womp womp, isnt that what the right wingers say… Only they originally said it about a story about seperating an “illegal imigrant” 10 year old girl with downs syndrome from her parents and keeping her in a cage, if I recall correctly. And then they refused to apologize for it.
Not only that, but they very much acted like they were the ones who were owed an apology
I prefer the Crooked Media shows, especially Pod Save America. But I usually check out the most recent MeidasTouch when I’m all cought up with my podcasts.
I’ve been listening to pod on an off for years. Quality is always there and they’re upfront about their positions so I feel like I’m listening to actual discussion, not someone trying to convince me. I need to check out MeidasTouch I guess
I used to listen to pod save America but got turned off in 2015. I’ve always felt they were too much of the pearl clutching DNC type. I like medias more than something like chapo trap house. I generally don’t like things that talk about current events though. The ones I like are just preaching to the choir and don’t really accomplish things for me.
Any nothing of value was created or destroyed.
Bias fucking bullshit. Why is Joe Rogan named and not the podcast that usurped him? Media fucking blows
They name it in the first sentence, and at least for me, given it’s longevity and word of mouth I know what Joe Rogan implies, but if you said “MeidasTouch” in the headline, I’d have no idea the implication of that shift, since I haven’t listened to either of the two.
You can do both in a title.
If they just put the name I would have no idea who they are. Writing the full name plus “,an anti-Trump podcast” would be a really long title with extra info they get in the first sentence.
Wanting to stop at the headline is a bad habit. Just click the article and complain if the name isn’t right there.
Be that as it may, we know that the majority of readers wouldn’t read past the title. Knowing this, NewsWeek still decided to not include the name of the anti-trump podcast which dethroned Joe Rogan’s podcast. I think this is the bias that they are referring to.
“Anti-Trump podcast MeidasTouch dethrones Rogan in charts”
That’s two fewer words than the original headline. 🤷♂️
You can, but clickbait rags want you to click to find out what they intentionally left out of the title.
Wdym? It literally says the podcast name is “The MeidasTouch Podcast” in the first sentence.
Per the other comment, headlines. Internet dwellers read the headline to decide whether or not to read something. You can think of a headline as involuntary information injection.
So Newsweek wants everyone to see Joe Rogan’s name but not MeidasTouch.
Headlines are important
Suck it, Daniel Ek
So they replaced one form of garbage with another?
I hate to have to inform you of this, but if you don’t like leftists, and moderate leftists, you’re in the wrong social media platform.
We are sooner going to unite against class traitorism than we will tankies. Just an FYI we defederated from the tankies.
This comment here is why Lemmy will never get even a percent of reddit user numbers. Who gives a shit about that nonsense.
Good
The ability of Lemmy to alienate even center left liberals never ceases to amaze me. The only way to stop Trump is a broad alliance from center right to left, not some communist revolution fantasy.
Users of a platform complaining about the platform they are actively using never ceases to amaze me.
If you are trying to imply Democrats are leftists you are fucking delusional. Liberals don’t understand class unity and do everything they can to prevent it from happening.
Where in the fuck did I say anything like that? Stop projecting your own shit on to me. The Democrats are a corporatist right wing party that I only am willing to vote for because the opposition is literally fascist. Just because I am stuck in a broken system doesn’t mean that I support it in any way other than harm reduction. Try and look at my name again before you assume shit about me.
Unsurprising .ml
Why don’t they list MeidasTouch in the headline?
Better title: “Pro-America podcast MeidasTouch dethrones shitty pro-donvict podcast in the charts”
newsweek.com, a known right wing source, thats why.
Eeeeh. I can’t be the only one who won’t touch something described as “pro-America” with a ten foot pole.
I think it’s a mistake to let the right winger take claim to everything related to patriotism and national symbols.
I will say, before the election, i was watching them pretty hard. I dropped it for my own mental health after the election though. I wasn’t a huge fan of Ben Meiselas because he became more and more sensational but I really liked Michael Popoks legal commentary. I felt like Ben started shading into the tone and repetition patterns of the far right podcasters but either way, they both always had their facts straight and everything they said and predicted was backed by evidence and legal experience. Popok is a smart fuckin dude though.
Also, I’d say they’re “pro democracy” as that’s the line they always pushed unless it changed after the election.
