• sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
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    2 hours ago

    It’s hilarious…I meant to say horrifying…to see all the morons and imbeciles full-throating the appeal to the imaginary rational Republican as a way forward. It’s like they still believe in trickle down theory or some such already proven false bullshit.

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    Talarico stands a waaaay better shot of stealing votes from republicans. You would hope the repudiation of this administration is strong enough that either of them could win handily but it’s Texastan we are talking about. Talarico is a white christian man, even if he is not quite the right kind of Christian for most of them.

    Plus, I think he has a better stance on Palestine than Crockett.

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    Talerico is more electable by the simple fact that he is white and a male. He is inherently a bigger threat to the GOP in Texas.

    This is fucking Texas. You don’t want a firebrand because they will never get elected. This seat hasn’t been held by a dem since LBJ for Christs sake.

    You want the boring Christian white boy. And then you can build off of that.

    Don’t get me wrong. I like Crockett. But in a general election against a GOP party that has held this state in a stranglehold for the last thirty years, I’m voting on electability. Those independent voters are worth a hell of a lot more here.

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      50% of Americans are dumb fake Christians led by cynical cultists. Someone like Talerico is the only way we get meaningful change, which is why he represents a threat to the status quo.

      It is a shame that people are too stupid to see it.

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      Nah, Texans don’t like cowards. A firebrand is exactly the person needed. Anyways, picking candidates on electability is exactly what primaries are for. If you can’t win a primary, you aren’t exactly electable, are you?

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        Being able to win a primary does not equate to be electable. It just shows party preference. To be elected the candidate needs to be preferred by all voters.

        Smart parties pick the best endgame player.

        Like a sports team winning early games in a national competition, that doesn’t mean they are good enough to walk away the champions.

        Overall fitness, excellence, and likability must be considered vs the other opponents on the final ballot.

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        Talerico is the furthest thing from a coward. Every clip of him is awesome. I wouldn’t be surprised if the GOP are voting against him in the moronic primary because he can actually talk to Texans.

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        Picking candidates in a primary is not about electability. It’s about party representation. And it takes more than that to win an election, especially in Texas. This isn’t a swing state where we get that sort of luxury. This is a fight where it’s a 60/40 split in an average year. Cross over votes and mobilizing the independent demographic is our only chance.

        If Crockett gets the nomination, I have low expectations of a dem victory. I see better odds where we can pick up the disgruntled Christian old school Republican vote. And talerico can do that. Crockett cannot.

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    I did not realize that Talarico was running against Crocket. Crocket is my girl. Sorry Talarico, but it’s a no from me. Not like I live in Texas anyway.

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      I love Crocket but there’s a reason CBS blocked Talerico’s interview from airing. The guy represents the only actual threat the Texas GOP has faced in 3 decades. He knows how to talk to Christians. I’ve personally never seen anything like it in all my years.

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    I keep seeing this guy on facebook talking and he seems quite reasonable. What’s the catch with him? I know nothing about her.

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      To me him being reasonable is my main issue with him. He’s doing the whole “if we just explain things to Republicans with reason and rationality they will change their minds.” These people didn’t use reason to get into the positions they are in, and reasoning has not and never will work to get them out of those positions.

      Jasmine Crockett is imperfect, absolutely, but she brings the fight and the fire. She isn’t afraid to get down and stoop to their level and not hold back. They call names, she calls names, they talk shit, she talks shit. It’s not perfect, but it’s a way stronger way to fight back than this mealy-mouthed “we just need to explain it to them again” that the Democrats have been doing for my entire fucking lifetime of over forty years and has never worked once to make these people see reason. Even reasonable religious people aren’t enough to change the narrative, and I thought his discussion with Boebert proved that. Because she would just agree with him at every step of the way, and he wouldn’t and didn’t call her out directly, instead allowed her to weasel out and act like it’s other people not living up to Godly standards. He didn’t call her out and say “how is vaping and mashing your boyfriends dick in public with your tits half hanging out Godly behavior, ma’am?” Crockett is willing to play that game and get down, mean, and real. She was one of the few people who seemed to have left Pam Bondi speechless during those hearings recently, because she brings the fire, she doesn’t back down, and she’s willing to get into the mud with them so to speak.

      Talarico is just more milquetoast “reasoning” with unreasonable people. He’s right on the message, wrong on the delivery.

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        she’s a pistol. when she replied to MTG with “Bleach Blonde, Bad Built, Butch Body” she earned my vote.

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        The Colbert thing was the day this poll ended. So the additional publicity he got is not reflected in it.

        I don’t have a horse in this race, they both seem reasonable. I don’t know why Lemmings here are so down on him. Is it because he is very outspoken in his Christianity? Not all Christians are assholes.

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          I like him better, he seems less performative and like a good man with the courage of his convictions. In TX, he’ll probably have broader support while crockett might have more enthusiastic support. Both would be miles better than Paxton/Cornyn

          Oh, I also don’t like Crockett 's AIPAC support or that she jumped into the race after talarico

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            This is a good take I think. I’m kinda sick of performative politics even though that probably gets more traction in this day and age of media.

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        She will not win the general election in Texas that is a fact. A lot of people don’t realize that Democrats used to be the confederacy. Hell I grew up in Texas and tons of Democrats are racist. I remember hearing the joke around circles back in the day. “Voted for Obama because he half white”

        Or “I voted for the white half” She is great and I hope she does great things. But goddamn they kept electing Ted Cruz.

        But I will cross my fingers and hope that this does back fire on the GOP, that make my day. Of course I was bragging and excited about Trump losing to a black woman and the Democrats found a way to put Trump in office.

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          Talerico is sooooo much more threatening to the GOP. The guy absolutely dismantles their Christian demagoguery.

          He’s like Bernie Sanders for Christians.

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        I’d say Talerico is the progressive in this race. Crocket supports Israel and takes Aipac money.

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        I think they’ve both had their issues with where their money comes from, her corporate PACs, him with the Adelson family that’s trying to somehow get gambling legalized in Texas without any Native American reservations and with a Christofascist state government. That said, neither one is a Schumer-style appeaser. He wears a brand of class-conscious social justice theology on his sleeve, throwing the Christian Nationalists’ so-called faith into clear focus, but because of that he’s also very much pitching “electability,” which in Texas right now means “I’m a cishet white guy so maybe some of the racists will stay home on election day.”

        She is a firebrand who has made calling out Trump and the gang her full-time job, but her campaign seems to revel more in the idea of pissing off Donald Trump than in letting us know what she’ll do. There is a zeitgeisty element to that, and I think she’d be a more prominent and powerful advocate in Congress, but I think either would slot more into the Progressive wing. Ultimately, either would also be an insane improvement over Cornyn or (gag) Paxton.

        Would be remiss of course without mentioning the dustup where a Tiktoker left the Talarico camp for the Crockett camp, saying that Talarico told her he was expecting to run against a mediocre black guy, not a talented black woman. He’s admitted to using the word mediocre about Colin Allred’s prior campaign, and TBF it was extremely mediocre (like Allred knew from day one he had no chance, so why knock yourself out?), but if Talarico did try to add in Allred’s race as (one would hope) a rhetorical flourish, then it was a tone-deaf moment that harmed his credibility in promising to advocate for the black community. “Electability” with white people doesn’t help if you simultaneously depress the vote of the usual 4/9 of Texans who vote blue. I’m as white as Talarico is, but it really gave me pause.