If I’m giving her the absolute benefit of the doubt, it just feels like she was an uneducated conservative parent who fell for Trump, and only just lately has she actually woken up to what he’s about.
I like to think she was just some lady who got hit on the head by a falling coconut, and that turned her into the cartoon character she was when we all met her, and since then she recently got hit by another coconut and now this is who she is.
I bet you would have said the same thing about Trump in 2016 and yet here we are. Attempting to understand the thought process of inherently irrational people is a losing battle.
Trump started saying on main the vile, despicable stuff American people had wanted to say since the civil rights movement. He can LARP as a successful person (a poor person’s idea of a rich person etc etc). Vance is as appealing as lukewarm cottage cheese.
Nah, when Trump won the nomination in 2016 I knew we were cooked. Vance doesn’t have the same appeal. He’s got the “owning libs” part down but his humor lacks a broader appeal, unlike Trump.
Sorry bud, I knew he was gonna win because Hillary was gonna lose. I did not think he was going to lose in 2020 though—and honestly I wish he won just so we would be done with it all by now. But that revenge project 2025, mixed with 4 years of him aging just killed the whole country.
I think she was a true believer who finally woke up to the fact that Trump and his lackeys are doing everything they can to prevent disclosure of the Epstein files. And that was like her main issue.
I think this is the case as well. Hers could be a valuable perspective for helping others to break free of their own trump derangement trance. Hope it spreads far and wide.
I think part of it is that she’s like every Confederate ever, on nearly every issue. It’s a trope for a reason - unless it affects them or someone very close to them, they don’t give a fuck. So one of their kids gets pregnant while a teen, or one of their kids comes out, etc…when it comes to the health insurance, it’s because her kids are hitting the 26 years mark.
If she can see the other stuff, that’s just icing on the cake, and I’ll take it. I mean the tariffs are probably Taco manipulating the market. It sickens me that someone like him can just brazenly enrich himself with the market manipulation, the grifting, and things like crypto. I guess Marj got sick of it, too, although I have to admit I’m surprised about it. My cynical self wonders if it’s because of some similar selfish reason the Confederates are known for. Still, the outcome is the same…
I think she’s simply a true believer, and all the other MAGA politicians are grifters; I think she has closer genuine beliefs to what most civilian MAGAs believe than the others within the government.
I don’t want her in power, but I’d take her over the grifters.
She wants a shitty America that conforms to her way of thinking. Problem is that trump is making it hard for her by making it hard on her constituents, and her ratings have been falling, so maybe this is all just self-preservation.
If I’m giving her the absolute benefit of the doubt, it just feels like she was an uneducated conservative parent who fell for Trump, and only just lately has she actually woken up to what he’s about.
It’s probably not as good as this though.
I like to think she was just some lady who got hit on the head by a falling coconut, and that turned her into the cartoon character she was when we all met her, and since then she recently got hit by another coconut and now this is who she is.
na… she’s an opportunist… coconuts have no role in this shit show. she will follow the populist winds to oblivion
Maybe she’s like a reverse John Fetterman. She was a MAGA fascist but then had a stroke and became a rational person. Opposite of fetterman.
I think she’s distancing herself from anything Epstein while she still can.
Right. I think she’s putting her money on Trump failing so she can run for president and say “see, I stood up”
Which is a brilliant move, if project 2025 fails.
If she splits the Vance vote then she will be doing the Lord’s Work
Vance is not running in 2028, it will be Donald Trump Jr. They won’t even need to change the hats.
I cannot actually imagine him doing very well in an election either way.
They will just rig it again.
I bet you would have said the same thing about Trump in 2016 and yet here we are. Attempting to understand the thought process of inherently irrational people is a losing battle.
vance has the appeal of a well fucked couch
What exactly would you describe as appealing about Trump?
Trump started saying on main the vile, despicable stuff American people had wanted to say since the civil rights movement. He can LARP as a successful person (a poor person’s idea of a rich person etc etc). Vance is as appealing as lukewarm cottage cheese.
Nah, when Trump won the nomination in 2016 I knew we were cooked. Vance doesn’t have the same appeal. He’s got the “owning libs” part down but his humor lacks a broader appeal, unlike Trump.
Vance has “the machine” behind him though. He was Thiel’s pick.
Sorry bud, I knew he was gonna win because Hillary was gonna lose. I did not think he was going to lose in 2020 though—and honestly I wish he won just so we would be done with it all by now. But that revenge project 2025, mixed with 4 years of him aging just killed the whole country.
Hillary won the popular vote. The electoral college should have been abolished after the election was stolen from Gore.
As I said, she was gonna lose
He may not need an election any more than Putin does.
This is the only way Vance stays in power. He’s shit when it’s anything other than someone else’s fully processed thought coming out of his mouth
That is definitely a concern…
Vote?
I think she was a true believer who finally woke up to the fact that Trump and his lackeys are doing everything they can to prevent disclosure of the Epstein files. And that was like her main issue.
Let’s be very clear: she’s a massively racist bootlicker, this is not a new leaf she turned over, it’s fucking around and finding out.
I think this is the case as well. Hers could be a valuable perspective for helping others to break free of their own trump derangement trance. Hope it spreads far and wide.
I think part of it is that she’s like every Confederate ever, on nearly every issue. It’s a trope for a reason - unless it affects them or someone very close to them, they don’t give a fuck. So one of their kids gets pregnant while a teen, or one of their kids comes out, etc…when it comes to the health insurance, it’s because her kids are hitting the 26 years mark.
If she can see the other stuff, that’s just icing on the cake, and I’ll take it. I mean the tariffs are probably Taco manipulating the market. It sickens me that someone like him can just brazenly enrich himself with the market manipulation, the grifting, and things like crypto. I guess Marj got sick of it, too, although I have to admit I’m surprised about it. My cynical self wonders if it’s because of some similar selfish reason the Confederates are known for. Still, the outcome is the same…
I think she’s simply a true believer, and all the other MAGA politicians are grifters; I think she has closer genuine beliefs to what most civilian MAGAs believe than the others within the government.
I don’t want her in power, but I’d take her over the grifters.
Her and RFK Jr I think are the true believers with respect to their stances compared to the broader sea of exploitative grifters.
That said, I’m not sure whether the grifters or the true believers are more dangerous…
She wants a shitty America that conforms to her way of thinking. Problem is that trump is making it hard for her by making it hard on her constituents, and her ratings have been falling, so maybe this is all just self-preservation.