Summary
Tesla’s European sales are plummeting, with Germany seeing a 60% drop despite strong EV growth. Similar declines hit Norway, Sweden, and France.
While some blame the Osborne effect—buyers delaying purchases for a refreshed Model Y—Musk’s endorsement of Germany’s far-right AfD may also be repelling customers.
Online backlash has linked Tesla to fascist imagery. In contrast, UK sales fell only 7.8%, suggesting political factors play a role.
With strong domestic EV competition in Europe, Tesla’s reputation crisis could further hurt demand.
Fuck around and find out is his new M.O.
when is international break a Tesla window day?
Destroying peoples property is not the answer. Declining sales figures is.
These are working class people you are talking about. Please keep the focus on millionaires and billionaires.
It’s everyday my pal
And make Tesla more money by selling replacement windows? Nah. If you need to let out your anger on random people’s cars, buy some “Fuck Elon” stickers and stick those on the back.
I would also not under estimate that in comparison to let’s say 5 years ago. Now every car maker and their dog has a decent E-car (and sometimes a lot of different ones) so Tesla hasn’t a monopoly anymore
If I ever see a fucking Cybertruck here, I’m moving to Antarctica.
Swatzicar!!!
Not sure if it’s just the promotion of the far-right parties.
For me at the latest after his “Heil Hitler” salute I’d be completely ashamed driving that car.
Might be interesting to see the exact daily timeline of the sales, if it collapsed after the 20th january.
It is fascinating how little this correlates to the Tesla stock price. It has dropped a bit, down 8.4% in the last month, but it still up 80.8% over the last 6 months. I´m curious what kind of business model the shareholders is expecting from Tesla that does not involve selling cars.
My understanding ia that they get carbon credits for producing EVs which they then sell to carbon producers to offset. They also produce batteries.
That being said, its not going to take a deep dive unless they have consecutive missed eps targets. Even then though, part of Elons MO is to promose some visonary tech that takes year to peoduce so just sitbtight man becauae im telling you its coming…
This time around its robots for the home. Laughable not because we dont have the technology, but who has the disposable income to afford it? Even if they come out, and it turns out people buy them (which also means not heing turned off by musk); where is the moat? What stops a competitor like boston dynamics, samsung, etc from seeing it as validation of a market and then entering it?
Even if Musk wasn’t a Nazi, he’s still a big enough douchebag that I wouldn’t want to buy a car associated with him. And even if he wasn’t a douchebag, the Cybertruck has demonstrated what kind of stupid shit Tesla does when they take orders from him. And even without Musk’s influence, I still wouldn’t buy a Tesla because there are so many other options on the market, and people have gotten very vocal about things like the build quality of Tesla cars.
That’s gotta start hurting their stock price at some point.
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent…or sth like that.
“In the short term, the market is a voting machine, but in the long term, it is a weighing machine” - Benjamin Graham (“father” of value investing and mentor to Warren Buffett)
Meaning that in the short term, stock prices can be swayed from a company’s true value by investors’ emotions and opinions.
But eventually the stock price will align with the company’s actual profitability and growth potential.
And you’re right that these are crazy times, and the “short term” irrationality can last a lot longer than past experiences.
Historically, we’ve used examples like the 17th century tulip mania, or the dot com boom, but it won’t surprise me if Tesla becomes the poster child for this quote in the future.
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The share price isn’t based on car sales. If it were just about car sales, it would be about 10% of the price it is now.
The share price is mostly ridiculous, but it is also people trying to get in early, on the assumption that they solve FSD, battery storage, Optimus (their robot), and battery manufacturing.
If they solve all of this, then Tesla could 10x again. It’s very future dependent, and I think that future is a lot longer away than a lot of other shareholders think.
I got in at ~$20 per share. I’ve significantly reduced my position over the last few months, but I do still believe in the original mission of Tesla. I just don’t think they’re going to get there with Elon.
IMHO only FSD is something they could potentially achieve, but it took them so long the competition is catching up. At least in Europe (where Teslas have barely functioning traffic sign recognition) other manufacturers have level 3 ADAS in production. Like legally certified and everything.
Their batteries ( both mobile and grid storage) are nothing special, the 4680 is MiA, catl and BYD have bigger market shares already, I don’t know about Panasonic and other manufacturers, could be too.
And the robot is vaporware unless proven otherwise.
I’m not a gambler so I won’t short it (Elon can give himself trillions in government assistance now), but sure as hell wouldn’t hold it anymore.
Their batteries may not be special, but if they can scale to what they were promising a few years ago (which is a much bigger “if” than it used to be), their battery business could easily surpass BYD’s, which could justify its current market cap on its own (but not much higher).
I’ve got mixed feelings on FSD. I think it’s nearly “solved” for places with nice climate, but I think there’s a lot of work needed to deal with inclement weather like snow and slush and even heavy rain. I don’t think any company has any idea how to solve that issue, so they’re just pushing it down the road until someone else solves it first.
How would they scale it? I don’t think they have the factories even if they figure out the process. Last time I looked they had 2 (or 3?) locations.
Their factories in Nevada, Texas, and China all have a lot of extra space and/or land for expansion. They’ve also been considering building more factories in Mexico, another one in Europe, and possibly SE Asia, though it’s unclear whether any of those are going to materialize - especially with the current downturn in sales.
