Did… did I just slide to a parallel universe? Do I get to meet Jerry O’Connell? What the hell is going on?!
What the fuck is going on?
edit: this question was not literal
Right?
I’ve checked for the Azure Gate Bridge and whether green lights mean go, and so far I don’t think we Slid anywhere but keep your eyes peeled.
Can we rule out some kind of transporter accident? Has anyone checked to see if his beard comes off?
It’s another grift
Lenin watches Danton and decided his big losing moment was preaching reason to revolutionaries, losing his head in the process.
He studies hard the play book, decides to push hard with the revolutionaries and upends the Tsar and half the world.
100 years later Banon watches Lenin…
Its criminal what we call history in the States.
It’s the fiscally liberal but socially conservative strategy. Produce a coalition of christofascists, conservative leaning unions, religious minded immigrants, the subset of naturalized immigrants who want to pull the ladder up behind them, socially conservative elites, and low SES voters.
And he’s right, that combination is a powerhouse of voters that would give them the south, the mountain west and most of the midwest. It leaves out a class that could easily be pigeonholed as “elites” in the big cities on the coasts - and would align our political structure more like Turkey or India’s.
In other words, DT peeled off a layer of disenfranchized democratic voters that were ripe for the taking, Bannon wants to build a strategy that keeps them.
Fucking DNC gave them this opportunity
They might seem like they work together, but there are different grifters with slightly different goals. Banon wants to bring fascism back.
"This is a 1932-type realignment, if we do this right,” Bannon explained. “Look at the demographics that got us here – black, Hispanic, white, working class, all of it. If we deliver for these people, and I mean deliver in a big way economically, then this is a coalition that could last for 50 years.”
He added that loyalty to “crony capitalism” and “tax breaks for the corporations” could “squander” a unique moment in history.
Making the economy better is how Hitler got into power too. The irony in saying this could be a 1932 style realignment is not lost on me. Trump has also said he wants to go after his political opponents and put them in prison. Also something Hitler did.
Thank you, this is the real lesson to take away from this, not some bass-ackwards universe shift again.
Edit: Stray thought about this again, this is why right wing populism is both effective at getting elected and devastating on countries as it shifts to fascism. Appeal to the masses while conspiring to retain power and increase wealth accumulation at the top.
He’s talking about FDR not Hitler.
One would like to think so. The problem is that imagining a right-wing Republican willing to jackboot some motherfuckers is easy; imagining one who wants to out-FDR FDR? Come on.
FDR wasn’t the champion of civil rights but he did fix the primary economic problems of the US during the depression. I personally don’t trust Bannon either but he’s clearly comparing to FDR not Hitler.
They despise FDR. Despise is too kind of a word for how they feel about FDR. That makes zero sense.
Yeah, really. I mean, there was an entire plot to assassinate FDR called the Business Plot and they counted on literally a retired general to help them pull it off, who they were going to install as a dictator. A year later the general testified against his fellow conspirators before a House committee. Nobody was actually prosecuted (huge mistake, IMO), but the final report said, “there is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient.”
Bannon is from a catholic Irish family, his parents absolutely admired JFK. The whole reason why Bannon founded Breitbart was to propagandize an alternative right (alt right) to the elitist GOP. This does add up for him personally. Would Trump’s party do any of this though? Of course not.
He’s definitely talking about Hitler. He might have FDR in mind for reasons of plausible deniability.
The FDR paradigm lasted 50 years until Reagan. The Hitler comparison doesn’t make sense in context given that it wasn’t a coalition in the way Bannin describes and didn’t last that long. Whereas the FDR coalition encompassed Northern liberals and Southern conservatives and controlled congress from 1932 to the 1994 mid term elections.
https://www.newsweek.com/bannon-thought-thats-hitler-when-trump-rode-golden-escalator-author-1677386
Like a lot of fascists, he tends to be dishonest about what he really means depending on what he thinks he can get away with, but he means Hitler.
None of this matters. Bannon is still useful to the media when they want a headline but he doesn’t have enough influence with Trump to actually action anything like this anyways. Trump’s cabinet is nothing but billionaires lol.
