Summary
A European Parliament member claimed that the U.S. gave Europe three weeks to agree on Ukraine’s “surrender” terms or risk an American withdrawal from Europe.
Mika Aaltola made the claim on X, but provided no evidence. NBC News reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suggested a U.S. troop reduction in Europe.
Trump reportedly plans to cut 20,000 troops and demand greater NATO contributions. He has pushed for higher NATO defense spending.
Trump may meet with Putin soon, believing Russia holds the upper hand in negotiations.
It’s the US that are surrendering, not Ukraine nor Europe. This is a defeat for the US, I don’t see other countries that could be qualified as being defeated. Russia not yet but we’re getting there. With or without the US.
In a post on X, formerly Twitter, Finland’s Mika Aaltola of the European People’s Party claimed that the U.S. “has given us three weeks to agree on terms for Ukraine’s surrender,” referring to a proposed peace deal aimed at ending the war.
“If we don’t, the United States will withdraw from Europe,” Aaltola added.
Trump is demanding that Europe hand Ukraine to Russia, or he will hand Europe to Russia. This man is not working for the good of the USA or its traditional allies. He is working against them, destroying Europe, NATO and the USA for the sake of himself, Vladimir Putin and a few Nazi billionaires.
And clearly when he threatens Europe like that they should not for a minute believe that he will not hand them over to Russia if they do what he says. Given that, Europe should tell him to get lost.
To be fair, Mika Aaltola is known in Finland as a noted populist and doomsayer that has a flair for the dramatic. His foreign policy predictions have also been pretty much all wrong since before the start of war in Ukraine.
I’d take anything he says or leaks with a big spoon of salt.
He is also lying he will hand over Europe the second Ukraine falls or daddy Putin commands him to.
If any European country bows down to Donald, I’ll boycott it for the rest of my life
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“If any man dies with a clean sword, I’ll rape his fucking corpse!” - Winston Churchill, 1940.
Hungary and Slovakia for sure. Italy is heading in that direction after Meloni cried about the anti-trump meeting held in Paris.
You can count on Hungary and maybe Slovakia to grovel…like good america/russia first Europeans.
Possibly Serbia too
Serbia is in Europe but not in EU, in this case their opinion (which probably aligns with the Kremlin) doesn’t count
Repuglican patsy sure talks big
Being an American that feels like they no longer have a home, I would like Europe to unleash holy hell upon the US. Do not let this fascicle president dictate what you do for your continent. You were fine before we took over swaths of your countries for their bases, you can be the strong leaders that the West need to fight everything that’s going on in your vicinity with Russia, North Korea, and any other rogue nation. I hate to say it, but the US is a part of that sentence as well. The US will not protect you anymore, I have absolutely no faith that the US will step up when you need them the most. Protect yourselves.
fascicle
Never seen this word before and in my head I just read “foshizzle”
Europe countries do not have the power to “unleash holy hell upon the US.”
That you?
This but economy 101. Why waste military hardware when the most precious thing the US has economically is their high tech sector. Let’s tank it for the Lulz.
The most triggering for Trump would be to ignore the gulf of America thingy… Keep calling the gulf of Mexico., the gulf of Mexico.
France’s thermonuclear arsenal says hello.
Not really what we want to do though, surely.
Yeah, well we didn’t vote for him. He can keep his lunacy for his subjects.
Pretty sure they didn’t vote for him either.
I’m begging for Americans to do something against Trump. You can’t just let someone who’s so blatantly under Putin’s thumb destroy everything.
Over 50% of the once that went voting voted for trump. If you didnt vote, that was your vote. The vote to not give a fuck but still life with the aftermath
Under 50%, he only got 49% of the vote.
Does that include the ballot images that musk created on his behalf?
Yep
We’re not even talking about massive voter suppression.
The European NATO members should tell the AmeriKans they have 3 weeks to shutdown all their military bases until Jan 2029.
And keep them shut if fair elections are not allowed to be carried out by their reality tv star dictator.
Nah. Keep them closed forever. We dont need the traitor alliance
Or… Trump can pull the us military out of Europe, Canada joins the EU, and we seize American and russian assets to build a truly massive army.
EU with the last part already way ahead of you
The very first requirement to join the EU is to be in Europe. Try seizing American assets and see what happens.
Trump tries to send the army to fight the Europeans and they refuse because they aren’t as r****ded as he is?
risk an American withdrawal from Europe.
Do it, coward
I really do hope the eu doesn’t even negotiate with terrorists.
Boy do I wish the EU and the UK would sign an agreement to cut all trade immediately with the U.S. and force the isolation this bafoon pretends they want. Prices will skyrocket everywhere, but the number of dumb Trump followers will fall off a cliff and he would be forced to step down by the oligarchs he surrounded himself with. The market would crash for certain.
Idk anymore. The maga handlers have complete control of the maga cult media machine. I could imagine this happening, and right media spinning up a lie that maga eats up. “Biden did this with the Democrats!” He encouraged a coup that was recorded, and people all but forgot about it.
