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Not only are we in the worst timeline…
I actually don’t have anything to add.
How did we get here? And even more terrifying how many people that actually went to go vote were surprised that Biden wasn’t on the ticket?!?!
And let me just go ahead and get myself in trouble. Fuck you every single person that didn’t vote for Kamala Harris that was eligible.
SPECIFICALLY…
Well I guess I don’t want to get in trouble that bad.
Yes, this is the fucking bullshit we live with. Due to our winner-take-all insanely backwards system…
I’m not technically allowed to properly criticize whomever didn’t show up to the polls.
Whatever groups they may or may not belong to.
Yeah I’m sounding like a motherfucking Maga bitch right now…
But guess what Arab Americans and black men??!?!!? ( if and only if those are demographics that didn’t show up to vote )
Get completely and totally fucked by the Trump administration. Has nothing to do with me and everything do with them
Edit:
For what it’s worth I’m terribly sorry for not including the Latino vote that went to Trump
Ultimately it doesn’t really matter which particular demographic I blame because the truth is I’m not blaming anyone in particular.
Fuck America, fuck me, and fuck Trump
Oh yeah, blame the black and brown people for seeing genocide as a red line in who to vote for. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
No of course we cannot blame voters for staying home. They had a gun to their head. On the plus side, Palestine has been SAVED! ❤️❤️❤️
Palestine was fucked regardless. Atleast one party was honest about it.
Which one was that?
Thank God Palestine is saved and all will be well there forever now huh
It was always a lost cause tbh
You are pushed from the 50th floor or the 100th floor. Doesn’t matter. You die the same.
Put yourself in a position where you get fucked just the same regardless of who you vote then you don’t have any incentive to vote at all.
I am not American so I say this as a neutral observing party that you guys tried to bully the Arab Americans into voting for dems and that dishonest plea by John Oliver that was actually insulting. Dems don’t have balls to take a side and then expect votes from all sides.
You are pushed from the 10th floor some time in the next week, or you are pushed from the 10th floor immediately and shot after impact.
Which is better?
And there it is, the fascist.
Really weird how everything liberals accuse leftists of is a projection.
How did we get here? Kamala didnt go on joe rogan thats how.
We got here because our candidate was someone who never won or placed well in a presidential primary.
The corporate interests couldnt risk bernie winning a primary
Bernie was a threat and that’s why he lost. Anyone who wants to help people in society are inherently against the corpse interests that have everyone under lock and key.
Harris was such a bad candidate. Lost 2020, somehow went “I can excuse Biden’s racist policies that hurt me, that I publicly stated in a debate against Biden”, and then just did nothing note worthy as VP.
And then Biden stayed in past the (shit) primaries, went out in his own terms instead of listening to the public. So now Harris has less time to plan and figure out what works.
And then she just ignored what people wanted and gave Republicans answers.
But guess what Arab Americans and black men??!?!!? Get completely and totally fucked by the Trump administration.
lmao scratched liberal moment.
Why not blame whites, both men and women, who actually voted for Trump, despite the dems abandoning their base to appeal to them?
It’s everyone’s fault. We both know it.
Btw i specifically said : anyone not voting for Harris. Including POSSIBLY those demographics
Where I was wrong was with how narrow the result would he. It wasn’t even Gore v Bush levels of close unlike when Lichtman’s 13 keys prediction previously failed. Kamala lost the popular vote to a convicted felon that tried to usurp democracy and is the reason why abortion is no longer a federal right. The Republicans spent the last few weeks crapping on Haitians and Puerto Ricans, yet won some districts with large Latino populations.
This is what happens when Democrats ignore their voter base and choose a cabal of unpopular and uncharismatic candidates to carry the torch. The bar is now so low that we need James Cameron to venture out into the Mariana Trench and lift it back up again…
Is there any chance that shit was rigged this time around? As an outsider it’s honestly just crazy to me that the difference can be so huge, almost unimaginable.
Is there any chance that shit was rigged this time around?
