I know that security is a bit of a show and its really more of a deterant, but I was wondering realistically how we could prevent someone breaking and entering a small-ish American home?

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    7 days ago

    Lesson from South Africa: by the time they are at your door it’s too late. Perimeter fencing, preferably a 2m high wall with razor wire AND electric fence on top (including on gate). Garden: floodlights, motion sensing alarms, beams, AI cameras. All doors and windows: bars and security gates. Inside: separate living and sleeping area with lockable gate in the hall between. Panic buttons…

    None of that is going to stop a legal intrusion, each just buys you time before the paid security company arrive with guns to chase away intruders. Given time, any determined attacker will get in eventually…

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      My cousin had a beagle ridgeback mix (accidental breeding incident).

      His neighbours from two doors down showed him security footage of burglars jumping back over the wall when they heard it barking! 😂

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      How big does that perimeter have to be for the lesson to apply? In ZA I know they do whole gated communities, but we’re talking about a single house.

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    As a locksmith, I can tell you what I tell my paranoid customers. Buying the greatest lock in the world doesn’t do shit if you still have first floor windows.

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      I always thought that was funny. Same with cheap, stick-built apartments with only the wood studs and two layers of drywall between them, the hallway, and other units, but tenants massively fortifying only the door.

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        I always wondered why we don’t read about more robberies like that. In a stick built home, the wall is a weak point. With a modern battery powered reciprocating saw, it would take less than a minute

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          I’ve heard of that happening in context of thieves breaking into stores. Never heard of it used for home robbery

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      I had my windows replaced … Last year, I think? That detail doesn’t really matter.

      I always knew that normal windows negate any attempt at security, but it was still unnerving to visually confirm that they are easily removed, fragile barriers filling what are just holes in my wall.

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    Build a moat.

    It’s not impenetrable, but let’s be honest, who’s crazy enough to break into the house with a moat?

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      Own a musket for home defense, since that’s what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. “What the devil?” As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he’s dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it’s smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, “Tally ho lads” the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.

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        Don’t forget about your French neighbors who have been looking to get one over on those ruffians.

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    7 days ago

    Who is your enemy?

    If it is just some random burglar, create some fear with triple locks and cameras and you are good.

    If it is a government operation, you better leave the country before they even start looking for you.

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    If you asking how you secure your residence against ICE…good luck with that. They have legal access to an expansion of the Patriot Act for warrants, and they have toys they’d love to use against any home security. All that physical security is going to do is give them probable cause.

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    The ONLY way to stop someone who really really really wants into your house from entering your house. Is to not have a house.

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    Layers.

    Plant something with thorns or pointy leaves to block easy access to windows. Even better as a hedge around the whole property. Anti break film on windows. Heavy duty exterior doors. Motion sensing lights. Cameras, +1 for cameras with built in lights that can recognize people and automatically turn on.

    Every layer should either strengthen, increase risk of being caught, or make access painful. They will go towards easier targets.

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      My eufy cameras have an alarm built into them too along with the home base. So at night if they detect motion they will alarm, record and send a notification to my phone.

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      Any windows you want to restrict access to, plant these things:

      Pyracantha

      They are no joke. Just remember, if you need that window for emergency egress it will not be a pleasant experience. Probably better than dying, but not by much.

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    Not really much, tbh.

    Decent quality door locks
    Clear line of sight from the street to likely entry points
    Loud alarms so if they do break in they’re not likely to stay long

    If someone wants to get into a house, there isn’t much you can do to stop them unless you’re rich and can afford exotic shit like bullet proof glass windows and thick metal reinforced doors.
    All to can really do is discourage crimes of opportunity by making them seem like bad opportunities.

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    Having two locks including a proper deadbolt with a decent type of key. You want a deadbolt that goes deep into the door frame, not a cheap one that barely hits the strike plate. That and locking windows with window film will keep most people out.

    Nothing will keep someone out who really wants to get in. You just need to make the hassle greater than their desire to get in.

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      I think peacocks might be louder but vocalize less frequently. That means you’d have to live with peacocks, though. They’re awful. You can hear their loudest cries up to a couple of kilometres away.

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        oh hell no they don’t make good guard birds. geese are good guard birds they honk for honks sake. peacocks try to make love to the chrome on your car. there’s always the one rich dude in town who thinks he’s rich enough to tame peafowl and suddenly your town is overrun with cock.

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            it’s not about protecting your car. your car’s a piece of shit smart car, stupid brother in law. no one is going to steal that anyways. it’s about protecting the single rock on your property that you decided to place there. the plastic rock. the hollow plastic rock with a little slot on the bottom for a key. with your front door key in it. If they’re distracted trying to fuck your car, who’s going to protect the rock? You either need geese or sheep. Maybe meese.

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          Some person has them in the wealthy neighbourhood and their peacocks/peafowl flew away.
          One came to our office balcony (about 20m high) for a visit. :D
          Was also in the local newspaper.

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      That doesn’t prevent breaking and entering. It deals with someone who has already done so.

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          No, then the post would be “how do I deal with someone who has forcibly entered my home?”

          The answer to this post would be strong fencing, doors, and windows and any other entry points to the home.

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            We don’t have to argue about the intent of the title my friend, OP provided a link in the body that makes it very clear the context of their question.

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              You’re suggesting that OP shotgun ICE agents? You think that is going to go well for them when a lady was just shot in the face for tapping one with her car?

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                I’m suggesting that when a fascist kill squad breaks into your home that you are both legally and morally justified to defend yourself.

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                  I agree with you, but if it gets to that point OP is dead. He might get one or two of them but they definitely are not going to de-escalate if he shoots at them. Which is why a better suggestion would be to reinforce your home so that it is difficult enough for them to enter that they move on to a softer target.

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      Shotgun. Single best thing you can have.

      Just make sure to stand guard at the front of your home all night every night with your shotgun so that anyone considering breaking and entering knows that you have a shotgun.