluate our tactics and fight harder.
There are competent progressives who know how to run on an anti-fascist campaign. The Democratic Party stands in their way.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, because I know they exist, but they could be running the party.
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Impeachment is irrelevant anymore
It’s a process. It is like filing charges against someone, and then the Senate holds the trial. The Senate found him not guilty. So there were no consequences.
What the fuck is impeachment anymore?
Growing up and learning Nixon resigned because he was impeached and made him look terrible I thought it was career ending. Like they’ll drag you out of the white house career ending.
Now it just feels like telling a toddler “NO!” but with no consequence when they keep going anyway.
Nothing news from an empty source.
Kick that fat stupid bastard out on his diapered ass fast as you can
Impeachment is pointless when the republican traitor filth control more than 1/3 of the senate. Suggest other solutions to dealing with trump.
Only way it happens is if he does something so egregious a few GOP senators publicly state it’s time for him to go. These crimes so far are what these senators prolly get away with behind closed doors anyway so they ain’t gonna do shit.
He could rape their grandchildren live on CSPAN and they’d line up to lick his asshole and thank him for the honor.
They threatened him last time when he refused to sign tariffs on Russia, but things haven’t exactly improved as far as character of the senate GOP since.
It really comes down to if today is the day, as has never been, when 13 GOP break ranks with their party.
Imagine trying to win over the electorate instead. That’d be crazy.
Why would they bother? Nothing happened last time they did, except for wasting everyone’s time.
Apathy and hopelessness leads to the worst outcomes.
I can’t speak for the Lemmite up thread, but it isn’t necessarily apathy. Trump & co successfully characterized these as partisan attacks.
Unless they can actually achieve something (like rolling back illegal legislation/policies), they’re useless.
Time and effort would be better spent convincing the electorate that the Dems are worth electing.
Wasting time is the point. Presumably if you can waste four years most of the damage will have been avoided.
“If at first you don’t succeed, just fucking give up.”
More like the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
That’s the definition of practice.
Ah yes i remember these exact news at this time during his first term
Impeachment stops corrupt individuals, not an entire party of fascists
Lol as proved last time, impeachment means absolutely nothing. It didn’t stop the last corrupt individual, in fact he was just reelected and is as corrupt, if not more, than before.
Yeah, unless the Senate finds him guilty, which they didn’t last time and won’t likely this time, if won’t stop him.
It’s certainly doomed, but democrats already get paid to be there so why not use every tool in the book? Time Congress is arguing about impeachment is time they’re not implementing fascist policies
Exactly. The corrupt individual couldn’t be stopped because theres an entire corrupted party that supports the corrupt individual.
the american democracy would be pretty good, if it wasn’t for parties… now it’s a never ending competition between two conspiracies
And it’s not like we didn’t fuckin’ see it coming, either. Washington, with one foot out the door: “Don’t deify me, don’t form political parties.”
So, guess what else nobody listed to him about?
Lol its not the “parties”
The constitution never said anything about the two-party system.
That was an emergent property of FPTP voting system
TLDR: Fuck the FPTP system
Impeachment has been of no consequence for more than half a century. Yet another demonstration that the US constitution is fucking idiotic.
It has a purpose but obviously it’s been misused in the last how ever many years. Now they kind of use it as a litmus test to see how much the media cares at any particular time.
Good. They should get rid of him by any means necessary.