There’s always a chance of almost anything, but it is very slim (conspiracy theory) with no evidence to support it:
“Importantly, we have no evidence of any malicious activity that had a material impact on the security or integrity of our election infrastructure,” per the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Director Jen Easterly.
Source: https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/news/statement-cisa-director-easterly-security-2024-elections
I don’t really think so, I think the Trump campaign is as surprised as the rest of us. Their plan to steal the election hinged on them calling the results into question and contesting the whole thing through the Trump-friendly Supreme Court.
I wonder if any of them are disappointed. They were planning for a coup, but they were given power freely.
Even if it were - what are we gonna do about it? After shitting all over the place with their BS for the past four years, claiming an election is stolen has risen to “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” levels.
There would need to be a 4k video of Trump and cronies detailing exactly how they were going to do it, and every detail would need to be easily verified, and even then I’m not sure it would get enough traction to matter.
Or it goes to show how much of a bubble we have here and how skewed the reporting in other countries is. So far there is absolutely no indication that it would be rigged and frankly the disconnect of the liberal online bubbles es emblematic for the disconnect of the Dem party from the people.
This definitely
We still don’t know what their “little secret” is.
Congratu-fucking-lations
Harris was popular when she first announced. She then proceeded to run to the cold dead embrace of the Biden campaign.
Progressive policy is more popular than any candidate, if they focused on rent control, free healthcare, free childcare, free college and other immediate, material improvements to people’s conditions, they’d have won in a landslide. Instead they abandoned the rest of the country to pursue the <10% of republicans who weren’t in the bag for Trump.
Harris was popular when she first announced.
I don’t think she was popular when first announced, rather the fact that not-Biden was popular.
Absolutely.
I’m convinced that Biden would have won.
I personally believe that this is not Biden’s or Kamala’s fault. It’s the old-school Democrat establishment’s fault. They did Bernie dirty in 2016. And then they did the same to Biden in these elections. Lichtman predicted a Biden win, bad debate performance and all, and the dems fucked it up.
To be transparent, I still believed Lichtman when he said Harris would win. I will never believe in his stuff again, unless he adds new keys or something.
I personally believe that this is not Biden’s or Kamala’s fault. It’s the old-school Democrat establishment’s fault. They did Bernie dirty in 2016. And then they did the same to Biden in these elections.
Yes. Every time, even in 2020 when the mood of the country was very different, they are afraid to run anything other than center-right candidates because they “aren’t electable”. Guess what - your corporatist center-right candidates are consistently priming people to receive the protectionist messages from the fascists, Maybe fucking try something different some time, fucking DNC!
OK, the next question is: How do we convey this to liberals who think we want the dems to lose?
In the words of my boomer mother, “Things aren’t going to get better until the boomers die off.”
It’s probably not even boomers anymore. This community, full of everything from hardcore progressives to literal communists, has gone feral defending Harris’s disaster of a campaign. You couldn’t, and still can’t, call the DNC out for running a horrible candidate with a horrible (nonexistent) platform without being called a troll or a Russian bot. The new generation fell for the two party system hook, line and sinker.
I think y’all just need to come to terms that America is further right than the Democrat party, and the Democratic party moving left is not going to help them.
Huh? Obama won by getting leftist votes so that clearly isn’t true.
What leftist votes and in what numbers?
the Democratic party moving left is not going to help them.
How would we know that? They’ve never tried.
Because there’s no point flirting with the non-existent further left.
California Proposition 33. Repeals ban on local rent controls.
61.6% No · 52% reporting
That’s bizarre, were people confused by the wording? Was there a media blitz by local landlords? More people are renters than landlords so obviously the majority doesn’t want rent to be higher.
There was a massive media campaign against it. Every other political ad on tv was against it .
Progressive policies are popular until billionaires spend millions of dollars convincing people that the world will end if we help poor people a bit.
That’s true, we need a strategy to deal with the media.