They can lie all they want. No trade means inflation. Inflation means markets crashing. It can’t be stopped without spreading wealth oligarchs don’t want to share with those in need. When people starve, they will murder rampantly to stay alive.
Most of the rich are smart enough to know they only stay rich if the people stay peaceful and mildly satiated. You don’t want to lock yourself in with 250,000,000 starving people with guns.
338M
I was just doing rough math for the almost 60%+ that live paycheck to paycheck. Figure those people will make it about a month with that kind of inflation before they can’t make rent/food/ whatever
these billionaires have bunkers in NZ, they arnt staying here incase shit like this happens.
Point is they wouldn’t let it happen. They’d stop it by throwing Trump and co under the bus and take their money and power to the next best thing. Which would likely be backing a stupid moderate Democrat and getting things “back to normal” as fast as possible
You’re talking about the negative results, but the important point is who is attributed as causing them or the reason behind them. If there’s record inflation, I can imagine a situation where MAGAs believe it’s for a good reason, or because woke caused it or something. Remember, people died with covid, in complete disbelief of it because of conservative spin.
I’m hoping people wake up, but who knows how far we must fall before they do. Jan 6 and COVID I thought were those points. But here we are at depths unimaginable, and accelerating.
In regards to oligarchs, look how bad things are in other countries. Russia is an example where people have less rights, freedoms and money than us yet they aren’t rebelling. We can still reach that point sadly. I hope you’re right that people wake up and become angry way before they point.
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We’ll keep all the non-personel weaponry tyvm!
We need regime change in the USA. The global community should work together for this endeavor.
Fuck him. First, he’ll do what we wants regardless of whether you concede to his demands. If we wants to withdraw troops, he’ll withdraw them, no matter what concessions you make to him in hopes of preventing that. Look at his history. Look at how he has treated the other party in Every. Single. One. of the “deals” that he’s made. He fucks them over. NEVER believe he’ll hold up his side of whatever bargain you make. He won’t.
Don’t ever concede to this bully. The more you concede, the more demands he’ll make, like with a blackmailer. Call his bluff. Say, “Sorry, we don’t agree. If that means you’ll withdraw, then don’t let the screen door hit ya where the good lord split ya on the way out.” Bam! End of bullying and if he didn’t want to withdraw, he’ll find some excuse no to go through with it (or probably just lie and say you agreed to do something for him behind the scenes).
Ukraine can’t survive without US assistance.
Maybe not, even probably not, but with Europe’s help it can at least keep fighting for now, with the possibility that something could happen in US or Russia to change the equation in that time. That’s all very uncertain, but what is certain is that if Europe agrees to this Putin/Trump terms of surrender, it’s over for Ukraine immediately. And then other countries will be next.
We don’t know for certain whether other countries will be next or not.
Europe providing more support for Ukraine hoping for a miracle might lead to more suffering for Ukrainians and just more territory losses. That’s a risky bet. It also feels like a half hearted measure. Might be time Europe goes all in it really thinks Russia is an existential threat.
We do know for certain, we know Putin’s plans, he’s not exactly keeping them secret. In this new situation that is more positive for him, he has no reason to suddenly choose not to continue.
I insist that we don’t know for certain what Putin’s plans are. If you are so sure yourself, would you bet your most valuable possession on it?
Besides, if you are so sure of that, isn’t time for European countries to drastically ramp up support for Ukraine and join the war?
risk an American withdrawal from Europe.
Why is this a threat? Is there a reason Europe would want a hostile country to remain there?
Because Europe can’t defend itself.
Yeah. We need to prepare to defend Greenland from the US. Having 100.000 enemy troops stationed all over the continent who need to be contained first makes it practically impossible.
And now the mask is finally peeling off. The US bases around the world are not their to defend the countries they are in. They are there to defend the US interests. This should be obvious to anyone, who can read just a little bit of history, but better late than never.
I agree, but at least before Trump defending Europe was a common interest of Europe and the USA
He can shove this bullshit up his fat orange ass.
If I was a Russian agent, and had managed to become the US President, he’s doing EXACTLY what I would to to gut and destroy the US. The Fanta Menace doesn’t even seem to be trying to hide the fact he works for Putin. So how has he not been charges with treason? Signed, Confused Non-US person.
Fanta Menace 🤣
Because the republicans have spent years gutting oversight, and decades making the populace dumber. This is their final putsch to fully gut the government so they can have complete power. And they’ve mostly succeeded already. The people are beyond disengaged from four years of this four years ago, plus Covid, plus struggling to survive in late stage American capitalism. It’s the perfect storm for a fascist takeover. And they’re taking full advantage.
Brilliant use of putsch!
Is that recent picture?
Dude may not have three weeks.
Imagine what he’d look like without the make-up.
I’m pretty sure he’s on Ozempic now.
Denmark should really stop exporting that to them