To expand on this for the unaware: Hitler came back into power for his second term in 1932. His first term, similar to trumps, was rife with turmoil and political/administrative blunders. One of the first things he did, upon returning to power, was a German version of The New Deal. They massively invested in their country’s infrastructure and provided tens of millions of jobs for the young working class, who had been suffering the worst unemployment crisis in an age. For the first time in their lives, young Germans had good jobs (with great benefits) and were contributing towards building a better, cleaner, safer Germany, all facilitated by “the national socialist party”. This was the part of nazi history that actually included socialism, and it’s how the nazi party duped an entire generation into becoming their foot soldiers. They actually delivered substantive, positive change for the people, allowed people to get comfortable with the new status quo while they further built propaganda machines, then turned that status quo into a carrot on a stick. Young nazi’s were very fearful of a backslide, so when nazi propaganda started saying all these bad people were trying to take away their newfound financial freedom, it was very easy to convince these young, relatively ignorant, working class people to “defend” the country they proudly built with their own hands.
If the GOP did a 180° on all of their economic policy, of the last 60+ years, to follow a similar story arc, I would be extremely concerned. With how down-trodden our 3 youngest generations are, the conditions for an American copy of nazi Germany couldn’t be more perfect than they are right now.
I’m not a historian. I just read a book on this subject recently. Feel free to correct or add to anything I got wrong/missed!
I’d be interested to hear which book this was!
If you appreciate books on history and this history specifically, check out what came right before it: Takeover: HITLER’S FINAL RISE TO POWER. It’s about the final six months before Hitler got there. It was surprising to me how much of an accident of history his reign was when I’d long thought it had been inevitable.
Thank you, I’ll have to check it out!
Well, it started with Victor Frankl’s Man’s Search For Meaning, which is more about what happened after the coup, until nazi’s downfall. Then, I read parts of The Third Reich by Thomas Childers, which prompted a documentary watch and I haven’t gone much further than that. But both of those books are amazing and very informative. I can try to find that documentary too, if you’re interested.
I’m interested
The difference being that the Nazis were often competent people, and there was not the same massive base of crony capitalism with its fingers firmly enmeshed around every single area of government like there is in the US currently.
I won’t say it’s impossible, and I think they might be able to leverage social media to construct the exact same mass movement of loyal followers with the exact same horrifying results, but I don’t think the type of economic populism that did it for the Reich is feasible for the MAGA people to pull off. Definitely not with Trump at the helm.
Nazi leadership was not competent.
I mean, they took over the country and then more than half of Europe. Hitler fought in the infantry and wrote a whole book. I’m not saying they were geniuses and some parts were a pure clown show, especially after Hitler took over for real, but Trump literally just shuffles around shitting in his pants and doing whatever the last person who talked to him convinced him is a good idea.
If they flipped on their last 60 years of policy though… I’d be much happier with the status quo though. A new new deal and a thriving economy that helps the working class would be great. It would give far fewer issues that we need to address at once. Shit, if you got them flipped, since Republicans tend to fall in line they’ll take it as a win and celebrate it as they believed he would be good the entire time ignoring all of his policies changing. And it lands the Republicans left of the Democrats. Meaning when the Democrats lean towards the pubs to get voters … they’ll be moving left as well. If we somehow got healthcare and fair wages and taxation better through this… Then we only have to focus on ensuring they don’t subjugate populations like minorities, and get policing under control which all would be easier with a thriving economy and workforce. Less people are scared when more people are doing well. Whether someone is racist or not, the stereotypes become harder to push on people. A few other huge things like climate change, but with high taxes on the rich pushes companies to invest their money into their companies to avoid paying those taxes which in turn will churn out good things. (Either more quality, efficiency, research and expansion). Maybe we could finally catch up on battery tech and secure our own energy sources and grid for the future. That would be a great way to put America to work. Building an upgraded grid with storage and modularity for natural disasters.
Don’t get my hopes up on this shit just to
While I generally agree, I would still be extremely skeptical of those changes coming from the people that have spent the last 60 years sliding us into a situation were we desperately need those changes. If that was the play, I would see it as a decades long scam with the intent being to purchase legitimacy with a lie. The logical conclusion being they want absolute power and see a working strategy to obtain that by following in the nazi’s footsteps, with some modern revisions.
Skeptical is understandable. But we can use some wins man… if the winds blowing in the right direction better to veer the ship in the right direction than try to go agaisnt it while hurting and tiring ourselves out in the process.
