• melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    37 minutes ago

    Sure. Let’s fire the salesman. It’s all his fault. Something smells musky here.

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    7 hours ago

    PSA: musk is a fascist and Nazi. Buying cars from Tesla directly supports him and thus all the terrible things he does. There are lots of much better electric cars if that’s what you want

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      1 hour ago

      Crazy how this is what determines how most of you spend your money, not whether what you’re buying is a good deal or not.

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          Nah. The crazy part is how they think it’s okay to be ripped off as long as it’s not by a fascist.

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            If my options are ripped off by a fascist or ripped off by not a fascist, then yes, I’ll choose to be ripped off by not a fascist. The fuck kind of argument did you think you were making?

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        “There are better cars”

        There really aren’t. No car has gotten anywhere close to the level of tech in Tesla. But sure, let’s ignore that and spend more on shittier car because FUCK YOU. no nice things for you while there are hungry kids in Africa!

        Buy what you want, he’s set for life regardless.

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          Yes the pinnacle of tech where you can’t get out of car is on fire. And no removing speaker grills to find a latch is not an acceptable solution when your panicking.

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      6 hours ago

      Not just buying.

      Even if you had yours from the salute, or whatever, he’s still using your driving data to train their self driving softwares.

      They’re still selling your data to whoever, too.

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    5 hours ago

    LOL “a journey of continuous evolution”. Is that corpo-speak for a never-ending shit-show with a lying, capricious CEO?

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        Eh, kind of. Musk is in this weird position where a lot of his wealth is tied up in one company in a way that he really can’t escape from. That’s why he keeps trying to build up XAI into something meaningful. He needs a back up plan for when Tesla’s share price finally collapses. And he can’t sell his stock because any time he does that it triggers an investor panic.

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      Tesla.

      Even before Musk went full mask-off, they only had a single practical vehicle- the Model Y.

      Model S and X are priced like super cars.

      Model 3 is impractical, being a Sedan/Saloon with a fixed rear wall behind the rear seats (it’s not a hatchback)

      Model Y is the only one that’s both practical and mildly affordable (it’s still overpriced) - but you’d be better served by a BYD Atto3 for a third of (~AU$35k) the price and the same build quality.

      (Atto1 is about a quarter of the price AU$24k vs. AU$96k, but it’s not the same build quality, Atto1 is built-to-a-price and that price is low…) (none of the listed prices are drive-away)

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        5 hours ago

        just a friendly reminder that BYD is heavily subsidized by the Chinese government specifically to provide this edge in competitiveness.

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            A bit more than 3 billion, a fair amount of it from state and local sources. Also, much of not exclusive to Tesla. (though in practice much of it was, simply because for the longest time was the only real EV manufacturer.

            On the other hand, BYD received a bit less than 4 billion in subsidies that were exclusive to BYD.

            The US EV subsidies weren’t about increasing competitiveness on foreign markets, but rather to increase adoption of EV’s domestically. That is untrue of BYD’s subsidies.

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                and how many has BYD accrued and sold? they’re available to BYD every bit as much as Tesla.

                Musk is a nazis, and he profits every second from Tesla. but that doesn’t make BYD the good guys.

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                  AFAIK you can’t get BYD Atto3 in USA or any other ordinary BYD car, because USA won’t allow competition, and has posted steep tariffs on cars from China and EU.
                  So how the fuck would BYD have received carbon credits for 10 years where thy haven’t been able to sell cars in USA?

                  Tesla is every bit as protected and subsidized as any Chinese brand.

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    Musk’s downgrading from Mars to the moon. He’ll now downgrade from selling Teslas to selling driverless Edsels (which, let’s face it, are a better design than Teslas anyway).

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      They did announce recently that they’re gonna stop making and selling the Model S and Model X and put more emphasis on humanoid robots and AI instead of cars. Everything over there in Muskland seems so terribly chaotic.