• pyre@lemmy.world
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    francesca fiorentini called it Alligator Auschwitz, which i like because it keeps the alliteration while conveying the concentration camp idea.

    edit: i heard it from her first but many leftists seem to be calling it that; my bad.

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    Call it something that implies the administration collectively has small penises. They seem to be insecure about that.

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    I don’t actually want to say this but the USA was founded on genocide. It literally killed the native americans to take their land, same as hitler attempted to do with the polish people.

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      i see this sentiment a lot, and i just wonder if there are some people unaware that America was colonized by europeans

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        I think it’s more that we are way into blissful ignorance in this country.

        If you polled the citizens to ask whether America was founded/discovered by European explorers, the vast majority would agree. But of course, even if 80% or 90% get it right that still means tens of millions got it wrong.

        But if you polled the citizens to ask whether US territory was simply discovered or stolen from existing inhabitants by murdering/genociding them, I bet you would flip the numbers.

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      “That wasn’t genocide, it was an upgrade. They had no civilization. We rehabbed those savages.” –my grandfather, probably.

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    The disillusioning thing, besides the grim, efficient-looking guards and their rifles, was in the faces of the prisoners. Under a smiling sky, there was not a smile in the 2,000. They looked sour, grim, sullen, sad or merely apathetic.

    Gee, can’t imagine why.

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      I’m convinced this place is designed to kill people. I mean, they defunded noaa, cancelled FEMA, and built a hastily constructed, non-storm rated facility and dropped it in hurricane alley. It’s already flooded once.

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    THEY’RE SELLING MERCHANDISE LIKE IT’S A GODDAMN AMUSEMENT PARK! HUMANITY HAS FAILED! WE ARE A FAILED SPECIES AND WILL PROBABLY GO EXTINCT FROM THE SELFISHNESS AND GREED OF A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE POPULATION

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      Alligator Auschwitz

      Bum-Fuck Buchenwald

      Crocodile Kraków

      DeSantis Dachau

      Everglades Esterwegen

      Gator Gross-Rossen

      Hillbilly Hinzert

      MAGA Mauthhausen

      Redneck Ravensbrüch

      South-Florida Sachsenhausen

      Trump Treblinka

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        Here are some scary facts about Treblinka: it was in operation for about 18 months, was staffed at any one time by about 25 German officers and soldiers and 100 civilian workers, executed people with the exhaust from a single salvaged Russian tank engine, and murdered about 900,000 people in total. People tend to assume that the Holocaust was a massive industrial-scale operation that used up a huge fraction of German resources, but in fact it was a remarkably low-cost operation for the most part. Even the transportation aspect largely made use of supply trains returning otherwise empty from the front. If Hitler had not been stopped militarily, Germany would have had no technical difficulty in carrying out his goal of literally exterminating the nearly 200 million people of the Soviet Union.

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        The sad truth is that most Americans, especially Trump voters, are likely, maybe, to have heard of Auschwitz, and even then only having heard of it and not knowing what it is, but have never seen those others in their life.

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          I’m admittedly a little better read on the subject than most Americans

          Off the top of my head, I’d probably be able to rattle off Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Dachau, Krakow, and Treblinka off the top of my head.

          Small side rant, my mom’s side of the family is Polish. Most of my mom’s grandparents (my great grandparents) were off-the-boat from Poland, I know at least one of them never became a US citizen. We have some family still in Poland, we’re not exactly in regular contact but we know more or less how to track each other down when we want to.

          Years ago, well-before I was born, my mom’s family went to visit those relatives. There is honestly probably enough material from that trip (and from when a relative from Poland was able to visit the US back then) to write a pretty decent short book, or at least a couple solid blog posts. Lots of interesting comparisons between the state of things in the US and Poland during the Cold War to be made.

          One of the things they did was visit Auschwitz. Seeing that was something that definitely shaped my mom’s worldview from there on out. To her credit, my mom already had her head screwed on pretty straight before that when it came to racial tolerance and such.

          She would occasionally tell us little bits about it when we were growing up, not like she purposely sat us down and gave us a Holocaust talk or anything, it was just something that came up occasionally when appropriate

          I don’t know if this was ever an intentional choice by her, but she never really said who built and ran the camps, who was sent there, why, etc. she pretty much just left it at they were places that existed, and that people did various kinds of horrible things to other people there.

          As far as I knew, it was all Polish people (not unlike myself) doing horrible things to other Poles, for reasons I couldn’t really wrap my head around. It wasn’t until we started learning about WWII and the Holocaust in school that the details of who and my started falling into place.