If you want to ease into it just check out Popoks stuff as it’s way more objective. I learned so much about the legal/judicial system from him and it was all validated by other sources.
Agree popok is the juice on that channel. Agnifilo used to be there a lot too
Aww, did she leave? She didn’t have popoks stage presence but she was still sharp as fuck
i think she might be busy? nah don’t ring a bell?
I’m still subscribed but otherwise I share your thoughts exactly. Is also how I heard of the gal defending Luigi, I really enjoyed her stuff with Popok. I still feel like I can’t get back into any of it anymore though. Like what does it matter if everything they say is factually accurate if at the end of the day the law doesn’t matter and facts don’t seem to matter.
Just listened a bit. These guys deep dive quite a bit, but I hope that this bump is from people who are previous Trump voters that now realize how fucked they are by Trump and get angry.
Unlikely. Trump is a cult. He can do no wrong.
Not with that attitude. But go off! keep perpetuating it
What else could he do that he hasn’t already done?
Apologize and show humilty and remorse for his actions and those he’s insipred and enabled?
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“Heil Satan!”
Might lose 3% of his cultists. The rest will be “I’ve always been cool with Satan, just like Russia!”
Leave Satan out of this.
Shit, I think we’ve all been asking ourselves that on a regular basis for years now and here we are still regularly surprised.
And would it harm him? Probably not.
It’s been 9 years and an unfathomable amount of indictable behaviors in broad daylight recorderded in 4K… I’m done holding out hope for these people, they are sick.
He’s created that in large part because of the media environment around him. Many republicans were upset and outraged on Jan 6th until they heard the fox news, rogan, etc line
Change the media consumption and a lot will follow from there. Changes to which media are more dominate are going to matter more than people think
Trump is a conman and excellent salesman.
In a cult he could say whatever and they’d believe him. This did not work out well when he tried to get MAGA vaccinated with the vaccines “he” produced.
Instead he floats everything under the rainbow and runs with whatever gets the most cheers.
https://youtu.be/klYjLMJ4z3E?t=646 Timestamp 10:47 for a cult expert explaining it.
Do they actually do interviews with experts? Or is it just two dudes pretending to be experts and presenting (mis)information
Yes they do. They also interview a lot of the Democratic congress critters. The lawyer that represents Luigi has been a regular contributor to the Meidas Touch for the last year or so.
Jon Stewart’s podcast is also good if you want interviews with experts. He also gets far more nerdy and into the weeds in his podcast than he ever was allowed to on TV or streaming
I was wondering why my dad texted me today to tell me George Soros was planning to fund anti Trump podcasts
crazy to me that he’s thinking the guy who might be funding anti Trump podcasts is a threat and not the richest man in the world who has agents infiltrating and collecting data on every government agency. Like, is dudes tin foil hat on right?
It is amazing how fast their propaganda machines work. They will anticipate breaking stories and provide bullshit lines of reasoning to discredit them before they are even widely shared.
They’ve had decades to finely tune the propaganda machine — utilizing surveillance capitalism, big data, and analytics — A/B testing their PsyOps campaigns in real-time.
The whole Cambridge Analytica debacle occurred almost a decade ago, and every criminal involved went on to bigger and better criminal enterprises. Major political parties across western “democracies” were directly involved in treasonous disinformation campaigns against their own citizens — a multinational corporate oligarchy were directly involved — that’s why there were zero consequences…
We’ve already been living in corporate dictatorships for a long time. We just didn’t know it yet.
Everything you say is true. You can also trace this form of psychological warfare back to WWII. Propaganda got a real bad rap because of how it was used to manipulate people around the world. It was repackaged and renamed as public relations.
This should have been the tipping point of governments rejecting propaganda and protecting their citizens from its effects. Instead they decided to use the best of psychology and sociology to continue to manipulate people. This is a basic violation of human rights so egregious that any government that allows it has betrayed its own people.
We’ve already been living in corporate dictatorships for a long time. We just didn’t know it yet.
Can’t really overstate that.
Meh. Dumb voters will just flock to the next trigger topic.
