The Post reports today that the IRS’ internal projections estimate that the...
          • That Annoying Vegan@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            11·
            21 hours ago

            truly disgusting. I saw an article that fElon and Drumpf are taking away payments that orphans get because they have no parents. Meanwhile, half a trillion is probably being redistributed to fElon and drumpf.

            • frostysauce@lemmy.world
              1·
              15 hours ago

              You didn’t see an article, you saw a screenshot of a tweet. As far as I can tell that was a lie. We should not be spreading lies when there are enough true horrible things they have done we could be talking about.

              Unless I’m wrong and you’re the one person on Lemmy that actually saw an article supporting that claim. I’d like to be wrong, if I am could you please link the article?

      • Optional@lemmy.world
        41·
        1 day ago

        I think it’s the opposite. We’re all used to “a billion” now, even thought we can’t really concieve of it the way we can, say $100. But a trillion is just space money. Just make it a gazillion.

        500 Billion has real competitive traction - people are billionaires, this is more than them, etc. A trillion is something you have nanoparticles of, something very small.

        • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
          8·
          1 day ago

          “Billion”, sadly, is a term that nowadays conjures an individual human or corporate level figure.

          “Trillion” is an economy level figure and suitably conjures an idea of how fucked up you all are.

          IMHO.

          • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
            2·
            1 day ago

            yup. especially we like our ancestors for quite some time back have only dealt in thousands back when the richest dealt in millions.

      • Nightwatch Admin@feddit.nl
        5·
        1 day ago

        Be that as it may, it’s a significant amount of money that will not be collected but will now trickle down… excuse me, I have a very hard time keeping a straight face hahaha

      • adarza@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        it’s the direction the figure is no-doubt going. in six weeks, that estimate will be a lot higher.

        ‘half a trillion’ now is a very fair choice of wording.

      • Optional@lemmy.world
        1026·
        1 day ago

        No, “half” sounds like half. 500 of something sounds like more than half of something. (Yes, trillion > billion, we’re not debating the actual facts - which are the same either way - just the way it’s perceived in a headline)

        Half of dinners. 500 meals. Half a car. 500 auto parts. Half of all dealerships. 500 independent dealers. etc.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    241·
    11 hours ago

    IN A MONTH.

    4 years of months left to go.

    Maybe next time people can get off their fat fucking asses and vote. Or, if you did vote, maybe vote more intelligently next go around.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
    24·
    14 hours ago

    He also lost nearly a trillion dollars for Tesla. Tells the Tesla employees to keep their stock, hinting at how great things are and how much better they will be soon, and then the entire c-suite sells off around a hundred million in stock…

    Elmo really is the best of all humans… At evaporating the wealth of others

    I’ve said this for nearly s decade now, Elmo is a lyoni scammer who got lucky, that is all

    • Soup@lemmy.world
      8·
      13 hours ago

      “He got lucky” is another way to also say that, as terrible as he is at everything he does, including hiding it, the people who give him literally anything are always clamouring to prove just how stupid they can be by simping for him at every turn.

  • Pax@lemmy.caEnglish
    13·
    11 hours ago

    Correction - they efficiently lost half a trillion dollars for the USA

  • doug@lemmy.todayEnglish
    33·
    1 day ago

    Ok, fine, libertarians, you won. I don’t have to pay my taxes now, right?

    • lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.world
      25·
      1 day ago

      Thats the fun thing with fascist governments, before you’d get a fine and asked to pay back on a payment plan, and maaaybe get jail time if you reaally went out of your way to not pay your taxes year after year.

      Now they can just come get ya in the middle of the night and throw you in jail for any number of reasons, not paying your taxes, being one of them. Oh and then maybe get deported because they took your ID’s and passport and when your family members throw a stink and demand you released because you’re a born and raised US citizen, oops, they can’t find you in the system.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
    981·
    1 day ago

    So now DOGE has removed all these costs, will Americans not have to pay any taxes anymore? That’s the conservative claim right? That taxes paid for all this stuff and Liberals were taxing everyone super high for it…

    …so now taxes drop to zero for EVERYONE? Right?