But that’s only 3 factories that they do have, building new ones would take years, they have lost the first mover advantage if they ever have one.
In my opinion this shows how fucking unrelated the whole financial sector is to reality.
It should be shut down or unrelated to the real world.
Judging on the fact that it jumped up after election day, investors are expecting corporate nepotism to boost profits.
I imagine that the federal government will be buying Teslas by the shipload
The army will be replacing humvees with cybertrucks.
Tesla will announce a CyberTank to replace the M1
i’m only sort of joking
Edit: HA! fucking called it
weird. i guess some people just arent interested in driving Swasticars
Fashmobile
There’s no H in fascist.
There is when you abbreviate it to one syllable.
“Car” is too big a word, “Nazimobil” fits better
Mobil while spelt wrong for a synonym for car, is longer then the word car.
Mobil is german for Mobile, so it still fits imo (that’s a lazy excuse for my brain not red-flagging the word for being wrong as it is correct in a language I speak, therefore being legit)
Also, “too big a word” afaik means the symbolic, so that calling Teslas “cars” overvalues them. They are not cars, they are merely mobile. Nazimobiles.
Deploreans.
Hakencruisers
This one is clever, I love it.
Nazivaggen
SSyberwagen
I wish they stopped using that image of Musk. It makes all the different news items look the same.
It should be the only image ever shown of Musk from now on.
Nazi shit does shit head thing
/s?
They are.
I think it’s important to keep using this image of Musk. It’s the most direct way to remind people that this powerful man working to destroy every government department from within is an unelected Nazi.
Then put it inside of the article but not as the thumbnail.
You want to bury the image of Trump being a Nazi shithead? Why for would you ever wanna do that? Your above stated answer rings hollow because you can just RTFA.
That’s just a straw man argument.
I’m saying every news article now has the same thumbnail so half of the time I don’t even notice the new evil stuff he is doing. That’s BAD because it’s the opposite of what we should be doing. Which is to recognize all the bad stuff he’s doing. But now it’s all just “oh he’s saluting again”.
I even believe there is a small chance they are forcing this image down our throats to make us immune to it.
So again, stop using the same thumbnail all the time, add it somewhere in the article or or post it in the comments or wherever. Because that’s all absolutely amazing and I support that.
It’s like your phone would have the same icon for every app. At some point you don’t even notice the new ones.
I was about to say the opposite. I am delighted that they put the same picture of this Nazi every time there is an article about him or Tesla. Keep up the good work, and never forget that he’s a Nazi.
IIRC this fact also had to do with a German government subsidizing EVs that ended late last year, I could be wrong to. Any German that can help clear this up?
Iirc, the subsidy was ~7000€. When the subsidy ended, car prices dropped by roughly 5000€. Meaning, there was a gift for the manufacturers and nothing changed. Of course, you can’t brag about your 40k car anymore because it’s only 35k now. And other smaller effects like the ads are different now.
Can we send another tesla to space with the musk rat tied to it?
Strap him to the heatsheild on the next starship flight.
I always like to point out that Mr. “We Must Colonize Mars” is too chickenshit to get on one of his own rockets. Even motherfucking Bezos had enough balls to do that.
Not even just him, but a whole group of other rich people and celebrities.
OceanGate happened too soon and with wrong people.
still too close. send the sob on a Voyager parts replacement mission.
nevermind. thats probably one more step on the path to v’ger.
Hopefully, the Tesla nose dive spreads to his other businesses.
Two of my coworkers were the biggest Elon fanboys and were the first in the office to drive Teslas. That was years ago though. I hear a lot less from them now. I wonder why…
I’d be bloody embarrassed if I drove one.
The Rivian R3X can’t come soon enough.
I’m probably not your coworker, but it was the case with me. I liked the guy when he was a weird nerd and I liked the car.
I still like the car to be honest but I’m seriously considering buying a bumper sticker with “I bought this before I knew he was a Nazi”.
No way I’m buying another one as long and he’s related to the company in any way.
Great!!😀
Musk’s clown car of leadership finally careens into reality. When your CEO’s political acumen involves cosplaying as a far-right edgelord, even Europe’s EV adopters—historically tolerant of overpriced gadgets—start side-eyeing the brand. Tesla’s not a car company anymore; it’s a vanity project for a man who thinks “free speech” means platforming Nazis.
Meanwhile, European automakers are quietly eating Tesla’s lunch with actual innovation, not just empty hype. Musk’s fanbase? A shrinking cult of tech bros and crypto gamblers. The rest of us? We’ve moved on to cars that don’t come with a side of embarrassing billionaire tantrums.
Democracy’s broken? Sure. But watching Musk torch his own empire? Chef’s kiss.
What’s the difference between someone cosplaying as a far-right edgelord and an actual far-right edgelord?
The difference? One is a poser draped in the aesthetics of reactionary outrage to court attention and controversy, while the other is fully marinated in the ideology, living and breathing it. The former plays dress-up for clout; the latter believes the costume is their skin.
But let’s not split hairs—both are toxic. Whether it’s cosplay or conviction, the result is the same: amplifying regressive garbage under the guise of “provocation.” One just happens to be better at monetizing it.
I have yet to find someone who is truly just “Posing” with this shit and not just using “its a joke, bro” to claim not following that ideology. If they didnt at first, they developed that ideology quickly.
