Conspiracy theorist said to have been key promoter of false rumour about immigrants ex-president repeated in debate
Republicans are blaming the influence of Laura Loomer, a rightwing conspiracy theorist, for this week’s botched debate performance by Donald Trump, which included the former president repeating a bizarre and unfounded claim that pet cats and dogs were being eaten by Haitian immigrants.
Loomer flew with Trump on his private plane to Tuesday’s debate in Philadelphia and has been identified as a key promoter of the pets rumour, which has been dismissed as false by authorities in Springfield, Ohio, where the practice was alleged to have been taking place.
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Loomer, who styles herself as an “investigative journalist”, last year promoted a conspiracy theory alleging that 9/11 was an”inside job”. On Wednesday she posted an unfounded allegation that Harris had worn earphones disguised as earrings during the debate.
last year promoted a conspiracy theory alleging that 9/11 was an”inside job”.
How did this one go from leftists in the early 2000’s who thought Bush and Cheney ignored intelligence to let it happen to unhinged conspiratorial right wingers spouting the same bullshit. Leftists back then blamed it on warmongering and letting it happen so Bush could use the excuse to become a deeply loved “war President” (It worked… for a while) and Cheney could make a mint with no-bid contracts for Halliburton to rebuild Iraq. That… at least made some sort of sense. What’s the right-wing excuse for it being an inside job?
It’s like right-wingers decided to exploit valid distrust in the news media as stenographers for the government to make everyone crazy. The thing that’s crazy about it working is the distrust was sewn by them to begin with and then they turned around to exploit that same distrust. How do people not see that??
How did this one go from leftists in the early 2000’s who thought Bush and Cheney ignored intelligence to let it happen to unhinged conspiratorial right wingers spouting the same bullshit.
The exact same way that both the left and the right agree that Epstein didn’t kill himself, except one side thinks the AG of the then-current President who oversaw the DoJ and had connections to Epstein was responsible, and the other side thinks the presidential candidate that lost to Trump and retired from politics and has zero connections to the administration of the prison did it.
go from leftists
I never got the impression that 9/11 conspiracy theories were from leftists, though I could be wrong. I thought it was from everywhere.
I had every right winger freaking out that Bush and Cheney were beyond reproach and nothing could be further from the truth at the time. I lived in Louisiana and I learned to just shut the fuck up about it because people fucking loved Bush more than their own god damned families. Honestly, the environment wasn’t that much different from what we’re dealing with in terms of Trump.
Now it’s fucking gospel for half of the right wing. I don’t get it.
Although to be fair, Alex Jones was promoting that stuff at the time, and he’s been the throughline in the last 20 years. But people also assumed he was a leftist back then, too. The people showing me his Prison Planet videos in 2004-2005 that crowed that Bush was building prison camps were all super leftist people.
Actually, to be clear, this guy is the first person who ever showed me Alex Jones/Prison Planet:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-happened-to-pizza-at-mcdonalds/id1152856686
https://open.spotify.com/show/7pbtiktDvlEAyFHT7KR98Y
Brian Thompson of the Whatever Happened to Pizza at McDonald’s podcast. He was my neighbor and coworker at a local news station. He almost got fired because he was working the chyron and had jokingly changed it from “Donald Rumsfeld - Secretary of Defense” to “Donald Rumsfeld - War Criminal” and then accidentally put the joke on the air. Generally people who considered the Bush admin guilty of war crimes weren’t right wingers.
Ok you’re moving around a lot. This was about 9/11 conspiracies. Not love of Bush, not prison camps, not war crimes, (a lot of all that is the some people playing into the “you’re either with us or against us”). Those are all different than 9/11 conspiracies.
I brought up Jones because he was one of the main purveyors of 9/11 conspiracy theories as well as other conspiracy theories.
Love of Bush means you won’t buy the conspiracy, because you think Bush is a hero and wouldn’t do any such thing. That was the majority of conservatives at the time. Bush was so fucking popular he won the popular vote in 2004, something most other modern Republican Presidents have failed to do, relying on Electoral College wins. Despite the release of Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 in May 2004, a full 5 months before the election. (Michael Moore is traditionally leftist…)
Believing the Bush administration committed war crimes was absolutely tied to believing that we had entered unjust wars over false pretenses.