          But by that point, I think the key message about people being capable of immense cruelty towards other people had really been firmly planted in my mind. The fact that one side or the other are Jews, Poles, Germans, LGBT people, Romani, black, white, Hispanic, Christian, Muslim, Palestinian, Hutu, Tutsi, Armenian , Uyghur, etc. isn’t really important compared to the idea that this is something that people like me could do to other people who are also just like me, and I need to be vigilant to make sure that doesn’t happen.

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    AND IN THE DAYS FOLLOWING THE OPENING OF THE CONCENTRATION CAMP CNN WAS FOCUSING MOST OF ITS ATTENTION ON THE TRIAL OF FUCKING P DIDDY

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      IKR? Puff Daddy is the kind of artist I generally could care less about since forever, and yet, it’s nearly impossible to escape knowing some amount of detail about his propensity for lube or that NazYe showed up to his trial.

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    Not for the first time in American history, but hopefully for the last time.

    People give me shit for getting hung up on specifics, but remember that the majority of Germans really didn’t know what was going on at the camps till the very end of the war when they were shown film evidence of camps being liberated.

    The literal card carrying nazis tried to hide it better than what is happening now, when members of the party openly “joke” about feeding 65 million (the number of Hispanics, not immigrants even if legal were included) to alligators, there is no logical reason to believe they’re being honest about what is really happening there.

    Alligators have stomach acid strong enough to dissolve bone, it takes a while (months?) but eventually there will be no trace of a body. They could literally be tossing them in a swamp to dispose of bodies and because of how shadowy arrests have been, I doubt they’re keeping good records of inmates.

    People are going to disappear

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      This is also pretty much incorrect. They might not have known specifics or scale necessarily, but if you read interviews RIGHT AFTER the war, pretty much everybody in German territory at least knew someone who had been dragged off to a camp, at gunpoint usually, and their house and possessions put up for auction literally within a week. After two or three of these, you get the message.

      They knew, by and large, that these people were not coming back. These concentration camps were outside Germany, but many, if not most, Germans figured it out for themselves. Many were simply willing to put it aside because Depression Weimar was like Revolutionary France, and people were willing to take the first strongman that came across and said “hey I KNOW how we need to fix this, and it starts with THOSE GUYS whose fault it all is”.

      The film evidence was for the core of the core of the empire - Berlin, Munich, etc, where your average citizen might’ve been afforded protection from the watching the nice Goldschmidt family marched out of their house, and for posterity so people couldn’t do what people in the US were already trying to do with the Native American genocide and chattel slavery.

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      People give me shit for getting hung up on specifics, but remember that the majority of Germans really didn’t know what was going on at the camps till the very end of the war when they were shown film evidence of camps being liberated.

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      but hopefully for the last time

      That’s what they said last time. “Never again” etc.

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      Hey sure, “didn’t know” but that’s a low bar. How about “could easily have guessed” as the basic standard for morality when death camps are involved?

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        Unfortunately, the Nazis were only removed from power by an external military force much greater than them. Even after the war was utterly lost and the Allies were closing in on all sides and literally turning their cities into heaps of rubble, the Nazis never lost their chokehold on Germany. What external power is coming to remove Trump and his cronies?

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    Wasn’t “concentration camp” a euphemism, too?

    I mean, most people know people are not doing any “camping” at such a place, but…still.

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      No.

      Camp means encampment. Which refers to temporary or light shelter, usually for a group. And the term “concentration camp” is from the 1800s.

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    Where is united nations organisation ? Why are they not saying anything against USA policies ?

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      oh boy the UN sends another strongly worded letter.

      the UN is just a dog and pony show, they have no power at all, anywhere.

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      The UN has no power against the United States. The UN was setup to favor western powers and ideally prevent them from having direct war with one another again. Until the US bombs another Western country in the UN there is so reason to look to the UN for anything but empty condemnation.

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        Yes, they can veto, but others should at least be going on the record and REQUIRING the US to use its veto.

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        This is some of the stupidest shit I hear on a regular basis. All my childhood, we were taught the phrase ‘checks and balances’ and then you come across shit like this. No one thought about any one of the UN powers becoming a problem? Does no one plan for these systems designed to prevent abuse to be… abused? “Sorry. Can’t tell them to stop the genocide. Go ask your mother.” Complete enabling bullshit.

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          The US simply would not join it it could not veto the security council. Same goes for the other permanent members. So there is no plan because powerful nations don’t want there to be one.