Listen. It’s not just dumb voters. It’s a conservative propaganda vessel that funds any right-leaning talking points. It’s madness being poured into any willing ear, all it takes is a little fear to let them in. I want to believe that individual volition trumps this by-the-numbers propaganda, but the proof is in the pudding. Make people scared and isolated and you can make them believe whatever shit you want (at least, on a macro scale)
Totally. I know plenty of people who would be considered smart by any standard, but when you’re mainlining propaganda every hour, of every day, for multiple decades… it’ll twist a person.
And it’s everywhere!
Don’t trust the mainstream media they say, but these days Facebook, YouTube, instagram, etc have billions of users worldwide. Those are mainstream media.
So in a way they’re right, but they seem to think Facebook and YouTube are some hot new thing and they can be trusted because they’re not part of “the establishment” or whatever. Those of us who were around since the beginning saw the decline from cat-video-sharing-platform to propaganda outlet. Hopefully more people start realizing it.
100%.
When I think about it for a while, my thoughts always come back to “What is truth? What is a fact? Why do I think my news consumption is more factual than this person’s news consumption?”
I’m not a philosopher, and I think it’s a tricky question to answer. I’ve found myself on the Stanford Philosophy Wiki. There’s a ton of good stuff in there.
Of course, on a practical level, you’re rarely going to be debating “what is a fact?” when you’re arguing with your MAGA relations. My “normal” answer is that I try to get my news from sources that have reputations for fact-checking / rigor (AP / Reuters etc etc).
However, if you’ve spent all your time consuming Fox / Newsmax / AM Radio in the late 90s / aughts, your mental model of AP / Reuters is not my mental model. Anything outside of your right-wing bubble is to be shinned. To you, AP and Reuters do not have a reputation for rigor. They’re part of a liberal conspiracy funded by the government and George Soros to demonize conservatives / brainwash the libs.
It’s a tricky problem. I feel like we’re in an era where the Dawn of the Internet / Social media is analogous to the advent of the printing press. We just don’t know how to handle the firehose of information.
There’s a huge part of me that thinks that recommendation algorithms need to be regulated.
Honestly, where it really breaks down for me is how they constantly portray other people as villains and tell you what their beliefs are.
There is no problem with gay rapists, immigrant murderers, trans baby-eaters, etc etc. No more than any other segment of society anyway.
I was taught not to always believe what others say about… others. If you want to know where someone stands, talk to them, don’t take a 3rd party’s word for it.
Although that doesn’t apply to people who confirmed super-liars.
You make a really excellent point.
Something similar is playing out with DOGE finding “waste” and “fraud.” Very little in the say if of evidence, much in the way of waving around papers at a press conference / shitposting on Twitter and screeching “Woke DEI spending has been slashed.”
Tbh, I get it. I understand why it works. Most people aren’t political junkies. Most people don’t really follow the news. They’re busy just trying to get through their day.
That said, I read a good comment once- “You might not care about politics, but politics cares about you.” I only wish more people understood that. Unfortunately, our economic system works against it.
Random aside, I wish we had strong labor unions in the US. They’d be very beneficial at this time.
It’s not only true for the right. The left has its own problems with propaganda, dogmatism, and fake news. Some of it resulting directly from trying to counter the effectiveness of the right wing. Extreme polarization is the outcome and discourse becomes impossible.
Change conservative to liberal, right leaning to Democrat and you’ve just described MeidasTouch. They’re nothing but mouthpieces for the DNC. The way that people like Rogan were mouthpieces for the RNC.
You’re not wrong but any cultural shift like this is enough to cling to optimism. If/when the fast food catches up to Trump and he croaks JD Vance will be the one trying to defend these trash policies. Him (or anybody else) are not going to be as effective bullshit artists…
LOOK HOW DESPERATE I AM FOR GOOD NEWS. LET ME HAVE THIS!!!
The Republicans aren’t looking for leadership or ideas, they’re looking for a strong man who beats his chest at “Soy boy rivals”
Vance… aint that guy
Surprised hoe has anytime to podcast while he is dick riding musk and his billionaire pals
Surprised hoe!
Is that his wife smiling menacingly to the right of the thumbnail?
She tripping balls or something prob.
I think this is the chart they are talking about, if anyone’s curious.
Good.
Hmm, one success speaks more to that one podcast’s popularity than a political shift.