Love of Bush means some won’t buy the conspiracy. That does not rule out that 9/11 conspiracy theories could come from the right. They are not a harmonious group.
Just like entering the wars on WMD is different than 9/11 conspiracies.
You’re really all over the map, so I think I’m out.
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Does this sound like a right wing conspiracy theorist to you? https://youtu.be/NWxISwEBU0U
The problem with conspiracy theories is that even the ones grounded in reality and reasonable evidence attract the sort of people easily drawn into conspiracy theories as well as changing some people into them. And those people eventually find their way into the rabbit hole that leads towards deciding that problems must be caused by someone, and that someone must be those who are different and ends with accusing the Jews and gays of intentionally masterminding the destruction of society.
Funny, I just mentioned PNAC in another post earlier today.
I am never going to not believe bush/Cheney/runsfeld were in some part aware of/responsible for what happened.
Oh, same. There was boatloads of evidence that they just sort of… let it happen so they could exploit the situation. PNAC outlined that they needed “another Pearl Harbor.” They were honestly just as open as Project 2025 but back then no one took it as seriously as that even though they amount to the same thing.
That’s why it’s so fucked that it has become a right wing conspiracy…
Is Loony Loomer another Russian
assetasshat? Hmm…If he wasnt such a weak minded shithead he wouldve not wasted anyones time with that crap
So they fixed the electoral college, and they know victory is all but certain. That’s why they came up with the most cruel and despicable lie so that when Trump wins, despite losing the debate, progressives and leftists and sane people will be heartbroken and soul shattered.
This is how you know the electoral college is fixed, they have no fear of repercussions
If the electoral college didn’t exist, then all you had to do was campaign in LA, SFO, ATL and NY and ignore the rest of the country because popular vote wins and the biggest population centers would matter more. This is a really stupid fucking take please stfu about abolishing the EC because abolishing it results in politicians ignore minorities and their issues (i.e. racism, poverty, etc)
So letting a bunch of isolated inbred hermits in the middle of nowhere decide everything instead is a better way of doing things?
Yeah and with the way they have shit setup now the county with 1000 dip shit rednecks has as much voting power as a city of 250,000.
So? As a red state rust belt resident we already have the house and the senate that make sure that the middle of nowhere gets represented in the government. My state isn’t on your list and has three cities with more people than Wyoming. Shouldn’t there be somewhere where the majority of Americans get their way?
False. In fact, that would still be better than the handful of random swing states. Proportionality matters.
Besides, campaigns are run in the digital sphere anyway.
History proves you wrong. The fucking Three-Fifths Compromise proves you wrong! Imagine pretending we would somehow be more racist if we removed the Electoral College, I can’t even.
Hmm, and where do you think minorities live?
The deep South actually has the highest percentage of the USA’s black population.
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Which state and which presidential election has the indigenous vote been the thing that clinched things?
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When do they look like they care now? I have never seen a president campaign on a reservation. Insulting me is not going to make your point make sense. Presidents might not care about the indigenous without the electoral college, but they don’t care with the electoral college either. It’s a moot point.
As opposed to now where they completely ignored the most populous states and only campaign in swing states? That’s not better. Also, it’s not even true. They’d have to actually campaign everywhere.
Fascist detected
Def not a fascist if you read my post history
Idiot, then.
Well, ignorant or misinformed. Idiot isn’t necessary.
Yeah we wouldnt want politicans to actually go where the majority of the people they serve live
They’re eating the dogs! 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe they should actually - hear me out here - blame, I dunno, Donald Trump for what comes out of Donald Trump’s mouth? Rather than whatever idiot planted the most recent brain-dead conspiracy theory into his head? There will always be more idiots with brain-dead conspiracy theories, so maybe, just maybe, your candidate for President of the United States shouldn’t be a complete moron who falls for every single one of them?
Their constituents also always fall for these brain dead conspiracy theories.
Because Trump said it and is being mocked for it they are currently falling over themselves to prove that it’s real. Anything that looks like evidence proves it is true, any lack of evidence proves the Liberal Deep State is hiding it.Yeah, I too don’t understand why everyone around him is just OK with the idea of the guy being a completely responsibility-free empty vessel.
It seems that once again they want to absolve this…former president of all responsibilities, but him being responsible for what comes out of his donkey-brained mouth is the lowest possible bar of accountability before the bar clangs to the floor.