And just like that, Steve Bannon learned about all the structures of liberal democracy that have thus far been stopping crony capitalism from squishing him like a worm on the sidewalk.
There’s a reason he isn’t hosting his little podcast in Russia or Algeria. He’s not 1% of strong enough to survive without the cushy protection afforded to white men in America who are broadly aligned with the rich people.
He’s talking about California and New York. You know, kind of like they did when Trump was president last time.
Bannon is an anger salesmen. Anger salesmen don’t sell you somene else’s anger, though – they can’t. Instead, they package up your own anger, and sell it back to you.
Bannon sees the the reaction people are habing to CEOs right now, slapping a big ol’ bow on it, and selling it back to people.
i love that shiteating grin on his face underneath this headline
He’s just talking nonsense though. There is zero chance Trump will tax the billionaires overall. They paid him off, they own him.
But possibly of he’s feeling particularly pesky, he might target people he doesn’t like and target only them and pretend he did something meritorious.
Absolutely correct. Trump already told them if they help get him re-elected, he’ll cut their taxes.
And when has Trump ever kept his promises?
He will keep this one because in his mind it is a huge benefit to him. He’s always hated the idea of having to pay any taxes at all.
You can increase the taxes. The hard part is making them pay it
I’ll tell you wants going on. He is saying the quiet part out loud.
He is admitting that conservatives have always known what would make the country better but refused to admit it, instead have always played “dumb” by claiming their free market and deregulation approach is what they honestly believe is best for the country.
I might be reading too much into it but imo this shows that decades of democrats playing fair and true to the process is why we got here. Because selfish people realized that they can take advantage of the benefit of the doubt and just ruin the government while pretending they don’t know any better.
Pretty evil, more than I actually expected from him tbh.
But what does President Musk think about raising taxes on the rich?
I fully can see him being the type that makes an exception for himself and totally screws over his billionaire peers.
He doesn’t look like someone that would get along with his peers.
Our taxes should be paid directly to Musk instead of going through the government.
Given the basic implausibility of the horseshoe theory, why do so many centrist commentators insist on perpetuating it? The likely answer is that it allows those in the centre to discredit the left while disavowing their own complicity with the far right. Historically, it has been “centrist” liberals – in Spain, Chile, Brazil, and in many other countries – who have helped the far right to power, usually because they would rather have had a fascist in power than a socialist.
Today’s fascists have also been facilitated by centrists
Same place happens to have a much newer article that concludes much the same.
Horseshoe models should be scrutinised for what they put in and what they choose to leave out. They emphasise values such as individualism, free markets and moderate policies, but register few of the social inequalities, exploitation and structural violence that often accompany them.
So while the left–right spectrum isn’t perfect, bending it into a horseshoe doesn’t do much to explain the strange political bedfellows of our times.
Well maybe the theory’s wielders are wrong, but I still buy the basic premise.
The extreme left and right are slowly gravitating towards similar conclusions about who thier real enemies are… basically, billionares.
He knows exactly what he’s doing. It’s multiple groups of shitheads using each other to gain power, not just one big group of elites who are all trustworthy buddies.
My guess is that Musk will need to buy a merc army before he’s able to establish his own nation in space. Might already have one.
There’s a reason he’s been having Tesla divert more resources to their Optimus robots. The man intends to have a machine army that he could use in a coup. We play our cards right and get behind cloning research, we could have a Grand Clone Army. 200,000 units now, with a million more well on the way. Begun, the Clone Wars have.
At least then we’d finally live in a cool dystopian future.
Or maybe, just maybe, you don’t know as much about others as you thought you did.
Bannon literally compared this to the time period of the Nazis coming to power.
Glug glug glug
Lol the guy says one thing I agree with and I’m supposed to throw out everything else I know about him. Get real.
No dude we all have a pretty fucking good idea who Steve Bannin is at this point. He’s a morally bankrupt opportunist, grifter, and bigot. Got anything else to add?
He’s also a Dominionist that wants to rule the world and bring about the apocalypse.
The list goes on!
Lol, this is one the most entertaining news video I’ve seen in awhile from 2020 (foxnews on youtube warning). He had a confederate flying yacht, what’s not to guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boMfSUUD1Bk
That dude wants to control the millionaires so he’s warning them.
This is a 1932-type realignment, if we do this right
Guys, he’s not talking about the re-alignment in America in 1932…
