one X user claimed the website was “anti-free speech” after he said he was banned from the “comics” subreddit for denying that the tech mogul did a Nazi salute
That sounds like pro truth rather than “anti free speech”, no?
Free speech means having to read and hear things you don’t like or disagree with every now and again. I personally think bans should be restricted to hate speech or else we’ll sleep walk in to an echo chamber.
Freedom of speech is not a freedom to lie.
Damn, now you got me defending fucking Musk on this issue.
Freedom of speech is also the freedom to lie. However, that just means the state can’t arrest you for your speech. Nobody owes you a platform for your free speech.
That said, Elon Musk is a turd sandwich.
Freedom of speech is also the freedom to lie
Again, it is not. Freedom of speech is a freedom to receive information and exchange ideas. Not a freedom to lie.
Are you a USian by any chance? They quite often misunderstand what freedom of speech is.
Yes, but in this case we are not talking about a lie, we are talking about an opinion which you yourself consider a lie.
It comes back to objective truth Vs opinion which I have already replied to you about.
Again, it is.
Show me the legalisation where it is illegal to lie. How is it enforced? Who enforces it? Who arbatrates it?
Freedom of speech is a moral right, and nothing more. If you start arresting people on perceived lies, that is a very dangerous slippery slope. I hope that the Donald doesn’t start arresting people who he believes is lying. Where will THAT stop?
And, no, I’m not Asian, tho I don’t understand your asking.
That’s true and I appreciate that different opinions are often unwelcome, I’d still rather that than end up in an extremely boring echo chamber where the “conversation” is not much more than a circle jerk.
Well if this person truly believes it wasn’t a Nazi salute, then he’s not lying.
I believe ghosts aren’t real, but that doesn’t mean I think anyone that has seen a ghost is lying, I truly believe that they think they saw a ghost.
There’s a huge difference between an objective truth and a widely agreed upon opinion.
Well if this person truly believes it wasn’t a Nazi salute, then he’s not lying
Agreed, that makes him deluded instead. Not many people however are stupid enough to be able to analyse Musk salute and belive it wasn’t a nazi one.
I’m not getting in to the Musk debate, I’m quite frankly bored of it, just let me know if he does it again.
I’m only here to defend freedom of speech.
I’m just here to defend freedom of speech.
Ensure you understand it first:
‘Freedom of speech is the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, by any means.’
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/free-speech-freedom-expression-human-right
Thus my point that freedom of speech is not a freedom to lie or a freedom to spread hate or encourage violence (this is a general point, I am not referring to your views in particular).
Honestly, that’s very insulting and I don’t appreciate the insinuation. I know very well what the freedom of speech entails and I donate monthly to amnesty international.
With how active r/fednews has been, no surprise
Reddit’s about to get shittier. Again. Either they’ll kowtow to Musk and make it against the rules to ban X links or they’ll give some bland, noncommital, centrist statement about how they respect the hard work their mods put in to keep Reddit going or whatever. I really doubt they’ll make any unequivocal statement condemning Musk as the neo-Nazi shitbag he is.
The second reddit pulls some pro-Elon conservative bullshit, expect Lemmy to be FLOODED.
Reddit is a liberal haven and there will be a mass exodus if they toe the President Musk line.
If the API price-gouging scandal didn’t bring them all over already, then you might be surprised just how many continue to hang on there, even after this one. And the next one. And the next.
It’s just how people are. We don’t want to change.
It will bring some people over. But I doubt there will be a flood.
I hope he doesn’t. Most reddit users should just stay on reddit
Alternatively, nobody should stay on Reddit.
Why? I certainly would like to see more users here.
Honestly, I dont mind them making fedi instances. We have extremist instances barely anyone federates with, why not have the normies and liberalists have their own? They will probably go to threads anyway which we also defederated. I feel like every person (including musk, the orange and what other hitler wannabe comes next) should be on the fedi and be able to get fucking defederated by everyone. I feel like if that happened, we could finally move on from stateism to something more horizontal/federated but thats just a junior anarchists wet dream I guess.
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU NAZI FUCK
Well said, if a little too understated even. In germany, some mention the nuremberg trials and nazis immediately shit their pants. Give it a read if you like.
wonder where the next trials will be held
Charlotte
“Reddit continues to be anti-free speech,” Cedric Hohnstadt said on X. “I just got a lifetime ban from the ‘comics’ subreddit. Yesterday, I posted a humor comic that got over 5,400 upvotes. Then I noticed that there was a pinned post from the moderators saying that comics linked from X could no longer be shared because Musk gave a Nazi salute. I commented saying no he didn’t. The moderator accused me of being pro-Nazi, banned me permanently for life, and deleted all my past posts from the ‘comics’ subreddit. But somehow Elon Musk is the totalitarian?” The post has been viewed 3.7 million times.
Amazing that a blind man can draw comics.
Truly inspiring
You can do anything. Except criticising musk. Thats too far.
The post has been viewed 3.7 million times.
Assuming this is the info box in new Reddit, those stats always felt… wrong
The difference between comments/votes and supposed “views” made it seem like the later was inflated.
Even more obvious was when something got posted at odd hours of the night in a local community. The view count would take off shortly after, while the comments and votes would only show up around when people wake up.
Could be partly explained by the language (and or cultural) barrier of the people from other parts of the world who view the post at night - when it’s daytime in their country.
Also, bots would likely inflate that number pretty drastically.
By local community I meant one that’s specific to a small local area (ex. School, municipality). It’s possible that people from other parts of the world are seeing the post in the All type feeds, but I found it odd that only views went up while comments and votes didn’t until morning.
It makes sense for the cause to be bots, but that makes the number deceptive since it’s implying that your post reached a certain number of human viewers. It should be possible to adjust that number based on their estimates of humans vs. bots
Great timing for me to have deleted my account haha
Me too
Same as me, lol