They love that about him because he can be manipulated to do anything they want. They just get upset when other people do it.
Trump knew it was bullshit. He just forgot that his audience wasn’t his brainwashed supporters.
Either that or he actually believed it was real. And I don’t know which one is worse.
I think he absolutely believed it. The “But I saw it on TV!” seemed 100% genuine.
Yeah he’s not nearly clever enough to be two-faced about this kind of stuff. He just believes whatever the people around him tell him to believe. It might be the scariest thing about him as Commander in Chief really.
What he believes is irrelevant except as mens rea, but at the same time he has given constant indication that he fully believes whatever is most convenient at the time. This is an individual who after over a decade involved in politics has embraced the card says moops with a consistency and commitment that surely must be pathological
The way he responded about the official statement reveals how he views all public servants as well. Paraphrasing the response to the official statement: “yeah, well that’s a nice thing for an official to say. But I saw it on TV what they were saying!”
His initial reaction is essentially “of course the official is lying, that’s what you do.”
Plus, he had “concept of a plan” in his front pocket. He had that think ready. If nothing else, his debate prep got that in his head.
He had it ready because he’s said it before and has been saying it since 2015. Seth Myers ran a supercut in his post-debate special.
When he said that it just made it so much worse. So he sees something on TV, decides it will benefit him in some way, so he repeats it.
With his feeble age and memory, he’s grown paranoid where he doesn’t even trust his team. So the people nearest to him are whispering.
So they admit he is easily fooled and is not a critical thinker?
She may be the idiot that kick-started the conspiracy but certainly was not alone thinking it was a winning attack.
AZ GOP booked 12 billboards in the Phoenix Metro area with this bs.
Former Arizona GOP chair Robert Graham told Axios the billboards are a “complete waste of money” because few voters are familiar with the rumors in the first place.
- “When you’re in election time you’re trying to inspire people to vote for your candidate, not make them solve a puzzle,” Graham said. “Republicans have a healthy message, or could have — it’s jobs, opportunity, prosperity, safety. We believe Republican governing principles are the best. We don’t need to put cow suits on the words.”
- Graham, who partially lived in Haiti for 11 years, said he didn’t think most people would find the billboards offensive, though, “I would take offense if I was Haitian, for sure.”
Wow. A GOP using and making sense.
Now you know why he’s “Former”.
Charge her with incitement for every crime against these people. This is such a heinous thing to do.
And if you want proof that American Christianity is a tribal identity not a belief in the gospels it’s the fact that it’s the people demanding this be a Christian nation terrorizing these refugees who happen to be predominately Christian
What about his comments on windmills, Mexican people, immigrants, the central park 5, soldiers, disable people… Fuck this POS doesn’t nerd help being a shit person. His domain expansion is being the worse person you ever met.
Okay, and?
Trump still said that shit. If Walz went to Harris and said, “The radical right is injecting holy water in babies’ eyes so they can see the lord” and she just said that shit without checking, I’d be looking at her sideways too. He went to a national debate and sputtered out nonsense that he didn’t verify or even question. That shit’s on him.
And it’s not Walz to compare that to. It’s more like if Natalie Wynn or another bread tuber did it. There’s a level of assumed trust between vp candidate and presidential candidate that this completely lacks (and this still would violate it). This lady is just some low level pundit calling herself a journalist
I think the connection is that it became a talking point because Vance brought it up. While it’s likely he doesn’t listen to Vance unless it’s filtered through an LCD, I think the comparison is pretty apt
Ah good, they found a woman to blame
Has anyone seen my lost shaker of salt?
Head on home and get that heel looked at.
In today’s news of “Every accusation the GOP makes is an admission of guilt”:
GOP accuses immigrants of eating pets, while today the GOP began eating its own pet, Laura Loomer.
MTG is just happy she finally found someone (slightly) more racist than her:
“If @KamalaHarris wins, the White House will smell like curry & White House speeches will be facilitated via a call center and the American people will only be able to convey their feedback through a customer satisfaction survey at the end of the call that nobody will understand,” Loomer wrote.
Good grief. The next few months cannot pass fast enough.
Try to enjoy them; if Trump wins, these will be remembered as the good times.
Your sweet old aunt and uncle support these people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Take a better look at a trump rally. This has nothing to do with age.
Well, a lot of them are paid to be there.