      • adarza@lemmy.caEnglish
        21·
        1 day ago

        oh, they’ll still have to raise taxes on the lower half of earners, strip essential services bare–if they continue to exist at all, and pile on trillions to the national debt for that.

        adding debt is ‘free money’ to them. not like they gotta pay it back…

        • mean_bean279@lemmy.worldEnglish
          16·
          1 day ago

          I enjoyed the “we gotta lower the national debt for our kids” which quickly converted into “we gotta raise the national debt and we’re going to go into more debt” all in the same month.

      • jj4211@lemmy.world
        8·
        15 hours ago

        Only for those willing to risk violating tax law, and by extension mostly people who feel like they can afford enough accountant and lawyer time to evade consequences if they come.

        IRS also publicly said they would only be doing easy enforcement, i.e. only doing audits on lower income people who can’t drag it out and make it expensive.

        So basically giving a green light for the rich and only the rich to keep the money they owe…

    • Zachariah@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 day ago

      I like taxes like I like my Costco membership. I get a better deal if I go in with others and buy in bulk. Even if I don’t use all the same goods and services as others.

      Getting rid of corruption and grifters siphoning value out of a system is a much better goal than “saving money”

      • SnausagesinaBlanket@lemmy.world
        81·
        1 day ago

        “They” are also pushing for a cashless society. Having an RFID chip in your hand will get you all your necessities and non participation won’t. Mark my words. If someone told me this a few years ago I would have laughed.

          • Clasm@ttrpg.network
            7·
            15 hours ago

            That’s what happens when you have a suicidal death cult trying their damnedest to bring about their version of the end of the world.

          • arrow74@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            13 hours ago

            Seriously where are all the conservative Christians that were so afraid of barcodes. These guys have turned revelations into a check list, but it’s okay because he’s “your” guy?

            • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              3·
              11 hours ago

              The conservative Christians I still talk to (that number is getting lower and lower each year) believe Trump is the third coming of Christ and that he cannot do any wrong.

              These people are smart in many other ways except in this area.

              They believe it’s an over reaction. That it’s overblown. It’s fake news.

            • y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              2·
              2 hours ago

              That’s kind of how the antichrist works. He fools most people into believing he’s a good guy

  • yarr@feddit.nlEnglish
    21·
    11 hours ago

    Folks, let me tell you, I just read the most fantastic article about the IRS and the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). And I’ve got to say, it’s a total win-win. Believe me.

    So, this so-called “report” from The Washington Post says that the IRS is expecting a huge loss in tax receipts due to the DOGE disruptions. But let me tell you, folks, that’s just fake news. It’s a total disaster. And I’m not talking about the fact that the report is based on data and trends. No way.

    I mean, think about it. The Department of Government Efficiency is a great name for an organization, by the way. So good. But what they’re doing is amazing. They’re shaking things up, folks. They’re making government more efficient. And that’s exactly what we need.

    Now, I know some of the fake news media outlets are saying, “Oh, the IRS is losing billions in tax receipts.” But let me tell you, folks, that’s just a bunch of losers talking. The real winners here are the American people. We’re going to save so much money by having fewer bureaucrats and less waste in government.

    And let’s be honest, folks. $500 billion is not even a significant loss when you think about it. I mean, what did we spend on our military last year? A tiny fraction of that. So, if the IRS is losing half a trillion dollars, that just means we’re saving the other half. It’s all part of the Trump magic.

    And by the way, folks, have you seen the new White House logo? It’s tremendous. The best. And I think it’s going to be huge for our government’s branding efforts. Just huge.

    So, let’s not focus on the fake news about the IRS and DOGE. Let’s focus on the real winners here: us, the American people. We’re going to come out of this recession in record time, believe me. And it’s all thanks to the Department of Government Efficiency and my amazing leadership.