The same thing could be observed when even the most right-wing democrats in 2020 were saying we need police reform, and in 2022, they were all talking about a made-up crime wave, or how every election until now, reliable dem voters understood immigration is a net positive for society, but suddenly they’re talking about how Kamala is going to secure the border
Instead they abandoned the rest of the country to pursue the <10% of republicans who weren’t in the bag for Trump.
YES! I held my nose and voted for her, she turned her back on everything that looked like hope and change during her campaign. Her reaction to R looking weak was to jump to the right, somehow.
Having said that, anyone who needed to be wooed to not vote for Trump was a lost cause, but she literally turned away from every sort of policy decision that excites Democrats.
No she didn’t
I think inflation is the biggest part of why Trump won. People wrongly blamed Biden for it. I guess we’ll just have to learn some lessons again.
People learned a lesson the first time?!
Fitting.
Fuck this place.
The unfortunate reality is we choose this. There is no one else to blame but our own complacency.
Nah, fuck this mindset. I’m going to blame everyone who voted for the racist, homophobic rapist.
I’m also blaming propaganda from billionaires and Russia.
As well as the White House. Biden should have stepped down so we could have ran an actual primary.
And the White House sat on Trump’s insurrection for four fucking years.
And the White House sat on Trump’s insurrection for four fucking years.
The system as a whole failed us when it didn’t convict Trump on either impeachment.
You cannot convince me that Republicans wouldn’t have been rabidly screaming from rooftops that a Democratic President should be impeached if one did the same things Trump did while in office. And the sad thing is Democrats would have agreed and impeached him.
Republicans only care about holding on to power. Nothing else anymore.
And we as a nation just handed it to a candidate who wants to be ‘Dictator for a day’ as if any dictator has ever willingly relinquished power.
As someone in a non-traditional relationship, and who has two female children, I am fucking terrified.
I’m scared too. I just started hormone replacement therapy a few months ago, and found self-acceptance for the first time in my life. And also have a child, who’s a very sweet boy that will become a young man with misogynist assholes in power. That’s not the example I want for him.
I’ve been crying this morning. And I’m crying now.
I was planning on starting in the next couple of years myself, once I was financially stable enough to. I don’t know what to tell you or anyone else, but I think we’re dead.
The entire LGBTQ community is dead if we stick out at all.
Yep, yep, continue burying your head in the sand. Surely something will change if you just do the same thing next time.
No we should all spread hatred of Democrats since that was so fucking helpful this time.
Nobody’s advocating for that, but people like you were surely shoving lots of hatred themselves, for what good that did. It’s funny that even after achieving this result, you’re still just doubling down on spreading hate instead of having a bit of self-reflection for once.
I tagged you appropriately long ago. You’re showing you earned it
So you like labelling people rather than know who they are personally? That will surely show people that you treat others that don’t agree 100% with you like a human and that you don’t just sow division everywhere you go.
I like avoiding wasting my time on bad faith discussions with people I abhor
This country deserves what’s coming to it.
This is the result of literally decades of planning from extremist groups on the right to bend America into a fascist theocratic dictatorship. Saying someone deserved to get attacked because the attack was successful might be peak victim-blaming.
No, it just simply doesn’t. Regardless of how many (how fucking depressingly many) people voted for him, how fucked this country is, no one deserves to live through a fascist regime. We don’t want housing just for the good homeless, we don’t think only women who are “responsible” should have access to abortions, we don’t think only Respectable Gays should have marriage rights. In the same vein, we shouldn’t want only the good countries, only the good populations, to be free from tyranny. 70 million votes for that asshat, 70 out of 350. This country doesn’t deserve this, because no one deserves this.
Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you can improve.
You don’t seem to get it. Things will never improve from here.
I tend to agree. But once you hit rock bottom there’s no where else to go except up
No, there’s always genocide and extinction.
Wouldn’t extinction be an up?
The only hope I have is that the Bell riots start soon and we can force change, but damn every time it seems we’ve hit bottom they break out a shiny new drill bit
We hit rock bottom 8 years ago. This is miles under the bedrock.
Disgusting.
We are so fucked. The repercussions of this election are going to effect everything from SCOTUS to county courts. This is so utterly disgusting. People looked at the shit spewing from his mouth and said, “Yes, represent me.”
Fuck this country.
Well, the only thing we can do now is hope it won’t be as bad as we all fear it could be. That and try to come up with a plan in case our worst fears are realized.
I think the rest of the world needs to start isolating the US. The US has too much power and poor leadership. Other countries need to find ways to reduce their exposure to and reliance on the US. I think the best way to do that is for the world to come together and create an independent global reserve currency. As long as the dollar is the world currency, the US will have all the power.
Who should be referred to as “rapist felon” from here on out.
Unable to express my pain, anger and sadness right now…
Harris had a good start, but she never built on it. She stuck to her talking points and Trump will be worse rhetoric. That’s enough for many of us, but the majority need to be swept away by sensation.
She didn’t humanize herself enough, didn’t show the world who she is. She’s a private, guarded person (as much as a high profile politician can be) and a lot of people think that makes her unlikable. Unfortunately presidential candidates need to be well liked to succeed.
Well now a whole lot of people get to know what the end of Rome felt like.
Lame.
Now, since bOtH SiDeS aRe ThE sAmE, watch as Democrats file 600 lawsuits and scream about election fraud for 4 years, never once acknowledging the fact that there’s been no evidence of any /s
Well good for him.
I hate this timeline
THIS is the bad place!
Looks like Trump is going to touch us all in the bad place.
Hopefully Chidi and Eleanor will save us all soon.
Even Jason figured this one out.
I thought we escaped the worst timeline where Trump won in 2020, but it seems we never left it. This is even worse… packed SC from the start, granted complete immunity right from the get-go…
My only solace is that people endure far worse and manage to find some level of happiness. So just gotta endure and take care of each other and our own and keep searching for daylight
If there’s any silver lining a meteor might hit us and put us out of our misery before we have to worry about wet bulb temperatures
There’s a good chance for another major pandemic, and we’re passing the global warming point of no return.
For better or worse, the US was the biggest player on the planet; now that we’ve fumbled, I think the world is done for. Maybe China could have risen to take the US’s place, but they’re stumbling toward an economic catastrophe, India has their own problems, and Russia is exposed as a bit player. The EU could have been a shining beacon, but they’re struggling with their own rise in fascism. Who else is there? A South American country? They’re barely holding on to their own economies. Canada? Too small - I mean, big country, but not very big population (1/10th of the US). And the US is big enough that when we go down, we’re going to drag a lot of the planet with us. Shit, thanks to Russia and Israel, we’ve been edging into WWIII. Trump’s senile enough to press the button, I have no doubt, and he’ll be completely surrounded by moronic Yes-men this time, with no one to try to talk sense into him. Maybe a relatively quick, fiery end would be better than a painful spiral.
We’re done as a planet. Some creatures will survive, but humans have used up all the readily available low-tech surface resources - oils, coals, metals - so anything that evolves intelligence after us won’t make it past the stone age. And then, the sun will die.
At least we have more solid evidence to the answer to Fermi’s paradox. It’d be a bigger question if we weren’t rushing toward our own extinction.
I’d thought the Great Filter would be a more formidable event than a reality TV host
Oh, man. That’d be a book. Or maybe a chapter in an alternate version of Hitchhiker’s.
It always turns out to be the equivalent of a reality show host.
Count us out. Canada has our own Trump wannabe lined up. He’s been like 20-30 points ahead and we’re no where close to election time.
Ontario the biggest province stayed home and didn’t bother to vote out the conservative premiere who has been fucking shit up. They all stayed home and handed him another majority. In a year or so we will elect our analog of Trump. Make no mistake he’s stocked the party full of MAGA and Proud Boys. I’m not being dramatic. It’s literally what it is. Within 4 years Canada will be openly aligned with Trump.
Yeah, I kinda figured when the truck convoy started out there you guys had your own problems.
And it hates us ❤️
Fuck conservatives always and forever.
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